Is Brady now the All-Time Greatest QB?

[Desean12345]

There is an argument to be made for him but i still lean with Montana and Elway ahead of him.

 

[PDay8810]

Best QB for a game and best resume for a QB are 2 totally different things.

Staubach might be #5 for me. I think he was a lot better than Aikman. I always think of Emmitt Smith and that oline before I think of Aikman and Irvin.

understandable, you not being a Dallas fan and all.
The Dallas organization knows who stirred the drink in the early 90's.
Aikman was huge in the playoffs, but it was football 101 with emmitt and that line

Staubach was pure greatness, regardless of the era.
His prime years were spent in Vietnam.
Pure Captain in every sense of the word

 

[TxHeat]

Johnny "College" Football may be warming a seat for him.

I hope Gronk is smart enough to stay away from that little prick.

 

[RaidaDave]

I hope Gronk is smart enough to stay away from that little prick.

LOL. JCF and Bieber could be the end of him.

 

[molsaniceman]

For my money Staubach was the best QB of the 70s.

Staubach threw a game losing pick in SB X

 

[PDay8810]

Staubach threw a game losing pick in SB X

yep....on the games last play after throwing a TD the previous drive to bring the game to 4.
Hardly a bad pay on his part. Nobody said Roger walked on water, but captain comeback was a special player

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

Discuss.

4 SB titles in the Cap era as the best player on the team all 4 times.

Manning has better stats but can't win. Favre too, except he doesn't really have better stats. Marino no ring at all.

Montana had better teams around him.

Elway couldn't win without Davis.

Unitas and Starr played in a different era and it's hard to compare.

Terry Bradshaw 4-4 in SIX years.

 

[PDay8810]

Terry Bradshaw 4-4 in SIX years.

I tip my cap to Bradshaw as I do Bart Starr

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

I tip my cap to Bradshaw as I do Bart Starr

And Bradshaw beat Staubach TWICE in the Super Bowl - and Roger was a STUD too!

The 70's is the Golden Age of football IMHO, there was little to no parity and you had to play outstanding teams just to get to the Super Bowl.

 

[calsnowskier]

I think that Brady/Montana are the clear #1/#2, but in any order.

Granted, Montana likely had a stronger team around him, but he also played in an era where the top teams were MUCH stronger than the top teams are today due to the salary cap. Therefore, winning the big games was equalized when compared to today's game.

While I would go with Joe as #1 and Brady at #2, I would not defend that too vigorously, because there are equally strong arguments in both directions.

 

[RaidaDave]

And Bradshaw beat Staubach TWICE in the Super Bowl - and Roger was a STUD too!

The 70's is the Golden Age of football IMHO, there was little to no parity and you had to play outstanding teams just to get to the Super Bowl.

Definitely.

 

[Wazmankg]

Staubach threw a game losing pick in SB X

The "losing pick" ? It was a 40 yard Hail Mary on the last play of the game. He bounced one off his WR's helmet in the end zone the play before.

 

[purguy12]

At least there should be no more talk about Brady vs Payton. Its not even close. Brady is in my top 3.

 

[purguy12]

I think that Brady/Montana are the clear #1/#2, but in any order.

Granted, Montana likely had a stronger team around him, but he also played in an era where the top teams were MUCH stronger than the top teams are today due to the salary cap. Therefore, winning the big games was equalized when compared to today's game.

While I would go with Joe as #1 and Brady at #2, I would not defend that too vigorously, because there are equally strong arguments in both directions.

I agree with this. I also have to give it to montana because he never lost the big game and he had to play in an era where the QB got hit, and receivers got bumped. It was just a more physical era.

Overall I have no problem with people that think Brady is #1.

 

[flyingelvis]

I agree with this. I also have to give it to montana because he never lost the big game and he had to play in an era where the QB got hit, and receivers got bumped. It was just a more physical era.

Overall I have no problem with people that think Brady is #1.

I think I may still keep Montana #1 and Brady #2. Its close, but mostly because I have a hard time penalizing Brady for the 2 SB loses since he handed the defense a late game lead only to have the defense give it up. His 3rd SB and this one were the exceptions.

But yes, they are probably 1 and 2.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

I agree with this. I also have to give it to montana because he never lost the big game and he had to play in an era where the QB got hit, and receivers got bumped. It was just a more physical era.

Overall I have no problem with people that think Brady is #1.

But at the same time, did they have 6' 3 250 lbs defensive ends who can run the 40 in 5 seconds?

 

[Hunter Montana]

Peter Brady was already the all-time greatest QB. Just check out that throw!

 

[phantomfoul88]

1) Brady
2) Montana
3) Manning (Choker but stats are terrific)

 

[TxHeat]

At least there should be no more talk about Brady vs Payton. Its not even close. Brady is in my top 3.

that whole talk was utter nonsense before and even more so now.

 

[DenBronc]

I totally agree. It is very hard to compare eras. But, I do remember Elway ripping my heart out more than once in the last 2-3 minutes of a game after he had stunk it up the first 57 minutes or so.

When he was in Dan Reeves' system, that's usually the way it was. He wasn't in a sophisticated passing offense the first 10 years of his career. Steve Watson basically called it the Edsel offense, and said that they only sent three receivers out in the pattern a lot of the time because Dan's priority was protection, not attacking a defense.

Elway's stats improved dramatically when Reeves left and when Jim Fassel arrived in 1993. Elway threw for 60% completion twice in college when Fassel was an assistant at Stanford. Then, after never doing that in Dan's system, he threw for over 60 percent again working with Jim.