Why the SEC Isn't As Great in Football As You Think

[24seven]

I remember that! They should bring it back.

 

[ForkEmBucky]

The Capital One Bowl....conference rankings. Teams with a lower conference ranking than their opponents in bold.

2000(01)
Michigan: 6-2, #2
Auburn: 6-2, #2

2001(02)
Tennessee: 7-1, #2
Michigan: 6-2, #2

2002(03)
Auburn: 5-3, #3
Penn State: 5-3, #4

2003(04)
Georgia: 6-2, #2
Purdue: 6-2, #3

2004(05)
Iowa: 7-1, #2
LSU: 6-2, #4

2005(06)
Wisconsin: 5-3, #3
Auburn: 7-1, #3....due to 6-2 Georgia defeating 7-1 LSU in CCG

2006(07)
Wisconsin: 7-1, #3 due to head to head loss to Michigan
Arkansas: 7-1, #2

2007(08)
Michigan: 6-2, #3 due to head to head loss to Illinois
Florida: 5-3, #4

2008(09)
Georgia: 6-2, #3
Michigan State: 6-2, #3

2009(10)
Penn State: 6-2, #3
LSU: 5-3, #3

2010(11)
Alabama: 5-3, #3 in a wacky year for the SEC, BCS put them ahead of CCG loser SCAR
Michigan State: 7-1, #3 in a wacky year for B1G with BCS boosting UW and tOSU up

2011(12)
South Carolina: 6-2, #4
Nebraska: 5-3, #4

 

[ForkEmBucky]

The Outback Bowl conference rankings......teams who with lower rankings in their conference compared to their opponents marked in bold

2000(01)
SCAR: 5-3, #4
tOSU: 5-3, #4

2001(02)
SCAR: 5-3, #4
tOSU: 5-3, #3

2002(03)
Michigan: 6-2, #3
Florida: 6-2, #3

2003(04)
Iowa: 5-3, #4
Florida: 6-2, #4....due to extremely...and I mean extremely...top weighted SEC

2004(05)
Georgia: 6-2, #3
Wisconsin: 6-2, #3

2005(06)
Florida: 5-3, #4 (had all kinds of help from the zebras in this game)
Iowa: 5-3, #5

2006(07)
Penn State: 5-3, #4
Tennessee: 5-3, #4

2007(08)
Tennessee: 6-2, #3...WON their division, but feel behind UGA in polls
Wisconsin: 5-3, #4

2008(09)
Iowa: 5-3, #5 due to head to head loss to NW
SCAR: 4-4, #6...chosen over Vandy. Can't really blame Iowa for this one.

2009(10)
Auburn: 3-5, I can't even tell....like 7th? Again, nobody loves Vandy
Northwestern: 5-3, #5

2010(11)
Florida: 4-4, #6
Penn State: 4-4, #6

2011(12)
Michigan State: 6-2, #2
Georgia: 7-1, #2

 

[ForkEmBucky]

Does that article talk about how most of the bowl matchups for SEC teams favor the other conference (for in-conference ranking), yet the SEC typically comes out on top?

Nope. Because that theory is full of holes.

 

[ForkEmBucky]

In post 231, Florida shouldn't even be bolded. Oops.

So.......about that "We always play higher ranked teams from other conferences and still win" theory that I've heard more than a couple times around here. Where'd you guys go?

 

[CrimsonFan]

 

[HawkeyesRuleURFace]

FUCK THE SEC!!!

 

[SwampHumpy]

FUCK THE SEC!!!

 

[ugafan6612]

 

[ForkEmBucky]

 

[SwampHumpy]

lol

 

[HawkeyesRuleURFace]

FUCK MIKE SLIVE IN JIM DELANEYS ASSHOLE!!!!

 

[Gatorchip]

Nope. Because that theory is full of holes.

Not true. Look at the conference tie-in's for all of the bowls. I've drug out the data several times over on the ESPN boards... it always shuts people up and kills the thread.

 

[ForkEmBucky]

Not true. Look at the conference tie-in's for all of the bowls. I've drug out the data several times over on the ESPN boards... it always shuts people up and kills the thread.

I did look at that actually. That's why I stopped after the B1G/SEC bowl tie ins.

 

[popeyecv64]

so ....... who won this thread ??


I didn't read it

 

[LSUfanFloridaAlumni]

The B1G cannot beat mid-majors and win lower tier bowls half the time. Wisconsin has lost back to back big-time bowls. Go away troll. B1G is lucky to even have a spot at the BCS table because the B1G is incapable of producing a legit national champion contender and everyone knows it.

If the SEC run ends it will be from an ACC team that has finally got their act together, Texas, or Pac12. No it won't be from OU because OU doesn't play a system that can win against upper SEC teams.

 

[LSUfanFloridaAlumni]

Team All-Time Rankings

(1) Alabama
(2) Notre Dame
(3) USC
(4) Oklahoma
(5) Michigan
(6) Ohio State
(7) Texas
(8) Nebraska
(9) LSU
(10) Tennessee
(11) Georgia
(12) Florida
(13) Miami
(14) Auburn
(15) Penn State
(16) Georgia Tech
(17) Minnesota
(18) Texas A&M
(19) Pittsburgh
(20) Washington
(21) Arkansas
(22) Michigan State
(23) FSU
(24) UCLA
(25) Illinois



No it isn't cyclical.

 

[LSUfanFloridaAlumni]

Want to go by wins:

(7) Alabama
(8) Tennessee
(10) Georgia
(11) LSU
(12) Auburn
(18) Texas A&M
(19) Arkansas
(23) Florida

8 teams in top 25 in all-time wins.

That is also including the fact that most SEC teams didn't even start playing until 1890s while other leagues such as the B1G started playing in 1870s.

 

[popeyecv64]

The B1G cannot beat mid-majors and win lower tier bowls half the time. Wisconsin has lost back to back big-time bowls. Go away troll. B1G is lucky to even have a spot at the BCS table because the B1G is incapable of producing a legit national champion contender and everyone knows it.

If the SEC run ends it will be from an ACC team that has finally got their act together, Texas, or Pac12. No it won't be from OU because OU doesn't play a system that can win against upper SEC teams.

well now

Nebraska just joined the BIG --they can show how its done

beat ACC and SEC without battin an eye

 

[Gatorchip]

I did look at that actually. That's why I stopped after the B1G/SEC bowl tie ins.

Even with that, the SEC loses 1 to the NCG (last year 2). That bumps them all down for rankings.

Previously, I pulled together the tie-in numbers along with the number of teams and the SEC still had it "tougher" (i.e. #3 in a 10-team conference is technically a lower ranking than #3 in a 12-team conference).