Series Thread: ECF: Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavs

[GNG]

They have potential down the road maybe.. Point is they aren't superstars now. Celtics don't have one present great player on the court.

They are very well balanced and don't need a marquee player.

 

[GNG]

Guarantee you the Celtics will get smacked around and swept if they reach the finals

You are going to guarantee the Celtics would get swept if they reach the finals? Are you clairvoyant?

 

[tlance]

They are very well balanced and don't need a marquee player.

Yes they do.

They can't beat the Warriors without a superstar. That is the level they should be striving for.

 

[GNG]

They can't beat the Warriors without a superstar.

They can't or you just believe they can't?

 

[msgkings322]

The stats don't lie. LeBron right now has more TO's (7) than FG's made (5). Which means he'll probably be pissed off & have a big game 2. Be ready Boston.

Like game 6 2012 level in Boston perhaps

 

[msgkings322]

Yes they do.

They can't beat the Warriors without a superstar. That is the level they should be striving for.

Well, look how good they are now, defense, coaching. Now add an elite scorer like Irving and a legit All-star like Hayward. That's a team that is probably as good as GS

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

He wanted to play with a star instead of a rookie. Love was the guy on the market. That doesn't mean he was handpicked. The issues LeBron and Love have had over the years should be proof of that. If LeBron could have handpicked a running mate to trade Wiggins for, I can guarantee you it would not have been Kevin Love. Again, it was Love or Wiggins. That does not mean Love was "handpicked", which implies LeBron had more options. He didn't.

Smith was a reclamation project given away by the Knicks. The buyout players? Seriously? You mean the guys cut by the tanking teams?

Yes, he helped his teammates who helped him get a ring in Cleveland get overpaid. My opinion is that was more to get back at Dan Gilbert than it was about building the best possible roster.

When LeBron leaves 1 year after Kyrie, the organization will in shambles and still have a few bad contracts.

This was not a handpicked roster at all. It was LeBron trying to help his friends and punish Gilbert at the same time. Do you really think LeBron would hand pick these guys if he could play with anybody?

Its not a fantasy draft.
Its not a pick up game, like the all star game.
From the pool of available players, yes, he pretty much handpicked them.

I agree he wants to leave Gilbert in shambles, but I also think he thought he could win more titles while doing so.

He was blindsided by Durant and he got out superteamed.

 

[trojanfan12]

He's no Lavar Ball. Which is a plus.

Since when?

 

[trojanfan12]

Let me try to do my bestest wiggy impression. First I have to slam my head in the car door so I don't think properly. Be right back, gotta run out to the garage.


Okay here we go. LeBron has 3 rings, Morris has none. LeBron has MVP's. Morris has nothing. Tristan > Whiteside. LeBron has gone to 7 straight Finals. What has Morris done? Someone lost their fastball. Dan Gilbert. Just wait until Love bounces back from this game. JR & Kover kill be knockin' down 3's in game 2. Final score Cleveland- 144 / Boston- 93.

This must be the Readers Digest version.

Oh, and you forgot Lonzo Ball's shooting percentage.

 

[trojanfan12]

Is game 2 a must win for Cavs?

I wouldn't say must win. But it's really going to put some pressure on them if they don't.

Losing, especially if they get blown out again, will help Boston's confidence and could cause some of the Cavs to question themselves.

But, end of the day, all Boston will have accomplished is holding serve. If the Cavs do the same on their home court, I'd still bet on them to win the series.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Well, look how good they are now, defense, coaching. Now add an elite scorer like Irving and a legit All-star like Hayward. That's a team that is probably as good as GS

If they had Hayward and Irving, I think they would roll over and past Cleveland without a big problem and would have a decent chance facing the Warriors. Fortunately for the Warriors - they don't have Hayward and Irving and yet they still have a good chance rolling Cleveland over, but the series is a long ways from being over and doing what they did tonight is no small task for Boston

 

[msgkings322]

So I'm not looking through this whole thread, I'm guessing not a word from @WiggyRuss ?

He's a weird fan for sure.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

So I'm not looking through this whole thread, I'm guessing not a word from @WiggyRuss ?

He's a weird fan for sure.

He came on a few hours after the game for this beauty:

I just came back to 30....yes 30

I can confidently say that no one else would ever have so much.... i really should get a share of this place. lol

Not a good start. I predicted Boston would win game 1 but i am surprised it was in that fashion. LeBron was his typical Game 1 self this post-season- out of rhyhtm and not aggressive. I thought Love played decent, and TT obviously deserves more PT in this series, but not a whole lot of other positives here.

They need a split in Boston and get one more chance at it.

He was more concerned about the people tagging him in posts than he was on the game.

 

[msgkings322]

He came on a few hours after the game for this beauty:



He was more concerned about the people tagging him in posts than he was on the game.

Thanks. Not an unreasonable take on his part, both regarding the game and the board obsession with him. He's a very good troll, we all wanna take shots.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Thanks. Not an unreasonable take on his part, both regarding the game and the board obsession with him. He's a very good troll, we all wanna take shots.

He's not a troll. He genuinely believes he's right.

 

[msgkings322]

He's not a troll. He genuinely believes he's right.

Well, he does it in a trolly way though. All the repetition, the attempts to get fans of other teams worried about their situations, etc. He's a homer, a fan, he talks shit like the rest of us. And we are obsessed with him.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Well, he does it in a trolly way though. All the repetition, the attempts to get fans of other teams worried about their situations, etc. He's a homer, a fan, he talks shit like the rest of us. And we are obsessed with him.

Hardly an obsession. It's intervals of 3 minutes of fun when I wait for my hot pocket to heat up or the A/C to cool the car down

 

[msgkings322]

Hardly an obsession. It's intervals of 3 minutes of fun when I wait for my hot pocket to heat up or the A/C to cool the car down

LOL sure this is all fun and games, I guess I meant obsessed in the context of the Hoop.

 

[tlance]

Well, look how good they are now, defense, coaching. Now add an elite scorer like Irving and a legit All-star like Hayward. That's a team that is probably as good as GS

Are they?

How much better does Irving actually make them?

I was talking to a friend a little bit ago who is a Celtics fan. I asked him how much better he thought they were with Kyrie. He said he didn't think they played as well together when Kyrie was out there. What they are doing now makes all the early season Kyrie MVP talks seem pretty comical. They have now won 9 playoff games without their "best player".

Are we sure Kyrie is their best player? Are we sure Rozier's game doesn't fit better with the guys they have? I am not saying Rozier is a better player. He isn't. But how much better are the Celtics really going to be with Irving and Hayward out there?

They will have more depth to be sure, but they are replacing really good players with really good players.

 

[tlance]

Its not a fantasy draft.
Its not a pick up game, like the all star game.
From the pool of available players, yes, he pretty much handpicked them.

I agree he wants to leave Gilbert in shambles, but I also think he thought he could win more titles while doing so.

He was blindsided by Durant and he got out superteamed.

The term "handpicked" implies that he had a variety of options though in terms of players he brought in. He didn't. I really dislike that term because it is used by haters to discredit his accomplishments as a player. That is the only reason to bring it up. And, IMO is not even an accurate depiction of what happened.

LeBron chose Cleveland 4 years ago because it gave him a chance to win and it was his hometown. But, let's be very clear about this. It was not his BEST, easiest path to a title. So the notion that he handpicked his team and his teammates just doesn't sit right with me.

LeBron chose Cleveland because he believed he could work with what they had. But there were better options available. There is a 0% chance he would have chosen the Cav roster 4 years ago if it was in say, Detroit.