Big 12 Expansion: It's Down to BYU, Houston, and Cincinnati

[Deep Creek]

Stability? I think that's pretty obvious.

I would agree if he meant stability as weakest. They are absolutely the least stable but they are no weaker than most conferences on a percentage basis.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

stability, finances, size....TV contract

Big 12 schools make more $$$ than the Pac 12 and ACC. As a matter of fact, Kansas State makes double the tier 3 money that any pac12 school does.

 

[GoldRusher]

Big 12 schools make more $$$ than the Pac 12 and ACC. As a matter of fact, Kansas State makes double the tier 3 money that any pac12 school does.

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Plus we are about to get a bump in money from the CCG plus more tv contract money for expanding.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

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Plus we are about to get a bump in money from the CCG plus more tv contract money for expanding.

On the other hand, the PAC 12 and ACC will still exist in 10 years.

 

[Deep Creek]

On the other hand, the PAC 12 and ACC will still exist in 10 years.

True. But neither may look like they do now. And they will probably still be making less $$ than the B1G and the SEC.

 

[TexasExes98]

True. But neither may look like they do now. And they will probably still be making less $$ than the B1G and the SEC.

Nobody will make more than the SEC and B1G, ever.....

 

[Lance Armstrong]

On the other hand, the PAC 12 and ACC will still exist in 10 years.

opinion.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Well, it's going to take 8 of the 10 to vote for Houston coming in. And the word is there are two for sure who dont want them, so they have a hard road ahead.

Which two? I googled it, but found nothing other than a Baylor Bear fan.

I posted earlier, Texas and Texas Tech are on board. Boren is on board, so Oklahoma is in. Gee is on board, so WVU is in. That is four.

Kansas, K State, and Iowa State are in because they do not like the other choice of there not being a Big 12. That is seven.

Pretty Sure that the Oklahoma State T Boone Pickens are in, they do whatever OU and UT tell them. That is eight.

That leaves Baylor and TCU. If it is those two, the politicians will wangle the back room deals to make them happy.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Back from the Dead?

Back in 1996, TCU, Houston, SMU, and Rice were left to fend for themselves. TCU is back in, Houston is not far behind, and now SMU wants to play.



SMU is pouring $150M into its facilities to impress the Big 12

The dying days of the SWC

 

[oaknightshockey1]

opinion.

As of right now, the odds are much greater that the Big 12 no longer exists than any of the others. One conference has history and stability in addition to a geographic monopoly on half the country, one has a ridiculously long GOR, and one is looking to the AAC to add members. Which one lasts?

 

[Goldbug]

Back from the Dead?

Back in 1996, TCU, Houston, SMU, and Rice were left to fend for themselves. TCU is back in, Houston is not far behind, and now SMU wants to play.

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SMU is pouring $150M into its facilities to impress the Big 12

The dying days of the SWC

I would take a resurgent SMU before I'd ever want to see some of the other candidates join the conference that they're considering. SMU has alums who are richer than 6" up a bull's ass. They would do whatever it took to get SMU up to a respectable level.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

As of right now, the odds are much greater that the Big 12 no longer exists than any of the others. One conference has history and stability in addition to a geographic monopoly on half the country, one has a ridiculously long GOR, and one is looking to the AAC to add members. Which one lasts?

Again, you're just making stuff up as you go. Follow the money, after all these GOR's and tv contracts are up whoever isn't bringing in the money will be the ones on the move.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

Again, you're just making stuff up as you go. Follow the money, after all these GOR's and tv contracts are up whoever isn't bringing in the money will be the ones on the move.

You're burying your head in the sand. The PAC isn't going anywhere, and the ACC GOR lasts a decade longer than the Big 12. Now it is possible that the Big 12 might extend theirs, but until that happens, they are on the chopping block.

 

[Deep Creek]

richer than 6" up a bull's ass

You have got to be a fellow hick!

 

[HuskerinBig10]

Again, you're just making stuff up as you go. Follow the money, after all these GOR's and tv contracts are up whoever isn't bringing in the money will be the ones on the move.

I agree about the money. but there are exceptions. The PAC 12 is so far over there that the PAC 12 will remain, even if they are not making money. The PAC 12 is very isolated.

The ACC, B1G, Big 12, SEC are all competing in the same sandbox, the Atlantic seaboard to the east side of the Rocky Mountains. The Canadian border to the Gulf of Mexico.

 

[Lance Armstrong]

You're burying your head in the sand. The PAC isn't going anywhere, and the ACC GOR lasts a decade longer than the Big 12. Now it is possible that the Big 12 might extend theirs, but until that happens, they are on the chopping block.

If the Pac 12 network suddenly takes off, then I'd agree about the Big 12. But Kansas state makes double the tier 3 money any pac school does right now, so you can go off msg board chatter and I'll base my opinion off of the money, we'll see who's right.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

If the Pac 12 network suddenly takes off, then I'd agree about the Big 12. But Kansas state makes double the tier 3 money any pac school does right now, so you can go off msg board chatter and I'll base my opinion off of the money, we'll see who's right.

You really think the PAC 12 is going away and the Big 12 will remain?

 

[Lance Armstrong]

You really think the PAC 12 is going away and the Big 12 will remain?

I just know money talks, that's why your school is in the B1G. You think USC is fine with the fact that Kansas state makes double what they do in tier 3 $$?

 

[Goldbug]

You have got to be a fellow hick!

I'm the son of an Oklahoma dirt farmer. Then I went to the big city and got educated far beyond my intelligence.

 

[Goldbug]

I just know money talks, that's why your school is in the B1G. You think USC is fine with the fact that Kansas state makes double what they do in tier 3 $$?

The other reason is Nebraska couldn't beat Texas in football. Tom Osborne and the Husker fans got the red ass over that situation and the ball just started rolling down hill from there.