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Zach Greinke HOF material?

richig07

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Most of the stories about Ty Cobb were fabricated or altered by a jaded journalist. He wasn't a saint, but he wasn't near the asshole people tend to think he was.

And just like all revisionist history...

Not nearly as many stories about Cobb were exaggerated/fabricated as people have now been led to believe.

The truth is somewhere in the middle of both extremes. Meaning, he was still a terrible person. Just not quite Satan in human form.
 

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And just like all revisionist history...

Not nearly as many stories about Cobb were exaggerated/fabricated as people have now been led to believe.

The truth is somewhere in the middle of both extremes. Meaning, he was still a terrible person. Just not quite Satan in human form.

He was definitely no saint, I said that, but he wasn't a monster either.
 

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He was definitely no saint, I said that, but he wasn't a monster either.

Eh... People don't just get unanimous reputations as being horrific pieces of shit out of nowhere. I think it's a little more than "not a saint". lol. That still implies "Okay guy with some flaws".
 

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He was definitely no saint, I said that, but he wasn't a monster either.

Depends on your definition of "monster".

Beating up a guy with no hands makes him at the very least a complete and total pussy. I don't care what the guy said to him or if his buddies were egging him on, you don't kick a guy's ass that's virtually incapable of fighting back. That lowers you as a human being.
 

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Depends on your definition of "monster".

Beating up a guy with no hands makes him at the very least a complete and total pussy. I don't care what the guy said to him or if his buddies were egging him on, you don't kick a guy's ass that's virtually incapable of fighting back. That lowers you as a human being.

Pretty sure that was fake news.
 

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What a career he's had. A look at Greinke throughout the years:

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I'm sure Carlos Quentin found a way to get hit by a pitch today, even in retirement.
I’ll never forget when he was probably going to win an MVP as a member of the White Sox, then decided one night to slam his wrist on his bat after Cliff Lee struck him out, ending his season.
 

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I’ll never forget when he was probably going to win an MVP as a member of the White Sox, then decided one night to slam his wrist on his bat after Cliff Lee struck him out, ending his season.

It's a shame he could never stay healthy. He had two really good half seasons in San Diego, but that's exactly what they were... half seasons.

Pretty amazing that he led his league in HBPs two years in a row despite failing to play even 120 games either year (86 in 2012).
 
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