Wow! Leonard Fournette won't play Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl

[DJ Fieri]

If he slipped to 2nd round where we were drafting? Fuck yes. I'd select him and have him and Murray battle it out for the starting job.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Perfect guy to enter the discussion.

Thanks for the compliment.

 

[Clayton]

No. Here's why......we don't need to spend our first rounder on a RB. We need to spend it on a defender, either a CB, DL or a S. Murray is a decent RB and we have Washington and Richard who are nice scatback types.

Murray is a legit top 10 running back as far as I can tell. Id imagine a team like Oakland would trade the pick if Fournette was somehow still up.

 

[HuskerOC]

I would take him on the Chiefs and RB probably isnt a top 3 need.

The 2 differences between him and Clowney is that

1) Clowney was legitimately challenged by Khalil Mack and Fournette should be the clear #1 RB.
2) RB just isnt as valuable as an edge rusher

But definitely a 1st round pick.

Fournette is far from being the clear #1 RB.

D'Onta Foreman and Dalvin Cook are certainly very solid options for teams.

 

[963BUSC]

No. Here's why......we don't need to spend our first rounder on a RB. We need to spend it on a defender, either a CB, DL or a S. Murray is a decent RB and we have Washington and Richard who are nice scatback types.

I wouldn't spend a first round pick on a running back in the NFL anymore. They just aren't the game changes they once were, and few last long enough to warrant a #1 draft choice.

 

[HuskerOC]

Murray is a legit top 10 running back as far as I can tell. Id imagine a team like Oakland would trade the pick if Fournette was somehow still up.

Latavius Murray is a middle of the road RB that will do his job. He'll never make a difference, and he certainly won't change games in W or L fashion in the NFL There are 50 guys just like Latavius in the league.

Plug Fournette, Foreman, or Cook into the Raider offense, along with Khalil Mack on D, and who cares what happens when you score 33+ a game?

 

[HuskerOC]

I wouldn't spend a first round pick on a running back in the NFL anymore. They just aren't the game changes they once were, and few last long enough to warrant a #1 draft choice.

Tell that to Dallas.

 

[cmc_rebar]

10 years from now we will hear about him cleaning toilets at his high school

 

[DJ Fieri]

I wouldn't spend a first round pick on a running back in the NFL anymore. They just aren't the game changes they once were, and few last long enough to warrant a #1 draft choice.

Mr Elliott disagrees with this vehemently.

 

[Clayton]

Latavius Murray is a middle of the road RB that will do his job.

Footballoutsiders has him ranked 3rd, 6th or 8th in the league right now depending on which metric you want to use. He certainly passes the eyeball test, too.

Fournette is far from being the clear #1 RB.

D'Onta Foreman and Dalvin Cook are certainly very solid options for teams.

Alvin Karmara might be pretty good, too. McCaffrey has a shot as well.

Its a very good running back draft but I do think Fournette is picked at least 10 spots before the next RB.

 

[Edonidd]

I've seen guys with all sorts of talent, who are only in it for the money. They stink for a while, have a decent season a year ahead of time, have a career year when they are going to be a FA, and then disappear again. I've also seen guys who weren't that talented but wanted to play and wanted to win more than the other guys. They're the guys leading teams to the playoffs every year.

Maybe RB is different, because you don't get better, nobody learns and turns them self into a great player. It tends to be a position where you're born with it, or you're not. And Fournette was born with it.

So I can see both sides of it, but I sure as hell won't be excited for him.

 

[The Oldtimer]

Unless the Packers draft this kid it's going to be very hard to root for him at the next level.

Isn't Fournette injury prone? I hope he gets drafted by a team with a good O-line.

 

[The Derski]

Isn't Fournette injury prone? I hope he gets drafted by a team with a good O-line.

The Packers o line has been in the top third of the league this season. I just look forward to the NFL humbling his ass.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Murray is a legit top 10 running back as far as I can tell. Id imagine a team like Oakland would trade the pick if Fournette was somehow still up.

I'd rank him around 10-12 in the league. He's a decent enough player but he gets nicked up and he should be posting better numbers behind our really good OL.

His numbers:

656 yards (20th)
4.0ypc (21st)
59.6ypg (19th)
47 FD's (10th)
12 TD's (tied for 2nd)

He has just 3 carries of 20-plus yards. He has a lot of TD's so that's a plus but he's really not that great at all. Less than 60ypg, a pedestrian 4ypc, and under 1,000 yards. I like him but really wouldn't mind us upgrading at the position but not in the 1st round when we need help on defense.

 

[HuskerOC]

Footballoutsiders has him ranked 3rd, 6th or 8th in the league right now depending on which metric you want to use. He certainly passes the eyeball test, too.

Alvin Karmara might be pretty good, too. McCaffrey has a shot as well.

Its a very good running back draft but I do think Fournette is picked at least 10 spots before the next RB.

Eyeball test?

Murray is 20th in the league in rushing yards and his 4.0 yards a carry is below mediocrity in the league. He is a stop gap "nice" player. Far from great, far from walking on the street.

I see him play. NFL teams see him play. He is of zero concern. Teams don't game plan anything around Murray. He is an everyday average joe in the NFL.

If I were the Raiders, I'd take Cook. And I'd move up to get him.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Spot on.

And people complain that we don't have enough teams in a playoff, yet argue out of the side of their mouth that players need to play less games to keep them safe for their professional career.

Which is it?

If his team was in a playoff to compete for a national title my opinion would be different. He needs to play. But the Citrus Bowl is an exhibition game. Plain and simple

 

[The Oldtimer]

I've seen guys with all sorts of talent, who are only in it for the money. They stink for a while, have a decent season a year ahead of time, have a career year when they are going to be a FA, and then disappear again. I've also seen guys who weren't that talented but wanted to play and wanted to win more than the other guys. They're the guys leading teams to the playoffs every year.

Maybe RB is different, because you don't get better, nobody learns and turns them self into a great player. It tends to be a position where you're born with it, or you're not. And Fournette was born with it.

So I can see both sides of it, but I sure as hell won't be excited for him.

Good comment, but don't forget that any good running back needs a good O-line. A running back is only as good as his O-line.

 

[Clayton]

Eyeball test?

Murray is 20th in the league in rushing yards and his 4.0 yards a carry is below mediocrity in the league. He is a stop gap "nice" player. Far from great, far from walking on the street.

I see him play. NFL teams see him play. He is of zero concern. Teams don't game plan anything around Murray. He is an everyday average joe in the NFL.

If I were the Raiders, I'd take Cook. And I'd move up to get him.

Murray runs the ball well where you need to run the ball well.

Most running backs are everyday average players these days, to be honest.

 

[HuskerOC]

If his team was in a playoff to compete for a national title my opinion would be different. He needs to play. But the Citrus Bowl is an exhibition game. Plain and simple

He has been "hurt" for 2 years at LSU. Plays when he feels right.

I seriously love the dude, and think he is as solid as they come, but have to question his true competitiveness.

If you don't want to compete, the NFL will completely expose you. Down in, down out, you have to bring it in the league. You can't just show up when you want to unless you are Deion Sanders or Bo Jackson.

 

[The Oldtimer]

If his team was in a playoff to compete for a national title my opinion would be different. He needs to play. But the Citrus Bowl is an exhibition game. Plain and simple

If the Citrus Bowl is just an exhibition game, then why did LSU accept the invitation? Maybe the whole team should sit out.