A Fair and Honest Evaluation of Alabama's Schedule

[4down20]

Whats hilarious is the the highest ranked teams Alabama played were Clemson, USC and Washington. Not any other SEC team was higher than three PAC teams. By not playing each other (Alabama has scheduled Georgia 2 times in almost ten years) and loading up on Mercers and Towsends the SEC artificially inflates their records and thus artificial strength of schedule because They play each other.<<<< thats the whole reason.
SEC east was historically crap , the west was Alabama and a bunch of teams who would have had issues being bowl eligible if not for the tray full of cupcakes.

The stats I use do not count FCS opponents, which means absolutely nothing was gained by playing them when it comes to measuring team strength. When it comes to SoS, they count for absolutely nothing, so teams are in effect punished for playing them.

And beleive it or not, even with Alabama being on USC's schedule, it wasn't enough to put your SoS's above Alabama's. Turns out, that game counts for both teams, although you seem to ignore that.

Not that any of this is going to matter, because you're too stupid to understand real stats, and probably wouldn't even give a fuck if you could understand them.

Now please cite 10% of the schedule as if it's an accurate description, and say it over and over between yourself and the other butthurt people.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Maybe you should take that Bama beat two of the top 3 teams from the PAC 12 by an overwhelming margin. A group who is touting heir 9 game conference schedule as making them a tougher conference, yet they got slayed in head to head competition by the top team in a conference they claim is weaker because they only play 8 games in conference.

If the games had been close, I could yield a bit, but I am seeing no proof that playing that supposedly togher schedule is yielding better quality teams. Seems like both got their asses handed to them handily in hed to head competition.

When the rest of the SEC joins Nick in wanting a 9 game in conference schedule, the SEC will get what Nick has been voting yes for now for several years.

Maybe not a tougher conference, sure but I really don't see them touting their conference as tougher. They are touting their schedule. I think we'd all agree that most the teams in P5 are better than most in the G5. Granted there are a few exceptions, but overall it's a large number better for P5. That's what they are saying. We schedule tougher. Whether that sticks or not I'm 50/50 but it certainly can't hurt playing an extra P5 in most cases.

You guys attacking that 9 game schedule is hilarious because it's not like you are scheduling two P5's, it's one, an FCS and two G5's. Thats all fine and dandy but don't act like your schedule is the toughest because of "SEC" when a quarter of your schedule (at least) is a joke.

 

[jon2tanman]

The stats I use do not count FCS opponents, which means absolutely nothing was gained by playing them when it comes to measuring team strength. When it comes to SoS, they count for absolutely nothing, so teams are in effect punished for playing them.

And beleive it or not, even with Alabama being on USC's schedule, it wasn't enough to put your SoS's above Alabama's. Turns out, that game counts for both teams, although you seem to ignore that.

Not that any of this is going to matter, because you're too stupid to understand real stats, and probably wouldn't even give a fuck if you could understand them.

Now please cite 10% of the schedule as if it's an accurate description, and say it over and over between yourself and the other butthurt people.

A few pages back, you said that FCS opponents lower a teams SOS. So which is it? Either way, if a team plays an FCS school it should count towards the SOS in a negative rating.

 

[outofyourmind]

I wonder how many more threads we are going to get about the team that played the toughest schedule in all of college football last year because of 1 or 2 games on a 12 game schedule.

The only conference more pathetic than the Pac12 is the Big12.

Jesus Fuck
It's a spoof thread.

 

[4down20]

A few pages back, you said that FCS opponents lower a teams SOS. So which is it? Either way, if a team plays an FCS school it should count towards the SOS in a negative rating.

What the fuck do you mean which way is it?

I say "lower" in 1 paragraph and "punished for it" in another paragraph and you somehow think I'm talking about 2 different things?

It's not complicated.

When you play a schedule, every team you play has a "strength" to them. Alabama is obviously a stronger team than New Mexico state.

So when you play Alabama on your schedule, you get higher "points" for playing them, and you get lower points for playing New Mexico St.

So in the end, if you play a bunch of Alabama's on your schedule, you'll have a tougher schedule than New Mexico St.

With me so far? Pretty easy.

When it comes to FCS teams, you get 0 strength points for them. NONE, the lowest possible score. The contribute nothing, it's like the game didn't exist at all. It adds nothing.

But if that game was any FBS team, you would get some value out of it. Of course, don't expect a huge gap if your other game is New Mexico St.

So playing FCS teams instead of FBS teams lowers your SoS, and teams are in effect punished for them.

------Going further------

The games also do not count towards the teams strength in the FEI or S&P. So there is no artifical team strength gain from those teams either. Again, it's like the game didn't exist.

So in the stats I quote, there is absolutely NO benefit to playing FCS teams, and any team that plays a FBS team instead of a FCS team is rewarded for doing so.

 

[4down20]

Jesus Fuck
It's a spoof thread.

Really? Because it looks like the 2nd or 3rd let's cry about who Alabama schedules thread to me, with the same fucking people as usual saying the same damn things as usual.

 

[outofyourmind]

Really? Because it looks like the 2nd or 3rd let's cry about who Alabama schedules thread to me, with the same fucking people as usual saying the same damn things as usual.

Dude
You need to keep up.

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Taking a hard look at the Southern Cal 2017 Schedule/are you fucking kidding me.

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[4down20]

Dude
You need to keep up.

A fair and honest evaluation of the 2017 West Virginia Schedule.

2017 Nebraska Cornhuskers Schedule w/honest opinion/analysis/perspective

Oklahoma 2017 schedule/predictions/with commentary!!!

Taking a hard look at the Southern Cal 2017 Schedule/are you fucking kidding me.

A Critical Look at the 2017 Washington Schedule/with predictions en sech

I saw all those threads, posted in a couple.

It's not the first Alabama schedule thread though, and the content is still the same.

Anyone talking about the FSU game?

How about LSU or Auburn games?

Any other fucking game except the FCS game, or the number of conference games?

Nope.

 

[Wamu]

The ghost of Lane Kiffin will haunt Saban & the Tide all season long.

 

[4down20]

The ghost of Lane Kiffin will haunt Saban & the Tide all season long.

Saban called Kiffin dumb.

Nick Saban, Lane Kiffin Sideline Shouting Match Detailed in New Alabama Book

5 things we learned from Phil Savage's upcoming book on Nick Saban

Saban and Kiffin's shouting match in the final moments of a 38-10 win over Western Kentucky in September 2016 was caught on camera and became a viral moment. Neither Saban nor Kiffin said publicly what caused the dustup, which occurred after a careless Alabama fumble led to a Western Kentucky touchdown in garbage time. Savage writes that Kiffin said into his headset "dumb players make dumb plays," which all the Crimson Tide coaches heard. Saban snapped back with "no, dumb offensive coordinators call dumb plays." There were probably a few expletives left out.

 

[ralphiewvu]

If 9 game schedules were so important, why aren't G5 conferences ahead of the SEC?

I'll give you a hint - because it doesn't mean shit when it's a bunch of crappy ass teams like Pac12 and Big12.

Are you suggesting G5's are better then P5's overall?? BAHAHAHA I advise you to take your medication.

No matter how much you want to deny it you are basically saying those sun belt and Mac opponents are better then mighty SEC schools. But hey who knows, you might not be far off considering you'd get someone from the SECeast.

 

[4down20]

Are you suggesting G5's are better then P5's overall?? BAHAHAHA I advise you to take your medication.

No matter how much you want to deny it you are basically saying those sun belt and Mac opponents are better then mighty SEC schools. But hey who knows, you might not be far off considering you'd get someone from the SECeast.

No, I'm saying most of the Big12 and Pac12 are closer to those Sun belt and Mac opponents.

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[Wamu]

I saw all those threads, posted in a couple.

It's not the first Alabama schedule thread though, and the content is still the same.

Anyone talking about the FSU game?

How about LSU or Auburn games?

Any other fucking game except the FCS game, or the number of conference games?

Nope.

Okay I'll talk about Bama's schedule & not talk about that absurd cupcake they play the week before the Auburn game. Time to focus on some of the conference schedule. I can see Bama sleeping through the Vandy game & the Commodores pulling off the upset. Saban won't have his team ready for this important conference clash.

Tennessee will be sneaky good this year & will erase a 17 point late 3rd quarter deficit to stun Bama 37-34 w/ a 68 yard field goal as time expires. After that loss Nick will fire his entire coaching staff. Good thing they gotta week off after the Tennessee game. But that still won be enough time to get ready for LSU.

The Tigers will roll into Tuscaloosa & bitch slap the Tide 47-27. The following week Saban gets his Crew back on track & they will put a 59-10 ass whoopin' on the Bulldogs. And then there's the Auburn game. Jordan-Hare Stadium will be jumpin' for this epic match up & the Tigers will dominate from start to finish. The Tide will keep the game close in the 1st half but Auburns offense will explode in the 3rd quarter putting the game outta reach by scoring 28 points. Final score: Tigers- 48 / Tide- 33.

 

[4down20]

#110 Kansas 1-10
#106 Arizona 2-9
#90 Arizona State 4-7
#83 Oregon 3-8
#80 Iowa State 3-8
#74 Oregon State 3-8
#72 California 5-7
#65 Texas Tech 4-7
#60 UCLA 4-8

etc.

Alabama g5 Opponents:

#13 Western Kentucky 10-3
#99 Kent St

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Maybe not a tougher conference, sure but I really don't see them touting their conference as tougher. They are touting their schedule. I think we'd all agree that most the teams in P5 are better than most in the G5. Granted there are a few exceptions, but overall it's a large number better for P5. That's what they are saying. We schedule tougher. Whether that sticks or not I'm 50/50 but it certainly can't hurt playing an extra P5 in most cases.

You guys attacking that 9 game schedule is hilarious because it's not like you are scheduling two P5's, it's one, an FCS and two G5's. Thats all fine and dandy but don't act like your schedule is the toughest because of "SEC" when a quarter of your schedule (at least) is a joke.

I dont concern myself with the rest of the SEC, only Alabama. This is why my argument has been geared towards what Bama did in head to head against two of the top 3 from the PAC 12. Bama plays what is on their schedule and I have stated before, some games I could live without, but I know why they are played. Georgia St a few years back was because Bill Curry asked for games to build their program and gain exposure for a run to FBS level, they got the games and movec to FBS Level.

I hear Chattanooga St is doing so as well. This is why we have played them a few times recently.

With Bama playing a top school in P5 each year to start the Season, I see no need to do more until all teams wanna change the rules that P5 plays only P5, or the SEC yields to Sabans plans to move to a 9 game in conference schedule. Both of which Saban has been on record for doing.

 

[4down20]

Okay I'll talk about Bama's schedule & not talk about that absurd cupcake they play the week before the Auburn game. Time to focus on some of the conference schedule. I can see Bama sleeping through the Vandy game & the Commodores pulling off the upset. Saban won't have his team ready for this important conference clash.

Tennessee will be sneaky good this year & will erase a 17 point late 3rd quarter deficit to stun Bama 37-34 w/ a 68 yard field goal as time expires. After that loss Nick will fire his entire coaching staff. Good thing they gotta week off after the Tennessee game. But that still won be enough time to get ready for LSU.

The Tigers will roll into Tuscaloosa & bitch slap the Tide 47-27. The following week Saban gets his Crew back on track & they will put a 59-10 ass whoopin' on the Bulldogs. And then there's the Auburn game. Jordan-Hare Stadium will be jumpin' for this epic match up & the Tigers will dominate from start to finish. The Tide will keep the game close in the 1st half but Auburns offense will explode in the 3rd quarter putting the game outta reach by scoring 28 points. Final score: Tigers- 48 / Tide- 33.

As long as we don't go 3-8 I'm cool.

 

[jon2tanman]

FCS should lower strength of schedule. Your reply...

It does.

When it comes to FCS teams, you get 0 strength points for them. NONE, the lowest possible score. The contribute nothing, it's like the game didn't exist at all. It adds nothing.

SO again which is it? Don't get butthurt, it's not rocket science.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Jesus Fuck
It's a spoof thread.

Shhhhhhh

 

[4down20]

FCS should lower strength of schedule. Your reply...

SO again which is it? Don't get butthurt, it's not rocket science.

Alabama gets 1000 bonus points for playing FCS schools every year, and everyone else gets nothing.

Happy now?

 

[4down20]

Shhhhhhh

It's kind of funny how fans of other teams have come to hate Alabama worse than Auburn fans.