Clippers may boycott

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

Not sure this is the smartest move to make but it at least would show them standing strong against helping Donald Sterling profit off of them.

Valid point

 

[Otis B. Driftwood]

A much stronger and more effective move (I've maintained this since day 1) would be for the sponsors to walk away. Players and coaches make a minimal impact and can be fined.

Sponsors make a way louder statement taking their funding.

 

[Captain Legacy]

A much stronger and more effective move (I've maintained this since day 1) would be for the sponsors to walk away. Players and coaches make a minimal impact and can be fined.

Sponsors make a way louder statement taking their funding.

I like the idea of the sponsors walking away but I haven't heard any rumblings about this yet. Seems like too much money is involved for real action to occur.

 

[Otis B. Driftwood]

I like the idea of the sponsors walking away but I haven't heard any rumblings about this yet. Seems like too much money is involved for real action to occur.

Gonna be real interesting if the season starts and Nike & Gatorade look at their marketing demographic and said demographic says they won't buy product if they support an organization with a known bigot front and center.

It's one thing for the local sponsors to pull out... but if the corporate sponsors tell the NBA they are pulling their discretionary dollars and cents, then the Association has a serious problem.

 

[GNG]

I like the idea of the sponsors walking away but I haven't heard any rumblings about this yet. Seems like too much money is involved for real action to occur.

The NBA is a business and it is no place for political correctness.

 

[DJ]

That is totally irrelevant and you're missing the point. If the Clippers organization boycotts the games, then so will the rest of the NBPA, and if that happens, then they will force the Stirling corporation to sell. The banks are already threatening to call in huge loans valued at 400 million and that would bring Stirling to his knees. He is not nearly as independently wealthy as Balmer. He cannot afford to see the players shut down the Clippers. Lawsuits after the fact would be irrelevant because the players will out live the old man. He won't live long enough to see his lawsuits take their time in the courts

Logic won't work on this thread.

 

[trojanfan12]

He's really not that smart, he just had good friends during college.

 

[trojanfan12]

Gonna be real interesting if the season starts and Nike & Gatorade look at their marketing demographic and said demographic says they won't buy product if they support an organization with a known bigot front and center.

It's one thing for the local sponsors to pull out... but if the corporate sponsors tell the NBA they are pulling their discretionary dollars and cents, then the Association has a serious problem.

These sponsors have known that the Clippers have a known bigot front and center since the 80's.

 

[Retroram52]

Sterling is a colossal screw-up and this may be the NBA's only chance to rid themselves of him but he is not leaving quietly and the whole affair will probably get ugly before its resolved.

 

[HammerDown]

These sponsors have known that the Clippers have a known bigot front and center since the 80's.

Everybody knew. Everybody. That's why this sudden outrage is just a little tough to swallow.

"I'm so hurt." - Magic

Bullshit, Magic.

 

[trojanfan12]

So let's see if I can boil this thread down to it's essence:


The Doobster: Steve Ballmer somehow managed to graduate magna cum laude from arguably the most prestigious university in the United States, if not the world and has amassed a $21 billion fortune despite his being a complete moron. The Clippers should be relegated to the D-League because they haven't won any championships and the Lakers have. Steve Ballmer is overpaying for the Clippers and has a lot of money because of his college friends.


Everybody else:

That about cover it?

 

[trojanfan12]

Everybody knew. Everybody. That's why this sudden outrage is just a little tough to swallow.

"I'm so hurt." - Magic

Bullshit, Magic.

 

[Kinzu]

Logic won't work on this thread.

Could the Clippers have boycotted a Playoff Game?

You guys should read this article. There are several reasons the players can not legally refuse to play without facing fines and suspensions. Which honestly I'm sure they would happily accept and pay to prove a point, but the damage it would cause to the players union with a new CBA upcoming is the reason they won't go through with one.

Sterling wouldn't even have to worry about suing the players for breach of contract. The other 29 owners would gladly do it for him to recover lost revenue and damages done.

 

[Kinzu]

Article XXX
ARTICLE XXX
NO-STRIKE AND NO-LOCKOUT PROVISIONS AND OTHER UNDERTAKINGS
Section 1.

No Strike.
During the term of this Agreement, neither the Players Association nor its members shall engage in any strikes, cessations or stoppages of work, or any other similar interference with the operations of the NBA or any of its Teams. Notwithstanding the foregoing, nothing in this Section 1 shall impair the rights accorded the Players Association by Article XXXIX,Section 3 (Termination by Players Association/Anti-Collusion) or Section6 (Mutual Right of Termination).

Section 2.

No Lockout.
During the term of this Agreement, neither the NBA nor its Teams shall engage in any lockouts, cessations or stoppages of work or any other similar interference with the employment of NBA players by NBA Teams.Notwithstanding the foregoing, nothing in this Section 2 shall impair the rights accorded the NBA by Article XXXIX, Section 4 (Termination by NBA/National TV Revenues), Section 5 (Termination by NBA/Force Majeure), or Section 6 (Mutual Right of Termination).

Section 3.

No Breach of Player Contracts.
The Players Association agrees that it will not engage in any concerted activities to breach, induce the breach of, or threaten to breach or induce the breach of, any Player Contract.

Section 4.

Best Efforts of Players Association.
The Players Association will use its best efforts:
(a) to prevent each player from rendering, or threatening to render, services as a professiona lbasketball player for another professional basketball team during the termof a Player Contract between such player and the Team for which he plays(except as said Player Contract may be assigned, sold, or transferred in accordance with the provisions of such Player Contract or this Agreement);
(b) to prevent each player from refusing, or threatening to refuse, to participate in any scheduled Exhibition game, Regular Season game, All-Star Game, Rookie-Sophomore Game, All-Star SkillsCompetition, or Playoff game;
(c) to prevent each player from refusing, or threatening to refuse, to report, within the time required, to a team in the NBA Development League (“NBADL”) when the player has been assigned to an NBADL Team in accordance with the provisions of this Agreement, and to prevent each such player from refusing, or threatening to refuse, to participate in any scheduled NBADL game;
(d) to prevent each player from otherwise breaching, or threatening to breach, his Player Contract; and
(e) to prevent each player from making any demand upon the NBA or any of its Teams, including, but not limited to, a demand(accompanied by threats that the player will render services as a professional basketball player for another professional basketball team during the term of his Player Contract) that such Player Contract be renegotiated during the term thereof; provided, however, that this provision is not intended to prevent any player from entering into negotiations with a Team, in accordance with Article VII, with respect tothe compensation to be paid to said player for the Season(s) following the last playing Season covered by any Player Contract, or renewal or extension thereof.

Section 5.

No Discrimination
Neither the NBA, any Team nor the Players Association shall discriminate in the interpretation or application of this Agreement against or in favor of any Player because of religion, race, national origin, sexual orientation or activity or lack of activity on behalf of the Players Agreement.

Hopefully that is some what readable. It did not copy-n-paste from the document to well. That is straight from the CBA the player's union signed off on. If they boycott any games over Sterling they are in violation of this. I really doubt the Union wants to face a legal battle with the owners over this so close to negotiations over a new CBA.

Anyone else find it funny this is actually called Article XXX?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Logic won't work on this thread.

It never has, but silly me had to try

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Could the Clippers have boycotted a Playoff Game?

You guys should read this article. There are several reasons the players can not legally refuse to play without facing fines and suspensions. Which honestly I'm sure they would happily accept and pay to prove a point, but the damage it would cause to the players union with a new CBA upcoming is the reason they won't go through with one.

Sterling wouldn't even have to worry about suing the players for breach of contract. The other 29 owners would gladly do it for him to recover lost revenue and damages done.

They could have boycotted the game and as a result, they would have been fined and perhaps even sued for breach of contract, but the damage to the players would have been far less than the damage to the Stirling family. I for one am glad that they didn't. The system works better when you as a normal person don't try to take the law(in this case the cba) into your own hands. Chris Paul and the players need to be patient and let the deal work itself out

 

[True Lakers Fan]

The NBA is a business and it is no place for political correctness.

I disagree - because in business, I have to be politically correct every day and it's a very good way for people to do business including those in the NBA. If I walk into the office of a company I am about to audit and start ranting politics, they are going to throw my ass out and report me. I say do the same to a-holes like DS

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Hopefully that is some what readable. It did not copy-n-paste from the document to well. That is straight from the CBA the player's union signed off on. If they boycott any games over Sterling they are in violation of this. I really doubt the Union wants to face a legal battle with the owners over this so close to negotiations over a new CBA.

Anyone else find it funny this is actually called Article XXX?

Totally irrelevant and a mute point for the same reason that the drivers used to strike when they drove for the Los Angeles Rapid Transit District that ran the entire bussing industry in Los Angeles County. The employees crippled the busses until those in charge did two things

Agreed to make concessions that both sides could live with

Absolved the union from their illegal strike and agreed not to sue them, or fire them and etc. This has worked because the average person will not cross a picket line. I sure wouldn't - not even to see a game.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

So let's see if I can boil this thread down to it's essence:


The Doobster: Steve Ballmer somehow managed to graduate magna cum laude from arguably the most prestigious university in the United States, if not the world and has amassed a $21 billion fortune despite his being a complete moron. The Clippers should be relegated to the D-League because they haven't won any championships and the Lakers have. Steve Ballmer is overpaying for the Clippers and has a lot of money because of his college friends.


Everybody else:

That about cover it?

Translation: Doobster took common sense and nuked it with a megaton bomb

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Everybody knew. Everybody. That's why this sudden outrage is just a little tough to swallow.

"I'm so hurt." - Magic

Bullshit, Magic.

It's not that there was a sudden outrage - I personally think that DS had so many enemies that hated his guts, that they pounced on the chance to destroy his ass and were gleefully dancing on his grave metaphorically speaking