Davis Webb being told he is

[GoldRusher]

"a first round guy"

QB Webb says he's being told he's a first-rounder

I hope he does get drafted round 1...


Cause his QB coach (Spav) is back at WVU now and can sell recruits on producing another NFL QB..

 

[Lance Armstrong]

Mahomes is the best QB in the draft, someone is getting a steal in late round 1.

 

[Clayton]

But if there are 3 comprable choices simply by waiting a few rounds (same goes for all positions), why the hell would you jump the gun, or not just trade down?

Because you're basically gambling that you're smarter than every other team.

Tom Brady, Russell Wilson and Dak Prescott would all go top 2 in redrafts.

 

[Clayton]

• Tom Brady - 6th round
• Drew Brees - 2nd round
• Eli Manning - 1st round
• Philip Rivers - 1st round
• Ben Rothlisberger - 1st round
• Andy Dalton - 2nd round
• Aaron Rodgers - 1st round
• Matt Ryan - 1st round
• Joe Flacco - 1st round
• Derek Carr - 2nd round
• Russel Wilson - 3rd round
• Matt Stafford - 1st round
• Cam Newton - 1st round
• Andrew Luck - 1st round
• Jameis Winston - 1st round
• Derek Carr - 2nd round
  
• Dak Prescott - 4th round

Franchise QB's based on where they were drafted:

1st Round QB's: 10
2nd Round QB's: 4
3rd Round QB's: 1
Late Round QB's: 2

Good luck to those who wait on QBs.

 

[WestEndVol]

Who? That the UAB QB??

 

[7Samurai13]

• Tom Brady - 6th round
• Drew Brees - 2nd round
• Eli Manning - 1st round
• Philip Rivers - 1st round
• Ben Rothlisberger - 1st round
• Andy Dalton - 2nd round
• Aaron Rodgers - 1st round
• Matt Ryan - 1st round
• Joe Flacco - 1st round
• Derek Carr - 2nd round
• Russel Wilson - 3rd round
• Matt Stafford - 1st round
• Cam Newton - 1st round
• Andrew Luck - 1st round
• Jameis Winston - 1st round
• Derek Carr - 2nd round
  
• Dak Prescott - 4th round

Franchise QB's based on where they were drafted:

1st Round QB's: 10
2nd Round QB's: 4
3rd Round QB's: 1
Late Round QB's: 2

Good luck to those who wait on QBs.

Where's Kirk Cousins?

 

[Clayton]

Where's Kirk Cousins?

Eh, thats what I get for copy/pasting someone elses thoughts but I think they left him off the list because for some reason the Redskins are waffling on their most valuable player.

 

[7Samurai13]

Eh, thats what I get for copy/pasting someone elses thoughts but I think they left him off the list because for some reason the Redskins are waffling on their most valuable player.

I was just giving you shit. I wasn't really expecting him to be on the list.

 

[Clayton]

I was just giving you shit. I wasn't really expecting him to be on the list.

I noticed they didnt list Alex Smith, either. Then again, I guess you could argue that you could find an Alex Smith in rd2 or rd3

 

[theboardref]

Let's take a look at just qb's that teams used a first round pick on since 2000 and see how many were good investments. I have no problem with a qb going round 2, but redrafts are imaginary games. If you knew how good a player was going to be of course you would have drafted them higher. I also thought Russel Wilson would be sucessfull but no way I would have gone higher than a second round pick.

Out of 43 picks in the first round since 2002 only 14 have been worth their pick. That comes out to less than one per season. You are better off toying in free agency till a qb worth a true 1st round pick shows up. Out of these 15 seasons qb's like Tom Brady, Dak Prescott, Luke McCown, Matt Shaub, Matt Cassell, Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn, Colon Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, Mike Glennon, Landry Jones, Jimmy Garrapolo, Trevor Siemian. Not all great, good, or barely passable as mediocre, but compare these names to the ones posted below. You find suplimental qb's till you find a good enough qb to take the risk. Too many teams take a 1st chance risk on a garbage qb and pay for it. Because when you pick a garbage qb in round one, you now have to use him and validate his worth, unless his name is Jared Goff of course.

2002:
David Carr

Joey Harrington

Patrick Ramsey

2003:
Carson Palmer

Byron Leftwich

Kyle Boller

Rex Grossman

2004:
Eli Manning

Phillip Rivers

Ben Roethlisberger

JP Losman

2005:
Alex Smith

Aaron Rodgers

Jason Campbell

2006:

Vince Young

Matt Leinart

Jay Cutler

2007:
JaMarcus Russell

Brady Quinn

2008:
Matt Ryan

Joe Flacco

2009:
Matthew Stafford

Mark Sanchez

Josh Freeman

2010:
Sam Bradford

Tim Tebow

2011:
Cam Newton

Jake Locker

Blaine Gabbert

Christian Ponder

2012:
Andrew Luck

Robert Griffen III

Ryan Tannehill

Brandon Weeden

2013:
EJ Manuel-

2014:
Blake Borttles

Johnny Manziel

Teddy Bridgewater

2015:
Jameis Winston

Marcus Mariota

2016:
Jared Goff

Carson Wentz

Paxton Lynch

 

[Clayton]

You find supplemental qb's till you find a good enough qb to take the risk.

Apparently you think NFL Coaches and GMs have some level of job security. This is not how the NFL works. You roll the dice on a QB and hope things work out. People picked apart Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. Its your job as an NFL team to develop the guy sometimes.

The Chiefs have been taking supplemental QBs since before I was born. No Championships lately

 

[theboardref]

Apparently you think NFL Coaches and GMs have some level of job security. This is not how the NFL works. You roll the dice on a QB and hope things work out. People picked apart Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. Its your job as an NFL team to develop the guy sometimes.

The Chiefs have been taking supplemental QBs since before I was born. No Championships lately

Better than becoming irrelevant because your team has 3 positions of need and you go with a qb that fizzles out. Meanwhile the number 2 player drafted is a clear cut easy to predict all-pro bowler in the position you needed all because you took a dumb risk.

 

[Deep Creek]

Mahomes is the best QB in the draft, someone is getting a steal in late round 1.

I heard one of the talent gurus say just that on a talk show the other day. He did qualify it to say that it would be 4-5 years out but he thought by that time Mahomes would be the best of this class.

 

[Clayton]

Better than becoming irrelevant because your team has 3 positions of need and you go with a qb that fizzles out. Meanwhile the number 2 player drafted is a clear cut easy to predict all-pro bowler in the position you needed all because you took a dumb risk.

Whoa....

Are you insinuating that other positions don't bust at a high rate?

You think the Rams are happy they've taken 2 Left Tackle busts #2 overall in the past decade?

 

[7Samurai13]

I heard one of the talent gurus say just that on a talk show the other day. He did qualify it to say that it would be 4-5 years out but he thought by that time Mahomes would be the best of this class.

My only issue is a first round pick shouldn't be a four or five year project. That should be closer to a third round pick unless you are a team like the Patriots were you can afford a couple of years to season a backup and primed to start once the QB steps down.

 

[7Samurai13]

Whoa....

Are you insinuating that other positions don't bust at a high rate?

You think the Rams are happy they've taken 2 Left Tackle busts #2 overall in the past decade?

CC Matt Millen and Wide Receivers.

 

[Clayton]

CC Matt Millen and Wide Receivers.

I bet he probably thought Glenn Dorsey was going to be better than Matt Ryan

 

[theboardref]

Whoa....

Are you insinuating that other positions don't bust at a high rate?

You think the Rams are happy they've taken 2 Left Tackle busts #2 overall in the past decade?

O-line is just like qb. You better make damn sure they are the right guy. Like the Saints drafting that garbage ass Andrus Peete. Who the hell would have thought a olinemen that should have never been drafted before round 3 would be a wasted pick?

 

[theboardref]

I bet he probably thought Glenn Dorsey was going to be better than Matt Ryan

Matt Ryan was one of the easiest qb draft choices to make. He was clearly a first round pick.

 

[Deep Creek]

My only issue is a first round pick shouldn't be a four or five year project. That should be closer to a third round pick unless you are a team like the Patriots were you can afford a couple of years to season a backup and primed to start once the QB steps down.

The talking head didn't think Mahomes would be worht a first or even a second round pick. (Didn't think the rest of them were either but felt like some would get taken that high.) He thought Mahomes would go in the later rounds but would end up being the best of the class by the peak of their careers.