Series Thread: First Round: Columbus Blue Jackets vs. Washington Capitals

[elocomotive]

Sigh... If I had a dollar for every time we played the better game in the playoffs and lost. Ridiculous.

Congrats, Blue Jackets.

 

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Panarin is nothing without Kane.

 

[sbb122]

That was incredible. Made it look so easy.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

MOAR FAKE NEWS IN DC!

 

[BottleWalk]

Sigh... If I had a dollar for every time we played the better game in the playoffs and lost. Ridiculous.

Congrats, Blue Jackets.

In even strength the Blue Jackets are and were the better team for most of the game and they deserved to win. They have a serious nhl coach, the better roster from top to bottom, and no baggage.

The series is probably going six or seven and there's a lot left to happen, but the winner doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell against the yinzer ice birds.

If the jackets are a little more disciplined coming out of the gate in the games to come, however, they could take a multi-game lead very easily. I wouldn't be surprised at that.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

Breadman delivers

 

[gob]

So beautiful

 

[Kevin12773]

Ahhhh another April night and another loss....

Congrats Jackets onto game 2

 

[elocomotive]

In even strength the Blue Jackets are and were the better team for most of the game and they deserved to win. .

Did you watch the first half of the game?

We had way more shots and scoring chances over the first 40 minutes and controlled most of the play save about a 10-minute stretch in the 2nd. And I'm including 5v5. The 1st period alone the Jackets had almost no scoring chances. Just no killer instinct and urgency once up 2 goals.

 

[gob]

Did you watch the first half of the game?

We had way more shots and scoring chances over the first 40 minutes and controlled most of the play save about a 10-minute stretch in the 2nd. And I'm including 5v5. The 1st period alone the Jackets had almost no scoring chances. Just no killer instinct and urgency once up 2 goals.

No killer instinct while down 2-0 with half a major to go? Shocking.

I could be a homer, but I thought we outplayed you guys even strength. The problem was we were down a man about a fifth (which I thought I might have to drink after the first period) of the game.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

“Someone” lol

 

[BottleWalk]

Did you watch the first half of the game?

We had way more shots and scoring chances over the first 40 minutes and controlled most of the play save about a 10-minute stretch in the 2nd. And I'm including 5v5. The 1st period alone the Jackets had almost no scoring chances. Just no killer instinct and urgency once up 2 goals.

Five on five the Capitals did not outplay the Jackets in this game. The reason the caps were ahead is that they had a long power play and have better special teams. The shots on non-power play would show that, among other stats.

"Killer instinct" is a nice thing to talk about but once you try to define it or ask how to get it you realize it's a stupid concept. What happened here is the capitals' lack of depth got them outplayed past the first line, they were very fatigued (especially on defense), they're not very well-coached, and they were not the better team tonight. That should be pretty simple for you to understand and unless something significant changes or the jackets commit a lot of penalties in the upcoming games it will happen again and again.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

And u get a suspension and you get a suspension and you ...

Thanks Oprah!

 

[Sgt Brutus]

I have a feeling Anderson gets a game

 

[elocomotive]

Five on five the Capitals did not outplay the Jackets in this game. The reason the caps were ahead is that they had a long power play and have better special teams. The shots on non-power play would show that, among other stats.

So the Jackets were taking those clutch and grab penalties early on because they were controlling 5v5 play? Caps dominated the 1st period, Columbus only had 4 shots and were penalized for being behind the play and getting beat in the possession game.

The second was more even, but Caps still outshot the Jackets even without the PP shots.

Third the Caps went defensive shell too early and I agree the Jackets carried the play and the Caps were takiing the penalties because of it. But outplayed 5v5 for the game? No, I don't think you know what you're talking about and I bet your narrative would be different if the Caps had potted that goal in OT.

Regardless, the special teams are a part of it, and I think in the end Bob slightly outplayed Grubauer who wasn't asked to do much tonight, and didn't make any bad mistakes, but didn't do anything special either.

Regardless... they won, we lost, hockey is stupid.

 

[BottleWalk]

So the Jackets were taking those clutch and grab penalties early on because they were controlling 5v5 play? Caps dominated the 1st period, Columbus only had 4 shots and were penalized for being behind the play and getting beat in the possession game.

The second was more even, but Caps still outshot the Jackets even without the PP shots.

Third the Caps went defensive shell too early and I agree the Jackets carried the play and the Caps were takiing the penalties because of it. But outplayed 5v5 for the game? No, I don't think you know what you're talking about and I bet your narrative would be different if the Caps had potted that goal in OT.

Regardless, the special teams are a part of it, and I think in the end Bob slightly outplayed Grubauer who wasn't asked to do much tonight, and didn't make any bad mistakes, but didn't do anything special either.

Regardless... they won, we lost, hockey is stupid.

Lol of course my "narrative" would not be different if the Caps had won in OT. When DSP scored I thought it was a terrible shift by the Caps and I was happy they got on the board but I thought things were not looking good.

There are some people, and apparently you are one of them who only look at things like shots (and the fact that the final shot tally is even close in this game at all is a testament to the fact that the Caps did not outplay the jackets, but you don't seem to be getting that). All it takes is to look at the way players such as Orlov play defensively, or how the fourth line played, and you get a totally different picture, but that might be a little much.

The funny thing is that, to stick with the only stat you seem to care about, given the shot totals this team puts up on a regular basis, this may end up being the only game of the series in which they lead that category. They can't expect five minute penalties every game...

In sum, they didn't just lose this game because of some lack of "killer instinct" as you say. There's more to it than that, and there's more to a game than shot totals, too. If you think the capitals would win the series if they played this "well" in all the other games then that's not a very smart conclusion, unless you only define "well" with one statistic.

 

[forty_three]

Can I write in Richard Petty?

No

Richard Petty is a damn good write in vote...

/Troy Polamalu is another.

No

Panarin is nothing without Kane.

Poor guy.

Breadman delivers

YEAST MODE

That was a pretty fun evening of hockey watching. We pulled the bedroom TV to the family room and set it up with my laptop and had a Skype hockey party with my cousins. My son had a few teammates over and a couple of my coach friends were over too. On the Md side we had pretty much my whole family there and my cousin's beer league team. There was much trash talking and middle finger extending. A total blast. So many wings consumed.

Some thoughts;
- My money was on Dubinsky being the meat head to do something stupid and getting tossed. So unnecessary Josh. Hope Kempny is okay. Not gonna wade into the game misconduct debate. I didn't see it as a gamer. But yes, Major all the way. Dubinsky actually had a good game, I thought.
- I will, however ask again "what even is goalie interference?". All season it has been "if the attacking player prevents the goalie from playing his position." And I was okay with that. Still open to some interpretation, but a good starting point. Then Lougate happened. The NHL released a statement saying that if Arvidsson hadn't made contact with Luongo, the puck would have remained under him. Okay, I disagree and didn't think that it was right, but the precedent was set. Then, last night, the puck is under Bob's pad and Oshie makes contact with his skate freeing it up. Again, I didn't think it was interference when it happened to Lou, and I didn't necessarily believe it was last night. But the league ruled, released a video and the very next call ruled the other way. C'mon guys. I need to mail a dead catfish to Toronto.
- Part of the discussion last night was who on the opposing team would you want most on yours. The Caps guys were 50/50 split between Jones and Panarin. Most of us on the Jackets side want OV. But for my money, I'd take Orlov. Fucker just doesn't really do anything wrong.
- Burakovsky is... holy schnikies he's good.
- No point in saying anything about Wilson. He is what he is; Marchand with less talent and a smaller nose. Hope the Swedish Dreamboat is okay. They showed a shot of him on the bench and my one cousin said she was defecting to become a Jackets fan and asked me to get her a Wenny jersey.
- I love that all four Jackets goals were "Jackets" goals. Someone made the effort and it got home. Like I said earlier, put up or shut up time for the Jackets. Show who they are, and they did it. Jenner never giving up on a flipper, Vanek holding ground with Orpik dry humping him, Atkinson's sweet butterfly at the blue line and Cole with the diving poke to send it to Panarin. Fuckin' A boys. And as great as it was being Jackets Hockey, Jones passing back to his open net on a delayed call is also peak Jackets hockey...
- Thank God for visors. Fliggy didn't miss a shift.

Would really like the next game to not get outshot so insanely early on, but otherwise steady up boys. Play your game.

And Anderson, you owe that room two.

 

[elocomotive]

There are some people, and apparently you are one of them who only look at things like shots (and the fact that the final shot tally is even close in this game at all is a testament to the fact that the Caps did not outplay the jackets, but you don't seem to be getting that).

I talked about possession repeatedly in my comments. If you look at the thread, I actually commented on it throughout the game as well in real time, not in the hindsight of a loss like you. I didn't talk about just shots (despite your repeated mischaracterizations), but they are a good indicator of the ice tilt and why advanced statistics use them often in key measures, so they shouldn't be ignored either.

I mentioned shots, goalie play, team strategy, and possession. Your response...
"Why do you only mention shots?!?"

Can you read, dude? Geesh... you could at least be funny or something.

 

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Trotz: No goalie decision yet for Game 2 - Article - TSN

 

[BottleWalk]

I talked about possession repeatedly in my comments. If you look at the thread, I actually commented on it throughout the game as well in real time, not in the hindsight of a loss like you. I didn't talk about just shots (despite your repeated mischaracterizations), but they are a good indicator of the ice tilt and why advanced statistics use them often in key measures, so they shouldn't be ignored either.

I mentioned shots, goalie play, team strategy, and possession. Your response...
"Why do you only mention shots?!?"

Can you read, dude? Geesh... you could at least be funny or something.

If the capitals play like they did at even strength and fail to generate serious scoring chances while being gassed on the blue line and shaky in cage throughout the rest of the series, they will lose the series. I don't know how to make that easier for you.

This really isn't that difficult. It really isn't.