Fuck Cousins, time to move on

[gkekoa]

2015Bucs game
2016 NYG game 1

 

[Stymietee]

Now...can he put the team on his back and take over a game? Carry us to victory when some of those things aren't helping him out?

Short answer is: NO

He not that type of QB, never was. I know that NFL QB's absolutely hate the label "Game manager" but truthfully in his entire career that's all that's been expected of him. I don't think that we will ever know if Kirk can take over games or not, because he's not the type to take major risks with what has always worked for him. That would be sort of like asking a bee to become an Hawk.

 

[Sportster 72]

KC managed the game well, made some nice throws, came through in the end when it counts, got some help on D and with the running game. I'll take it.

Now...can he put the team on his back and take over a game? Carry us to victory when some of those things aren't helping him out? That is where he has fell a bit short in the past. That is where the good and great QBs separate themselves.

I don't disagree that he isn't Brady or Rodgers ... oh shit, forgot each of them had a bad game in the 1st two weeks. Where do we get one of these carry a team on our back QBs??

Definition of AB KC. He did okay but he isn't all that. Cool, get me one of those carry a team on his back QBs. Didn't we trade half a team for one 6 years ago? Didn't we draft one in the early 90s? Surely they grow on trees.

 

[Sharkinva]

I don't disagree that he isn't Brady or Rodgers ... oh shit, forgot each of them had a bad game in the 1st two weeks. Where do we get one of these carry a team on our back QBs??

Definition of AB KC. He did okay but he isn't all that. Cool, get me one of those carry a team on his back QBs. Didn't we trade half a team for one 6 years ago? Didn't we draft one in the early 90s? Surely they grow on trees.

Didnt the Jackson Five make a song about this kind of thinking??

 

[skinsdad62]

classic ABC'er can he carry the team ? a debate no one who supports him ever makes . move the goal posts much ?

 

[Kevin12773]

Watching this lions/giants game. Stafford has 119 yards passing what a bum.KC laughs at his stats.

 

[Stymietee]

Watching this lions/giants game. Stafford has 119 yards passing what a bum.KC laughs at his stats.

 

[j_y19]

classic ABC'er can he carry the team ? a debate no one who supports him ever makes . move the goal posts much ?

Here is my question to the ABC's. What QB can carry the team all by himself? I don't think their is one. Brady is the closest but he has bad games and cannot always overcome poor play by his defense or running game.

 

[Kevin12773]

And he made a throw off his back foot... what a dick

 

[gkekoa]

Here is my question to the ABC's. What QB can carry the team all by himself? I don't think their is one. Brady is the closest but he has bad games and cannot always overcome poor play by his defense or running game.

Ummm...when has he overcome the rest of his team?

 

[Sleepy T]

Here is my question to the ABC's. What QB can carry the team all by himself? I don't think their is one. Brady is the closest but he has bad games and cannot always overcome poor play by his defense or running game.

Of course no QB can carry the team ALL by himself. My point is, our running game was good vs. LA. Our running game has

classic ABC'er can he carry the team ? a debate no one who supports him ever makes . move the goal posts much ?

Of course he can't carry the team ALL by himself. The rest of the team has to do something. But let's just wait and see how he responds when the defense isn't playing the Rams, or the opposing team is stuffing the box and forcing KC to beat them with his arm while bringing pressure every other play (to which he doesn't always respond very well). If he can overcome some of those situations, then and only then will I annoint him as anything other than a game manager.

And enough about losing his 2- 1000 yard receivers. Don't want to hear any bullshit excuses from you nut swingers. He has some weapons. Plenty of QBs do very well with equivalent talent, some do less with more/more with less. So stop making excuses for him already. You have an entire season for that.

 

[gkekoa]

Of course no QB can carry the team ALL by himself. My point is, our running game was good vs. LA. Our running game has


Of course he can't carry the team ALL by himself. The rest of the team has to do something. But let's just wait and see how he responds when the defense isn't playing the Rams, or the opposing team is stuffing the box and forcing KC to beat them with his arm while bringing pressure every other play (to which he doesn't always respond very well). If he can overcome some of those situations, then and only then will I annoint him as anything other than a game manager.

And enough about losing his 2- 1000 yard receivers. Don't want to hear any bullshit excuses from you nut swingers. He has some weapons. Plenty of QBs do very well with equivalent talent, some do less with more/more with less. So stop making excuses for him already. You have an entire season for that.

Actually KC is very good against the blitz. He is very poor under duress. Teams do not stuff the box against us because we are not a run threat. That is why we are seeing better coverage.

Losing his two, 1,000 yard receivers is large because while they were replaced with what I see as better talent, one of those guys hasn't really played and the other leads the league in drops, while neither has the timing down for this offense.

BTW, Aaron Rodgers got ass raped this last week.

 

[j_y19]

Of course no QB can carry the team ALL by himself. My point is, our running game was good vs. LA. Our running game has


Of course he can't carry the team ALL by himself. The rest of the team has to do something. But let's just wait and see how he responds when the defense isn't playing the Rams, or the opposing team is stuffing the box and forcing KC to beat them with his arm while bringing pressure every other play (to which he doesn't always respond very well). If he can overcome some of those situations, then and only then will I annoint him as anything other than a game manager.

And enough about losing his 2- 1000 yard receivers. Don't want to hear any bullshit excuses from you nut swingers. He has some weapons. Plenty of QBs do very well with equivalent talent, some do less with more/more with less. So stop making excuses for him already. You have an entire season for that.

Well, we have seen to date how he responds. He has played well and he has not played well. Pretty much like any other QB in the league. Does he need to be more consistent in this area? Absolutely. But its not like he has had no success. You might notice how I didn't say he won or lost. Because there are a few games where he did play well and the rest of the team let him down (Detroit and Cincy come to mind).

The question is can he get better in this area? I don't know. But I do feel quite confident that we bring a rookie in here and they will do worse than him for and extended period and may never reach his level of production. \

Finally, if you think that not having any wideouts that are producing at this time is not an issue, you are not being realistic.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Of course no QB can carry the team ALL by himself. My point is, our running game was good vs. LA. Our running game has


Of course he can't carry the team ALL by himself. The rest of the team has to do something. But let's just wait and see how he responds when the defense isn't playing the Rams, or the opposing team is stuffing the box and forcing KC to beat them with his arm while bringing pressure every other play (to which he doesn't always respond very well). If he can overcome some of those situations, then and only then will I annoint him as anything other than a game manager.

And enough about losing his 2- 1000 yard receivers. Don't want to hear any bullshit excuses from you nut swingers. He has some weapons. Plenty of QBs do very well with equivalent talent, some do less with more/more with less. So stop making excuses for him already. You have an entire season for that.

Reading a post like this it is quite obvious that you actually want Cousins to fail. Pretty sad. Jeez - they just won the freaking game - can you give it a rest for a minute? I guess that some supposed Redskins fans are only happy when the team is run in the manner that they see fit & with the type of players that they like. For me - I root for the team regardless.

Was I mad with Cousins at times on Sun? Absolutely. However - I will give him credit for when he did well & that incudes the game winning TD. I like him because he plays for the Redskins (just like I liked RG3 in 2012). If he goes elsewhere I won't really care about him. HTTR

 

[chillerdab]

Even though what you say is bullshit. Lets say everything you say above is true. So what? Joe Montana and Tom Brady, two of the greatest QBs in NFL history have gotten to the place where they are at by throwing short passes that allowed pass catchers to continue running after the catch.

It seems some of us refuse to be happy with a win, a great team win I might add. Unless the Redskins win in the way they deem appropriate.

Oh look, the other resident asshole thinks what I have to say is bullshit! How unexpected!

Did you REALLY think that restating the obvious "HOF qbs put wrs in the position to accumulate run-after-the-catch yards" was a point worth stating? That your comments moved the discussion further? That's sad for you, brah.

KC didn't play that well. It isn't that hard to admit. He hasn't played that well yet. We all want KC to be successful.

Also, especially for you Breed - painfully obvious cliched comments like "all qbs miss throws," and "Tom Brady missed a pass, should he be benched too," really don't need to be said because they are, stick with me - painfully obvious.

And also completely missing the point.

 

[chillerdab]

Based on your post Aaron Rodgers and Dak Prescott should be benched too. By the way I have been watching guys who are considered good QBs throw off their back foot all day. Is it optimal? No. Does it happen, yes. I noticed you forgot to mention the QB right in CT's hands with nothing but green that CT dropped. Cherry picking?

The one that bounced off of CT's hands was thrown without much touch. It was rifled into CT, and not a particularly easy ball to catch. Should CT have caught it? Absolutely! He looked upfield before securing the ball. Put let's not pretend that KC was sharp with his placement, accuracy, and touch. He hasn't been sharp yet this year.

 

[chillerdab]

Game plan. LA has great pass rushers but small guys. What some people know about football you couldn't fill a thimble with.

That's laughable.

I'm pretty sure that my football knowledge is at least as passable as yours, and definitely above average compared to some of the other idiots posting here.

Tell me, Mr. Walsh, did the redskins have a good game plan for the Eagles too? Did KC execute that game plan well?

oops.

 

[chillerdab]

As president of the Kirk Cousin's Redskin for Life Committee, he has not played well so far this year. He has been average. There are still 14 more games to go. Based on his last two years he deserves the money he got this year. He bet on himself. He wins or loses at the end of the year. Today he did what was necessary to win.

Last week he missed what could have been a go ahead TD, today he helped lead the winning drive and threw the winning TD. Still 14 games to go. Status undetermined.

Despite what the clowns on this message board drool onto their keyboards, THIS is exactly my point.

well said.

 

[chillerdab]

He played like shit at the end of last season and in game 1. We agree.

Is his OL great? I think you should look at how they performed down the stretch last season and early this season.

Were his weapons terrific last season or were his weapons good in this offense with this QB?

Is his TE elite? He is an elite pass catcher and a horrid blocker that is often injured, like now.

No, his play in the first two weeks of the season after losing two one thousand yard WRs ( never in the history of the game), lost his GM, lost his OC, and had to be subjected to BA having a conference calling his QB a greedy shit for not taking a low ball deal hasn't warranted 24 million dollars.

Poor baby. Only got himself $24 million to not win a playoff game, not be able to move past the boneheaded plays that prevent him from getting a multi-year deal, and not surrounded by some of his favorite bosses and weapons. Life must suck for KC. Maybe we should make sure KC is in the right mental frame of mind by offering him another free pass for his sub-par play this week? Certainly, we shouldn't expect KC to suck it up and play like a franchise qb yet. I mean, he lost his offensive coordinator for fuck's sake!!

Let's try the other side of the coin for a second, mmmmmkay? Let's look at all that KC DOES have going for him:

a huge 1,000yd wr.
a gifted pass catching te and depth behind him
an undisputed top 10 Oline with depth
a "quarterbacks" head coach.
depth at rb that are at the least, average
a fantastic slot wr (crowder) who is too fast to be covered by lbs, and too shifty to be covered by many dbs
no qb competition
and now, at the very least, a defense that is not swiss cheese.

I'd say that life is pretty damn good for KC right now. I'd say that he ought to thank his lucky fucking stars for being with the redskins, and that there aren't that many other teams that can say the same.

I'd say that KC needs to preform better.

 

[chillerdab]

Carr carries the raiders by himself, or at least he did last year.
Rodgers carries the team by himself.
Russel Wilson carries the team by himself.
Brady can carry the team by himself, but he doesnt have to because Belicheck is a fucking jedi.
Brees carries the team by himself.
Flacco carries the team by himself (won a superbowl, he did. No running game for the 2-0 ravens)
Luck, when healthy carries the team by himself.
Stafford definitely carries the team by himself.

Carr last year for sure, Rodgers, Brees, Stafford, Wilson are definites
Brady and Luck are definites too.
Flacco has carried the team by himself to a super bowl.

That's 1/3 of the league.