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So two scrub Big XII twelve teams made the SEC better?

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um FYI per capita is data

Thank you for illustrating my point...very nicely done. No, it is not information, it is data. Your continued insistence that your data points are information is actually information...information I will use to continue to laugh at you.
 

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Thank you for illustrating my point...very nicely done. No, it is not information, it is data. Your continued insistence that your data points are information is actually information...information I will use to continue to laugh at you.

wtf is your problem.

have you never seen per capita used as a stat before????

it is indeed a form of data, how you can ever try to pull that off as being something other is beyond stupid

redneck stupid to be exact
 

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yeah, a perfect example of how to own a bammer

Ah, so that's what it is your jealous of the South's past of slavery, you're jealous of your own ability to actually own another person.

BTW...you are this thread's poster child for fail, but thanks for playing.
 

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Ah, so that's what it is your jealous of the South's past of slavery, you're jealous of your own ability to actually own another person.

BTW...you are this thread's poster child for fail, but thanks for playing.

and the bama fans on this thread are poster children for being overly butthurt.

i didnt even post a word and you guys got into a circle jerk over me so i just had to chime in

10 pages later........
 

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wtf is your problem.

have you never seen per capita used as a stat before????

it is indeed a form of data, how you can ever try to pull that off as being something other is beyond stupid

redneck stupid to be exact

Again...you keep calling it data and you are correct it is data. Your lapse in understanding is that data and information are not synonyms...I am sorry if that is too much for your tiny little brain to comprehend.

Not to confuse you, but stats are not information they are also data. I will stand back now while you churn the little gears in your head to wrap your gourd around that one.
 

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Again...you keep calling it data and you are correct it is data. Your lapse in understanding is that data and information are not synonyms...I am sorry if that is too much for your tiny little brain to comprehend.

Not to confuse you, but stats are not information they are also data. I will stand back now while you churn the little gears in your head to wrap your gourd around that one.

pretty much everything can be interpreted as information. if you wanna get all technical then use the term raw information ==> but stats of any kinda still account for raw information.

now as far this stupid little argument ==> this is your attempt to deflect from the very absurd notion that total stats are better than per capita stats
 

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jez you really are a dumb redneck. by now means am i calling out the fbi for tallying total murder rates. im just calling you a total fucken dumbass redneck because you honestly think that total stats should be used over per capita stats.

can you not see the logical faults to that at all????

*and then your reading comprehension was so bad that you actually thought i was calling the FBI rednecks. shit like this is why its so much better to have an argument with non-sec fans. they can actually hold their own against me intelligence wise

Where did I say that? i made a comment about Chicago that is a worldwide headline and you took it in a completely different direction to suit your needs. My comment still stands as true and i have not backed off of that due to that fact. I will not back off of it as it stands true and you cannot refute it based on the FBI stats and the way they were compiled. Please show me where I stated anything different.
 

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pretty much everything can be interpreted as information. if you wanna get all technical then use the term raw information ==> but stats of any kinda still account for raw information.

now as far this stupid little argument ==> this is your attempt to deflect from the very absurd notion that total stats are better than per capita stats

You don't even know who or what you are arguing about anymore. I made no such argument. But I will chime in now...as you so obviously miss the point. Total stats and raw stats could be either the correct data or incorrect data, depending on the CONTEXT. It says much about your intelligence when you fail to grasp even this elementary concept.

....and there is no such thing as raw information...there is raw data that can be turned into information, but claiming one is the same as the other shows the gap between your Knowledge and mine...you seem to think it is a subtle difference but for those of us that quit dragging our knuckles on the ground millions of years ago it is is profound.

Now go back and chase your tail around some more, it amuses me.
 

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wtf is your problem.

have you never seen per capita used as a stat before????

it is indeed a form of data, how you can ever try to pull that off as being something other is beyond stupid

redneck stupid to be exact
Technically, "per capita" is not a statistic ... it is a statistical methodology or one of many ways to express or quantify a statistic. Just saying.
 

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I'm sick and tired of hearing about these "scrub big 12 teams" coming in and doing so well in the SEC as proof the SEC isn't as good as people think.

Has either Texas A&M or Missouri reached the SEC title game yet? No.
Are they made up of the same players as what were in the Big 12? No.
Does anyone really think that Texas A&M wouldn't have won the Big 12 last season? After being soundly beaten by Oklahoma in 2011, they pounded them the following year. The teams were vastly different. They also played Arkansas in both seasons. After losing to them in 2011, A&M won 58-10 in 2012. Vastly. Different. Teams. Still, A&M was only good enough to finish 3rd in their own division of the SEC.

And let's not forget Missouri averaged nearly 10 wins a year in the Big 12 for their last 5 seasons there. They've beaten 1 ranked (depleted) SEC opponent in their first 2 seasons so far.

It's such a comical argument. If you really want to see the gulf between the Big 12 and SEC, why not take a look at the results of the cotton bowl over the last decade, since it tries to match up teams that finish in about the same spot in their respective conferences. The SEC has won 9, the Big 12 has won 1. And of course the only Big 12 win was by Missouri, who happens to be in the SEC now. Should I mention the multiple national title games that pitted SEC vs. Big 12? They all went to the SEC in case you were wondering.

The fact that the SEC has won 7 straight national titles in and of itself does not make it the best conference. But combined with the fact that's 4 different programs winning the hardware... and their glowing BCS and bowl record in recent memory, it's hard to argue that the SEC hasn't been the best.

I hear people complain that the SEC has no business having 8 ranked teams in the top 25. 6 obviously belong. Florida and Auburn are admittedly borderline (that's why they are in the 20s) and they will either prove themselves this weekend against ranked opponents, or drop out. People act like Florida and Auburn don't belong, but if you drop them out, who are you going to replace them with? Whoever you put up there has just as many (or more) holes in their resume as Auburn and Florida. Keep in mind, both Auburn and Florida have still yet to lose a game this season except to top 10 teams on the road.
 

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You don't even know who or what you are arguing about anymore. I made no such argument. But I will chime in now...as you so obviously miss the point. Total stats and raw stats could be either the correct data or incorrect data, depending on the CONTEXT. It says much about your intelligence when you fail to grasp even this elementary concept.

....and there is no such thing as raw information...there is raw data that can be turned into information, but claiming one is the same as the other shows the gap between your Knowledge and mine...you seem to think it is a subtle difference but for those of us that quit dragging our knuckles on the ground millions of years ago it is is profound.

Now go back and chase your tail around some more, it amuses me.

He so wants to prove that every southerner is racist that it eats at him. Its almost as if he has been rejected by a southern person in some way and he wants to get back at all of them for his shortcomings that caused his rejection. Its a laugh a minute with him.
 

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Technically, "per capita" is not a statistic ... it is a statistical methodology or one of many ways to express or quantify a statistic. Just saying.

that means 54.5 per 100k is indeed a stat
 

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And let's not forget Missouri averaged nearly 10 wins a year in the Big 12 for their last 5 seasons there. They've beaten 1 ranked (depleted) SEC opponent in their first 2 seasons so far.
In defense of Mizzou, they were about as beat up last year as UGa is now - not quite as much, but certainly close enough to explain last year's results. With the added allure of the SEC, Missouri is going to be much closer to the top of the conference, like it was in its last 5 years in the BigXII, than it will be to the bottom. Last year was an outlier year for Mizzou.
 

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Where did I say that? i made a comment about Chicago that is a worldwide headline and you took it in a completely different direction to suit your needs. My comment still stands as true and i have not backed off of that due to that fact. I will not back off of it as it stands true and you cannot refute it based on the FBI stats and the way they were compiled. Please show me where I stated anything different.

yeah i mean who cares if 3 major southern cities have higher murder rates.........

lol
 

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that means 54.5 per 100k is indeed a stat
I'm not getting into your stupid argument. But, "per capita" is not a statistic. In your example, whatever it is that is "54.5 per 100K" is your statistic ... expressing it "per capita" is just one of many ways it can be expressed. This can't be argued so STFU on this and continue on with your dumb argument with others.
 
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