Best examples of tragic heroes in cinema/television

[Omar 382]

So you're saying the show should be called Born Bad?

No, but that he "Broke Bad" in the pilot episode.

 

[chf]

It's called an opinion, bro. Notice the acronym "IMO"?

C'mon now, you opened the door with that bit about 'the best ever written.' You can't act all affronted when people call you on that.

I read all the HP books with my then eight year old kid, but I wouldn't have touched them with a ten foot pole otherwise. As a wannabe writer, I admire the fuck out of Rowling for succeeding where no-one said she could, but she's not a 'great' author. She has however sold a shit ton of books. And become filthy rich. Good for her.

 

[chf]

What do you know about America, eh? By the way, I think the line is getting a little long as Tim Horton's. Better put down the phone and go check on those customers man...

I'm as American as you bub.

 

[Omar 382]

C'mon now, you opened the door with that bit about 'the best ever written.' You can't act all affronted when people call you on that.

I read all the HP books with my then eight year old kid, but I wouldn't have touched them with a ten foot pole otherwise. As a wannabe writer, I admire the fuck out of Rowling for succeeding where no-one said she could, but she's not a 'great' author. She has however sold a shit ton of books. And become filthy rich. Good for her.

I agree that Rowling is not the best author in the world, but Snape is just one of like 100 characters she wrote for the books. Blind squirrels and such...

 

[Omar 382]

I'm as American as you bub.

C'mon now, you know I was just fucking with you. You can't have "Calgary" in your location and then act all affronted when people make Tim Horton jokes.

 

[chf]

At least it was written for adults, kiddo.

Debatable.

 

[chf]

C'mon now, you know I was just fucking with you. You can't have "Calgary" in your location and then act all affronted when people make Tim Horton jokes.

Affronted? Heh. No.

 

[Clayton]

No, but that he "Broke Bad" in the pilot episode.

I would argue that the entire point of the show is that crime is both sociological and moral. Its why Jesse Pinkman exists as a character. Pinkman is someone who Broke Bad long before Walt but never lost his morality. Walt is someone who was maybe never moral but was held up by society. Ultimately when Walt has to make real, tough moral decisions then he progressively because more 'Bad' while Pinkman fights being more 'Bad'

 

[Omar 382]

Speaking of "affronted," has anyone seen the general board? It's a circle-jerk of a bunch of cocksuckers whining about me not leaving, when handicappers never agreed to the bet and wasn't going to honor it himself, and I stopped posting on their sacred board entirely. Can someone say

 

[Omar 382]

I would argue that the entire point of the show is that crime is both sociological and moral. Its why Jesse Pinkman exists as a character. Pinkman is someone who Broke Bad long before Walt but never lost his morality. Walt is someone who was maybe never moral but was held up by society. Ultimately when Walt has to make real, tough moral decisions then he progressively because more 'Bad' while Pinkman fights being more 'Bad'

I agree about Pinkman. He actually feels bad about the shit him and Walter do

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Debatable.

"If Nicholas Cage was in it, it must be shit."

Or not.

 

[Omar 382]

"If Nicholas Cage was in it, it must be shit."

Or not.

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 - Wikipedia

 

[chf]

"If Nicholas Cage was in it, it must be shit."

Or not.

Loves me some LLV. Cage is one of the weirdest actors to ever hit Hollywood, can rise to the script, or sink to it, spectacularly in either direction.

Was going more the route of those movies being aimed specifically at adults.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 - Wikipedia

So, similarly lofty critical accolades but without Nicholas Cage. Or awards.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Loves me some LLV. Cage is one of the weirdest actors to ever hit Hollywood, can rise to the script, or sink to it, spectacularly in either direction.

Was going more the route of those movies being aimed specifically at adults.

I don't know which movies you're talking about.

 

[Omar 382]

So, similar lofty critic accolades but without Nicholas Cage. Or awards.

Yes, because we all know awards are the best objective measure of a movie's enjoyability...

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Yes, because we all know awards are the best objective measure of a movie's enjoyability...

Please give us your brilliant synopsis of Tigger's inner-conflict in Winnie the Pooh.

 

[chf]

I don't know which movies you're talking about.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Ah. I've never seen any of those. I just mentioned Cage's character from Leaving Las Vegas.

I think Omar brought National Treasure up because he's a talking cheesesteak sandwich with mayo.

 

[chf]

Ah. I've never seen any of those. I just mentioned Cage's character from Leaving Las Vegas.

I think Omar brought National Treasure up because he's a talking cheesesteak sandwich with mayo.

They're closer to 'The Bees!' Cage, than LLV Cage.