Ray Rice super thread.

[bksballer89]

This shit cracks me up. Ray Rice being treated like he's Aaron Hernandez.

What a joke.

 

[BoBlake]

This shit cracks me up. Ray Rice being treated like he's Aaron Hernandez.

What a joke.

And Goodell being treated like HE hit HIS wife.

 

[bksballer89]

The video should have never been made available to the public 7 months after it happened. If the NFL just got the video, only the NFL & Ravens should've seen the video

 

[blue_suns]

This shit cracks me up. Ray Rice being treated like he's Aaron Hernandez.

What a joke.

Now that you mention it, is Aaron Hernandez even suspended now?

 

[bksballer89]

If Gregg Hardy is charged how long is he suspended for? Indefinitely also or because there's no video, will he just get the 6 game slap on the wrist? What abut the guy from San fran?

 

[Mondo Jay]

If Gregg Hardy is charged how long is he suspended for? Indefinitely also or because there's no video, will he just get the 6 game slap on the wrist? What abut the guy from San fran?

BURN THEM!!!

 

[bksballer89]

Goodell put himself in a slippery slope situation here now. He should have just increased it to 6 games...Now if anyone else who has a domestic violence situation as Rice did doesn't get the same suspension it will look like the only reason Rice got his length of suspension will be because of the video

 

[LogicMan]

Ray Lewis: ?There is no comparison between me and Ray Rice? | ProFootballTalk

Speaking of comparisons to Ray Rice, Ray Lewis just had to pipe in.

And Lewis gets a statue (without the white suit mind you) , and Ray Rice is sent away for good

Funny eh?

 

[always]

This whole thing has gotten blown way outta control. Ray Rice should have gotten stiffer punishment from the law, but he did not. So we really should be moving on. I don't know why they have to continue to probe into this.

I'm sick of guys around the league painting this man as the devil. Don't ever point your fingers that dismissively at another man unless you've never done anything wrong yourself. Wrong is wrong, I don't care what you do.

I'm more concerned about a day we no longer tolerate forgiveness instead of the day everybody becomes a rapist and violent man.

 

[tzorn10]

I'm tired of all this Ray Rice news anyways. I think we all agree, he's a bum that punched his old lady and he should do some time, but enough is enough. The NFL is making mountains out of mole hills. Personally, I don't think what a player does in his own time, is any of their business anyways. Let the law take care of it. All I know is when they interrupted 'Around The Horn' today with breaking news about his video that nobody gives a shit about, I was pissed.

 

[kramer1]

If....I'd bet money that Goodell never got the tape. He is to smart to flat out lie.

Hahahaha. You can't possibly be this naive.

 

[Godstree]

You may be right, dude, but nothing surprises me anymore these days. It's like everyone's first intuition is to 'lie' when all else fails.

Seems to me that is the go to answer for about anything negative. Spin the situation like a politician and then swirl around the truth while flat out lying.

I guess it depends on the definition of "hit" is. He didn't think anything he did was wrong as he didn't see any yellow flags, the hit was legal because it happened "in bounds of the elevator", he thought since he hit her first he would be in trouble because it is alway the retaliation that gets the ejection, etc..

 

[Superbelt]

Breaking: James Harrison taken to Presbyterian Hospital in Pittsburgh Wednesday night with unsoothable erection.
Physicians unsure how to proceed.

 

[HizzleRocker]

You mean the anonymous "law enforcement" person who illegally leaked a video and the anonymous "league representative" who left a voicemail and may or may not have passed it up the chain.

If anything I bet the leagues lawyers wouldn't allow Goodell to see the tape. The league was informed that they did not have the rights to view this evidence.

Exactly what do you think made it illegal? Why would it be illegal to share a security video? Now it may be against company policy - but that is a far cry from "illegal."

If video was turned over there would certainly not be anything wrong with goddell watching it.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Exactly what do you think made it illegal? Why would it be illegal to share a security video? Now it may be against company policy - but that is a far cry from "illegal."

If video was turned over there would certainly not be anything wrong with goddell watching it.

Not true. How "evidence" is obtained is a major issue in the legal court when trying to use said evidence to punish someone.

This is why you see evidence "thrown out" in courts all the time. It matters.

 

[Godstree]

Exactly what do you think made it illegal? Why would it be illegal to share a security video? Now it may be against company policy - but that is a far cry from "illegal."

If video was turned over there would certainly not be anything wrong with goddell watching it.

I am no lawyer but privacy laws are funny things. Is a closed elevator with no one else but those two considered public or not? Public I would think no not illegal, private then it could be illegal.

 

[sonnyblack65]

I'm tired of all this Ray Rice news anyways. I think we all agree, he's a bum that punched his old lady and he should do some time, but enough is enough. The NFL is making mountains out of mole hills. Personally, I don't think what a player does in his own time, is any of their business anyways. Let the law take care of it. All I know is when they interrupted 'Around The Horn' today with breaking news about his video that nobody gives a shit about, I was pissed.

I concur

 

[HizzleRocker]

Not true. How "evidence" is obtained is a major issue in the legal court when trying to use said evidence to punish someone.

This is why you see evidence "thrown out" in courts all the time. It matters.

I am no lawyer but privacy laws are funny things. Is a closed elevator with no one else but those two considered public or not? Public I would think no not illegal, private then it could be illegal.

Both completely wrong.

1) Cincyfan: Illegally obtained evidence is thrown out by a judge, if illegally obtained by the police and being used in the criminal case. A security guard giving it to the NFL has nothing to do with that. You are mixing apples and oranges.

2) Godstree: A hotel elevator is not a private setting. No expectation of privacy. If it truly was a private setting - then the recording itself would be illegal, not the handing over of the video. If that were the case, simply having a camera in the elevator in the first place would be illegal.


Again - the NFL has no subpoena power here. The hotel could decide to willingly turn it over - or not. But there is absolutely nothing illegal in doing so.

 

[Godstree]

Both completely wrong.

1) Cincyfan: Illegally obtained evidence is thrown out by a judge, if illegally obtained by the police and being used in the criminal case. A security guard giving it to the NFL has nothing to do with that. You are mixing apples and oranges.

2) Godstree: A hotel elevator is not a private setting. No expectation of privacy. If it truly was a private setting - then the recording itself would be illegal, not the handing over of the video. If that were the case, simply having a camera in the elevator in the first place would be illegal.


Again - the NFL has no subpoena power here. The hotel could decide to willingly turn it over - or not. But there is absolutely nothing illegal in doing so.

Since I don't know you at all as I am a refugee, is this your opinion or is it a fact? I didn't think it was illegal to record in an elevator but from state to state I know that privacy laws are different.

 

[Money]

Both completely wrong.

1) Cincyfan: Illegally obtained evidence is thrown out by a judge, if illegally obtained by the police and being used in the criminal case. A security guard giving it to the NFL has nothing to do with that. You are mixing apples and oranges.

2) Godstree: A hotel elevator is not a private setting. No expectation of privacy. If it truly was a private setting - then the recording itself would be illegal, not the handing over of the video. If that were the case, simply having a camera in the elevator in the first place would be illegal.


Again - the NFL has no subpoena power here. The hotel could decide to willingly turn it over - or not. But there is absolutely nothing illegal in doing so.

How would you expect the NFL authenticate a video that was sent illegally to them?

BTW...the casino could never just decide to turn over that video to whomever they decided they wanted to. Don't be ridiculous.