Your 2016 Gold Glove Winners

[The Derski]

Gold Glove winners announced

Catcher
NL: Buster Posey, Giants (1st Gold Glove)
AL: Salvador Perez, Royals (4th Gold Glove)

First base
NL: Anthony Rizzo, Cubs (1st Gold Glove)
AL: Mitch Moreland, Rangers (1st Gold Glove)

Second base
NL: Joe Panik, Giants (1st Gold Glove)
AL: Ian Kinsler, Tigers (1st Gold Glove)

Third base
NL: Nolan Arenado, Rockies (4th Gold Glove)
AL: Adrian Beltre, Rangers (5th Gold Glove)

Shortstop
NL: Brandon Crawford, Giants (2nd Gold Glove)
AL: Francisco Lindor, Indians (1st Gold Glove)

Left field
NL: Starling Marte, Pirates (2nd Gold Glove)
AL: Brett Gardner, Yankees (1st Gold Glove)

Center field
NL: Ender Inciarte, Braves (1st Gold Glove)
AL: Kevin Kiermaier, Rays (2nd Gold Glove)

Right field
NL: Jason Heyward, Cubs (4th Gold Glove)
AL: Mookie Betts, Red Sox (1st Gold Glove)

Pitcher
NL: Zack Greinke, D-backs (3rd Gold Glove)
AL: Dallas Keuchel, Astros (3rd Gold Glove)

 

[The Derski]

Guess no one cares about GG's. Lol

 

[The Derski]

Is Nolan the most under appreciated player in terms of national recognition? Regardless of the Coors factor the dude can hit and iMO the best defensive infielder in baseball.

 

[calsnowskier]

Is Nolan the most under appreciated player in terms of national recognition? Regardless of the Coors factor the dude can hit and iMO the best defensive infielder in baseball.

I don't know that he is under-appreciated. If I could have my choice between him and Bryant, I would have to think long and hard about who to take. Dude is an absolute beast.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I don't know that he is under-appreciated. If I could have my choice between him and Bryant, I would have to think long and hard about who to take. Dude is an absolute beast.

It wouldn't take me long at all. I would take Arenado without a doubt. 3 GG's in only 4 years in the league, only a year older than Bryant and he is a better all-around player and has much more discipline at the plate. Both great but all-around it is an easy choice.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Is Nolan the most under appreciated player in terms of national recognition? Regardless of the Coors factor the dude can hit and iMO the best defensive infielder in baseball.

Unfortunately the Coors Factor is always gonna quiet the national hype...Especially when you get a player like Tulo, who was the last to get major hype, crash hard after he leaves there

But with that said, I think Arenado is a legit superstar anywhere he plays

 

[Great Dayne]

Guess no one cares about GG's. Lol

Meh, I'm waiting for the real awards to come out. Hopefully they're out before Thanksgiving because this is way too long to wait. I posted a thread like 2-3 months ago that Hendricks will be the Cy winner and Bryant will be the MVP. I took a lot of heat for it but now I might be right.

 

[Cedrique]

Guess no one cares about GG's. Lol

For me they became irrelevant about 10 years ago when I showed up early to a Phillies game and got to see Bobby Abreu presented with his Gold Glove.

Yes, I said Bobby freaking Abreu. You can look it up....

 

[navamind]

It wouldn't take me long at all. I would take Arenado without a doubt. 3 GG's in only 4 years in the league, only a year older than Bryant and he is a better all-around player and has much more discipline at the plate. Both great but all-around it is an easy choice.

Bryant: .292/.385/.554, 149 wRC+
Arenado: .294/.362/.570, 124 wRC+

The stat lines are comparable until you account for their ballparks (see wRC+). It really isn't even close. Arenado strikes out less, but Bryant's only played two seasons in the majors. He's already cut his K% down from 30.6% to 22%. Arenado might be a better defender, but Bryant still rates as an above average defender. I don't think that defense makes up for the offensive gap.

And even though Bryant isn't much of a base stealer, he grades as an excellent baserunner (7.3 BsR, 6th in MLB per Fangraphs) while Arenado rates as a below average baserunner (-1.1). There's also the matter of GIDPs... Bryant hit into only three of them. That's insane, especially for someone who bats where he does in the lineup. Arenado hit into 17 this year.

Put all of that together and WAR has him about three full wins above Arenado.

 

[navamind]

Pretty reasonable selection this year. Doesn't really seem to be any glaring omissions IMO, but it is a pretty trivial award.

AL East is full of stud defensive outfielders. Pillar, Kiermaier, JBJ, Betts, and Gardner. Hicks and Souza are also pretty solid.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

No Robbie Grossman???

 

[navamind]

No Robbie Grossman???

He's no Delmon Young, that's for sure.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

He's no Delmon Young, that's for sure.

Yeah, Delmon at least had a strong arm.

 

[DHoey]

Jason Heyward????

I didn't know that they gave GG's to 4th outfielders

 

[Shanemansj13]

Bryant: .292/.385/.554, 149 wRC+
Arenado: .294/.362/.570, 124 wRC+

The stat lines are comparable until you account for their ballparks (see wRC+). It really isn't even close. Arenado strikes out less, but Bryant's only played two seasons in the majors. He's already cut his K% down from 30.6% to 22%. Arenado might be a better defender, but Bryant still rates as an above average defender. I don't think that defense makes up for the offensive gap.

And even though Bryant isn't much of a base stealer, he grades as an excellent baserunner (7.3 BsR, 6th in MLB per Fangraphs) while Arenado rates as a below average baserunner (-1.1). There's also the matter of GIDPs... Bryant hit into only three of them. That's insane, especially for someone who bats where he does in the lineup. Arenado hit into 17 this year.

Put all of that together and WAR has him about three full wins above Arenado.

The offensive gap doesn't favor Bryant though, they essentially equals except Nolan strikeouts much less and drives in more runs (I know hitters ballpark but that is still half the games). I will still take Nolan overall as a player, can't go wrong with either though.

 

[navamind]

The offensive gap doesn't favor Bryant though, they essentially equals except Nolan strikeouts much less and drives in more runs (I know hitters ballpark but that is still half the games). I will still take Nolan overall as a player, can't go wrong with either though.

Strikeouts mean nothing in regards to their actual production. Those K's account for only 22% of his plate appearances. Even with more strikeouts, Bryant still produced a much better OBP and comparable power numbers. The most important thing you can do at the plate is not make an out.

And it's 81 of 162 games... that's a lot. Especially when Coors is a lot more favorable to offense than Wrigley is.

 

[navamind]

Jason Heyward????

I didn't know that they gave GG's to 4th outfielders

He's rated as one of the top defensive players over the last decade and has already won several Gold Gloves, but OK. Offense should have nothing to do whatsoever with a defensive award.

 

[Villain]

Guess no one cares about GG's. Lol

They're really dumb.

 

[tducey]

Congrats to all the winners.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

As a Cubs fan, I was a little surprised that Rizzo won the GG at first but Russell did not win it at short. In my opinion, Russell is our best defensive player...