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Will we ever see a WR this incredible for 6 consecutive seasons ever again?

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You won't see with the Raiders line up
 

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So is the line of 8 Tds the most important flex, because Moss' first six years were far better.... Not unheard of at all.

Good name. Is he really the closest to Antonio though?

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Pretty inferior in terms of receptions and yards. The total TDs is impressive, but really not close across the board. And he had a year of only 69 catches in there, 30+ guys are getting more than that.

Doesn't match Antonio's lead here.
 

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Good name. Is he really the closest to Antonio though?

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Pretty inferior in terms of receptions and yards. The total TDs is impressive, but really not close across the board. And he had a year of only 69 catches in there, 30+ guys are getting more than that.

Doesn't match Antonio's lead here.
Do you actually watch the games, or are you in front of your computer touching yourself to the stat trackers?

Brown demanded targets that made the Steelers predictable. With a 40+% chance the ball was going to him, that's where coverage was, and that's where the interceptions that lost playoff games came.

Him getting his 5 catches and 50 yards for a streak doesn't matter. What matters is winning games, and winning in the playoffs.

Couldn't do that with him. He didn't elevate the Steelers team, he was a parasite.
 

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6 years
686 receptions
9,145 yards
67 touchdowns

A totally ridiculous level of football was being performed for us.

No season under 100-1200-8. This is unheard of. Some players have tremendous years, but they don't do it consecutively like this guy.

As a football fan, I salute the greatness.

Thank you, Antonio.

So is the line of 8 Tds the most important flex, because Moss' first six years were far better.... Not unheard of at all.

Yep.

Out of 96 total games, Brown started 90 of them.

Moss in his first 6 years...started 91

525 receptions
8,375 yds
77 Touchdowns
16.3 yards per reception compared to Brown's of 13.3

I will take the 10 more TD's for Moss and the big play threat.
 

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Do you actually watch the games

Yes, I watched Antonio Brown run great routes and get wide open.

Which drives you mad, because you're crazy, but I enjoyed it. He's supposed to get wide open and it's great.
 

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I will take the 10 more TD's for Moss and the big play threat.
But you watch a losing franchise so you wouldn't know best.

That's why I asked the question did anyone do it better as consistently. Not did anyone have better individual moments.
 

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Off the field stuff only matters to losers. This is a football league and it's all about the performances on the football field.

On the field, not only the best since 2013. What he did for those prime years is the best ever.

Not really true, sometimes what happens on the field bleeds over to off the field...such as Juju wining team MVP on the field, that contributed to AB's off the field issues.

Definitely a stud for that period of time though. Can't take any of that away from him.
 

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But you watch a losing franchise so you wouldn't know best.

That's why I asked the question did anyone do it better as consistently. Not did anyone have better individual moments.

If you think I only watch my team you are an idiot LOL.

Moss was just as consistent and yes he did it better. So yes both questions were answered and he is a better option than ABrown. Plus, Moss wasn't the best teammate but still better than Brown. As far as the playoffs both helped their teams win the same amount of playoff games as well, 6.

Therefore, Moss is better. Do better next time kid.
 

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Off the field stuff only matters to losers. This is a football league and it's all about the performances on the football field.

On the field, not only the best since 2013. What he did for those prime years is the best ever.

Nope and they never got to one SB in those 6 years. Yet they won two Super Bowls with less WR's like Ward, Holmes and Randle El.

Nope. Wrong again lol.
 

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I'll still take Julio . Better teammate , less drama , far superior blocker and can do anything AB can do while also not being a primadonna dick .

But AB is still legit
 

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If you think I only watch my team you are an idiot LOL.

Moss was just as consistent and yes he did it better. So yes both questions were answered and he is a better option than ABrown. Plus, Moss wasn't the best teammate but still better than Brown. As far as the playoffs both helped their teams win the same amount of playoff games as well, 6.

Therefore, Moss is better. Do better next time kid.
I'm not going to get into things like being second fiddle to Cris Carter. That stuff is irrelevant to this specific discussion.

Moss didn't achieve the excellence across the board like Antonio did. He was a dangerous deep threat and dangerous redzone threat, but you couldn't rely on him to catch as many balls (mostly because he couldn't rely on himself to try every play).

But again, that stuff doesn't matter for this. Moss is a pretty good name to put up on this list, but he doesn't top it. He actually isn't even 2nd. Because I've found that guy already.
 

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I'll still take Julio . Better teammate , less drama , far superior blocker and can do anything AB can do while also not being a primadonna dick .

But AB is still legit
That's not the question though. Julio doesn't have 6 consecutive years of it yet. Even if he does it the next two years he is way short on TDs.
 

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Nope and they never got to one SB in those 6 years. Yet they won two Super Bowls with less WR's like Ward, Holmes and Randle El.

Nope. Wrong again lol.
Right.
The the rest of his team couldn't perform at his level of dominance.
Already covered that.
 

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On the field, not only the best since 2013. What he did for those prime years is the best ever.

Yep. Out of 96 total games, Brown started 90 of them.

Moss in his first 6 years...started 91

525 receptions
8,375 yds
77 Touchdowns
16.3 yards per reception compared to Brown's of 13.3

I will take the 10 more TD's for Moss and the big play threat.

6yr WR averages:
13-18, A.Brown, 114 catches, 1,524yds, 13.3ypr, 11.2 TDs
98-03, Ran.Moss, 88 catches, 1,396yds, 16.3ypr, 12.8 TDs
89-94, Jerry Rice, 93 catches, 1,399yds, 15.1ypc, 13.7 TDs, 0.7 TD rushing

As @Superbelt said, stats must be viewed in context. While Brown has more catches every year, he's doing it under the most QB-protecting, passing-friendly rules the league has ever had. Those same rules are why guys like Brady and Brees can still throw 45 passes per game in their 40’s.

I'm not taking anything away from Brown--he's a truly great player, but for any 6 year period, I think we’d see more than 1 WR taken ahead of AB. While Brown has more catches, Moss and Rice produce more big plays and are better at getting in the endzone--and they did it back when the rules weren't slanted so heavily in favor of the passing offense.
 

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He may be a great player but he is a fucking head case. A head case can destroy your team. #Terrell Owens.
 

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6yr WR averages:
13-18, A.Brown, 114 catches, 1,524yds, 13.3ypr, 11.2 TDs
98-03, Ran.Moss, 88 catches, 1,396yds, 16.3ypr, 12.8 TDs
89-94, Jerry Rice, 93 catches, 1,399yds, 15.1ypc, 13.7 TDs, 0.7 TD rushing

As @Superbelt said, stats must be viewed in context. While Brown has more catches every year, he's doing it under the most QB-protecting, passing-friendly rules the league has ever had. Those same rules are why guys like Brady and Brees can still throw 45 passes per game in their 40’s.

I'm not taking anything away from Brown--he's a truly great player, but for any 6 year period, I think we’d see more than 1 WR taken ahead of AB. While Brown has more catches, Moss and Rice produce more big plays and are better at getting in the endzone--and they did it back when the rules weren't slanted so heavily in favor of the passing offense.
I hear you and there's nothing inaccurate about what you said. But these professionals have to perform under the rules as they are at the time. Other players have played in this era too, but none have done what Brown has done. I would have loved to watch Rice with this past decade of rules too.
 
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