Kyrie Requests Trade from Cavs.

[Iggloo]

 

[bksballer89]

I totally see why he wants to leave. He already got his ring so him wanting to be the lead man doesn't shock me.

 

[CitySushi]

I totally see why he wants to leave. He already got his ring so him wanting to be the lead man doesn't shock me.

Wrote in the other thread, it's also about money. Kyrie needs to make an all-nba team in order to get maxed out to the fullest. It's going to be hard for him to do that in Lebron's shadow. He's looking to have a Westbrook type show and get his numbers up.

 

[The Derski]

Why not? Because he said some nice things about him in public?

His job is to make the Lakers better and Irving is a sure thing to make them better. Lonzo's not.

To me Kyrie is not and never will be the centerpiece of a championship team. So the Lakers would need more than him, Ingram, and Randle to seriously contend. Especially in the west. They may win more games initially but in the long run it would be a one step forward, two steps back kind of move. Plus you can't get rid of Lonzo before he even plays a game. At least not in this situation.

 

[hockey878]

Wrote in the other thread, it's also about money. Kyrie needs to make an all-nba team in order to get maxed out to the fullest. It's going to be hard for him to do that in Lebron's shadow. He's looking to have a Westbrook type show and get his numbers up.

Kyrie could make all-NBA easily if he just played a lick of defense.

I'd be curious what his numbers/the cavs record was in games that Kyrie played that LeBron sat out... see what results they got when he was "the guy".

Really strange move IMO. Being "the guy" on a crappy team isn't usually a fun situation (ask young LeBron, KG etc).

 

[logic]

NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

 

[CitySushi]

Here are my initial trade value thoughts:

1)Trade Irving and Shumpert to the Bulls for Wade and Lavine. Bulls get a centerpiece to build around. Cavs get Wade back with Bron if only for a year but get Lavine who's up and coming. At worst Wade's contract is up after the year to shed some cap space.

2) Trade Irving and JR Smith to the Bucks for Jabari Parker, Greg Monroe and Spencer Hawes. The Cavs get back Parker and also clear about 25M in cap space.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Just read the article and this thing stands out to me.

The request came last week and was made to Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert. Irving has expressed that he wants to go play in a situation where he can be a more focal point and no longer wants to play alongside LeBron James, sources said.

Even more of a mindfuck lmao

Cmon Wade! Come to fucking Cleveland! Lol

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Thoughts @WiggyRuss

I'm sure he's working on a Midnight Manifesto as we talk...

 

[Vyle203]

They might as well trade Lebron too.

 

[logic]

Here are my initial trade value thoughts:

1)Trade Irving and Shumpert to the Bulls for Wade and Lavine. Bulls get a centerpiece to build around. Cavs get Wade back with Bron if only for a year but get Lavine who's up and coming. At worst Wade's contract is up after the year to shed some cap space.

2) Trade Irving and JR Smith to the Bucks for Jabari Parker, Greg Monroe and Spencer Hawes. The Cavs get back Parker and also clear about 25M in cap space.

Both of these are too lopsided to work. Wade mades too much and Monroe makes almost as much as Kyrie. Plus, both of these are not only in conference, but in division. Gilbert's dumb, but.....

 

[CitySushi]

Both of these are too lopsided to work. Wade mades too much and Monroe makes almost as much as Kyrie. Plus, both of these are not only in conference, but in division. Gilbert's dumb, but.....

Maybe trade value, but contracts wise, it matches up.

 

[LALakersboy24.7]

What a big fuck up the Cavaliers have done this off season. But I also believe Kyrie doesn't get along with the Queen.

 

[logic]

Maybe trade value, but contracts wise, it matches up.

Hmmmm...both failed on the ESPN NBA Trade Machine

 

[CitySushi]

With the situation that the Cavs are in any return they get will need to have two major things:

1) Young Talent
2) Cap Space

It's the only way they can realistically start to re-configure their roster. They're not going to get equal value on this market for Kyrie talent wise.

 

[CitySushi]

Hmmmm...both failed on the ESPN NBA Trade Machine

The Milwaukee one worked for me:

Kyrie - 18.8M
JR - 13.7M

Monroe - 17.8
Parker - 6.7
Hawes 6.1

The Bulls one probably didn't work for you because Lavine can't be traded in combination with another player for 2 months because he was recently traded. Trade can be consummated before the season starts. But Salaries match up:

Wade -24M
Lavine 3.2M

Irving 18.8M
Shumpert 10M

 

[logic]

The Milwaukee one worked for me:

Kyrie - 18.8M
JR - 13.7M

Monroe - 17.8
Parker - 6.7
Hawes 6.1

The Bulls one probably didn't work for you because Lavine can't be traded in combination with another player for 2 months because he was recently traded. Trade can be consummated before the season starts. But Salaries match up:

Wade -24M
Lavine 3.2M

Irving 18.8M
Shumpert 10M

Sorry, I f'ed it up. Forgot to dump the extra weight from the Cavs

 

[thunderc]

Remember this is a guy that thinks the earth is flat.

 

[Mecca]

What type of possibilities are out there?

Shit, Chris Paul if this had happened 2 weeks ago.

 

[Mecca]

Why not? Because he said some nice things about him in public?

His job is to make the Lakers better and Irving is a sure thing to make them better. Lonzo's not.

Because it would screw up his cap space next Summer.