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Kyrie Requests Trade from Cavs.

LogicMan

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I disagree. He thinks the Earth is flat. So how smart can he really be?

Yeah you have a point.....................
 

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Not quite. True they didn't get along, but Shaq didn't force a trade because of Kobe. He wanted out because Buss wouldn't max him out. Not same, same my friend.

And, :lol: at Smush Parker.

Maybe someday Kyrie & Lebron will have their own Wiki page about their relationship ... like the "Shaq/Kobe Feud" does.
 

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If Cavs swap Kyrie for Bledsoe and a rookie, who is the favorite to come out of the East?
 

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Smush Parker

Also, there was a guy named Shaq, who you might have heard of who didn't get along with Kobe. So it wasn't necessarily Shaq who requested the trade, but more Kobe demanded Shaq be traded. So which is worse?

Smush Parker?!? Seriously? :pound:

That guy named Shaq left over money, not Kobe. That's comes from Shaq himself and he has stated it many times over the years. Really can't make it anymore clear than "I left because of money. Kobe had nothing to do with why I left the Lakers."

Here is what really happened. Shaq was getting old and starting to decline. He was also notoriously lazy in the off-season and would show up to training camp overweight and out of shape every year saying that he would "play his way into shape." He also refused to take care of nagging injuries/minor surgeries in the off season saying "I got hurt on company time. I'm gonna heal on company time."

Kobe, on the other hand, was young, just entering his prime and spent virtually all of every off season working on his game and staying in shape.

Both of their contracts were coming up and Dr. Buss was only willing to max one of them. He chose Kobe. This pissed Shaq off and started the feud with Dr. Buss over money. It's very likely that Dr. Buss would have worked something out to keep Shaq happy. However, Shaq decided, after dunking in a pre-season game, to yell "You gonna pay me now" at Dr. Buss who was in the stands. That was the moment that the decision to trade Shaq was made by Dr. Buss.

The Shaq/Kobe feud was real, but it was over who should be the team leader. Had Shaq's contract not been an issue, any feud between Shaq and Kobe would have been worked out well enough for them to continue to play together.

After making the decision to trade Shaq, Dr. Buss called Kobe into his office. He told him what he had decided and also told him that, while he would do what he could to prevent it, it's was very likely that, because of their feud, Kobe would be blamed for the trade.

Looks like Dr. Buss was a bit of a prophet.
 

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Kyrie is applying leverage at the right time in his career. I think the dude is smart

Me too. Who's to say he hasn't learned from LeBron the last few seasons? And he's clutch. He's had some good playoffs over the last 3 years.
 

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He's not the same player as before James returned.
 

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Smush Parker?!? Seriously? :pound:

That guy named Shaq left over money, not Kobe. That's comes from Shaq himself and he has stated it many times over the years. Really can't make it anymore clear than "I left because of money. Kobe had nothing to do with why I left the Lakers."

Here is what really happened. Shaq was getting old and starting to decline. He was also notoriously lazy in the off-season and would show up to training camp overweight and out of shape every year saying that he would "play his way into shape." He also refused to take care of nagging injuries/minor surgeries in the off season saying "I got hurt on company time. I'm gonna heal on company time."

Kobe, on the other hand, was young, just entering his prime and spent virtually all of every off season working on his game and staying in shape.

Both of their contracts were coming up and Dr. Buss was only willing to max one of them. He chose Kobe. This pissed Shaq off and started the feud with Dr. Buss over money. It's very likely that Dr. Buss would have worked something out to keep Shaq happy. However, Shaq decided, after dunking in a pre-season game, to yell "You gonna pay me now" at Dr. Buss who was in the stands. That was the moment that the decision to trade Shaq was made by Dr. Buss.

The Shaq/Kobe feud was real, but it was over who should be the team leader. Had Shaq's contract not been an issue, any feud between Shaq and Kobe would have been worked out well enough for them to continue to play together.

After making the decision to trade Shaq, Dr. Buss called Kobe into his office. He told him what he had decided and also told him that, while he would do what he could to prevent it, it's was very likely that, because of their feud, Kobe would be blamed for the trade.

Looks like Dr. Buss was a bit of a prophet.

I was being facetious naming Parker. Obviously there's a huge difference between the two situations, but Smush Parker always comes to mind when it's teammates and Kobe.

I also know the deal about Shaq, but I'm a total Kobe hater and couldn't resist throwing in a jab there. That's why LAD didn't go too hard on my post, I think.
 

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I was being facetious naming Parker. Obviously there's a huge difference between the two situations, but Smush Parker always comes to mind when it's teammates and Kobe.

I also know the deal about Shaq, but I'm a total Kobe hater and couldn't resist throwing in a jab there. That's why LAD didn't go too hard on my post, I think.

Hey, I'm no Kobe fan either (but was a huge Shaq fan and even bigger Dr. Buss fan) and would love to be able to blame him for Shaq leaving. Unfortunately, that was a Shaq/Dr. Buss thing, so I can't blame anyone but those 2. lol
 
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