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tlance

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He deserves 10 games.

But, if they give it to him, NBPA should file an appeal immediately.

Jokic fucked the Morris twin up enough for him to miss 58 games and only got a 1 game Suspension.

The optics would be horrible.

I hear you….

Too results based though, IMO.

Jokic deserved suspension. But no way to know Morris would miss that much time when it went down.

And I think what Hayes did is a lot more dangerous than what Jokic did.

Just went very wrong for Morris.
 

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I hear you….

Too results based though, IMO.

Jokic deserved suspension. But no way to know Morris would miss that much time when it went down.

And I think what Hayes did is a lot more dangerous than what Jokic did.

Just went very wrong for Morris.
Both look like whiplash, concussion type potential.

But, you are correct.

You can’t upgrade the punishment just because the results were far worse than anyone expected.
 

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Both look like whiplash, concussion type potential.

But, you are correct.

You can’t upgrade the punishment just because the results were far worse than anyone expected.
What is it that is always said about stars in the NBA? I mean they miss enough games on their own, if they want to play the league isn’t going to stand in their way. Jokic not like that though I know.
 

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As a Piston fan, I’d have felt better about the KO if he’d landed it on his face.

Glad it was Hayes, if it was going to be anyone. Cuz I’m okay with where Wagner’s hip check shuv happened resulting in him getting punched in the head. He won’t be pulling that shit in front of anyone else’s bench again.

I’m okay with ten games, so long as Mo has to sit some too. He started dirty and it ended dirtier.
 

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I disagree.

You can have competitive edge without fighting. No place for fighting in the NBA. These dudes are way too big, strong and unprotected.

From personal experience, some of my most intense and physical competition on the basketball court has come against some of my closest friends.

Being friends off the court doesn’t prevent them from going at each other’s throats on it. You don’t have to dislike your opponent to want to beat his ass.
Can you imagine the 80s Celtics, Bulls, Lakers and Pistons being all cuddly like the teams are now? To me, it makes for such a better rivalry when the players hate each other. Other sports too, the Raiders, Steelers, Cowboys hatred of each other in football; the Dodgers-Giants in baseball. Those days are gone with the nonchalance of the multimillionaire player of today.
 

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Can you imagine the 80s Celtics, Bulls, Lakers and Pistons being all cuddly like the teams are now? To me, it makes for such a better rivalry when the players hate each other. Other sports too, the Raiders, Steelers, Cowboys hatred of each other in football; the Dodgers-Giants in baseball. Those days are gone with the nonchalance of the multimillionaire player of today.

The example you gave earlier was from the Lakers and Pistons.

So yeah. I can imagine.
 

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The league consistently protects the pistons in these fights…for whatever reason
 

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Three games for Hayes and two games for Wagner is how I would go about it, but we'll see.
 

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The league consistently protects the pistons in these fights…for whatever reason
This is ironically true. The fact that nine Orlando players got suspended simply because it happened near the Pistons’ bench is a joke. I know rules are rules, but the NBA could and should evolve its system over time.
 

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I don't see how Wagner is being accused of starting this fight.
He was screening Hayes to squeeze him out of bounds ...if anything it was an unintentional hip check at most.

Of course the NBA's PR firm (ESPN) is calling this a "scuffle" ...this was way more than a scuffle.



I thought the guy deserved to be punched in the back of the head.
 

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This is ironically true. The fact that nine Orlando players got suspended simply because it happened near the Pistons’ bench is a joke. I know rules are rules, but the NBA could and should evolve its system over time.

Don't start a fight in front of the opposing teams bench seems like a wise thing to do
 

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This was a catfight compared to the 90's and early 2000's. Welcome to a league where Draymond Green is considered a "tough guy"...
You just can't stop your man crush on Draymond can you. He is always living in the pea brain of yours rent free.
 

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What exactly is your point

Mo made a dirty play and Hayes responded dirty

And should’ve gotten probably 3x the punishment he got

3 games is a joke
 

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Three games for Hayes and two games for Wagner is how I would go about it, but we'll see.
Considering the punishments were announced 30 minutes before your post was made, you didn't get anything right. You simply copied what real journalist put out hoping to not get called out.
 
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