Who SHOULD win the NFL League MVP for 2024?

[The Q]

TLDR

It’s voter fatigue


it happens in the nba a lot

Especially with jokic

 

[ducky]

Saquon. Both Allen and Lamar have been amazing but I think Saquon has had the biggest impact, without him the Eagles wouldn’t be nearly as good, he’s carried their offense and has had a historic season. So he would get my vote. But I’m pretty sure it will go to Allen since the award is almost exclusively QBs and he hasn’t won it yet while Lamar has won it twice.

If Saquon got hurt game 1 and wouldnt have played this season with the Eagles, they are still a playoff team.

If Lamar or Allen got hurt game 1 and wouldnt have played this season with their team, they are both picking in the top 5 of next years draft.

That is the difference between the impact of a QB and a RB and why it will be an incredibly long time before a RB actually deserves an MVP vote again.

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For me it is a coin toss between Allen and Lamar. I go Allen just because he doesnt have one.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

TLDR

It’s voter fatigue


it happens in the nba a lot

Especially with jokic

it happens ion the NFL as well.
Otherwise when Peyton started winning the MVP he would have won all of them as a colt.
With Peyton they were one of the superbowl favorites. Without him they were favorites for the #1 pick in draft. Hell even when he obviously won it they decided to make a co-MVP
This is how this nowadays media event plays out.
The media will make their push for whoever ends up MVP this year.

 

[Xeliou66]

If Saquon got hurt game 1 and wouldnt have played this season with the Eagles, they are still a playoff team.

If Lamar or Allen got hurt game 1 and wouldnt have played this season with their team, they are both picking in the top 5 of next years draft.

That is the difference between the impact of a QB and a RB and why it will be an incredibly long time before a RB actually deserves an MVP vote again.

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For me it is a coin toss between Allen and Lamar. I go Allen just because he doesnt have one.

I don’t agree at all - the Eagles would have had a hard time making the playoffs without Saquon IMO, you saw how they collapsed last year - Saquon having a phenomenal, historic year has opened up their O and made them very dangerous, without him they wouldn’t have been nearly as good.
I also don’t agree that the Bills and Ravens would be picking in the top 5 of the draft without Allen/Lamar, both teams are very talented outside of the QB position. Not trying to take anything away from Allen and Lamar, but I think Saquon has been most important to his team and has had the best overall season.

 

[Thruthefog]

Popularity contest.

 

[chillerdab]

Jayden Daniels should win the mvp.

Have you seen his supporting cast?

Yeesh.

 

[Edonidd]

I feel like in 2019 Lamar won the MVP because they media decided it needed to consider these "new" running QB's. He barely averaged 200 yards passing per game. This was not a year like when Brady or Manning or Marino threw 5000 yards and 50 TD's. They gave it to him again last year because his stats were even better, his team was among the best in the league, and he was doing it all by himself.

This year his stats are better than they were last year, but not eye boggling stats. His team is worse and he's not doing it by himself anymore.

I wouldn't be opposed to him winning it, I just don't see him being worthy of being a 3 time NFL MVP and never even passing for 4k yards in a league with 17 games and these passing rules.

So I voted Allen for mostly the same reasons they gave it to Jackson in the past.

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

1. Allen
2. Jackson
3. Alan Jackson

 

[ducky]

I don’t agree at all - the Eagles would have had a hard time making the playoffs without Saquon IMO, you saw how they collapsed last year - Saquon having a phenomenal, historic year has opened up their O and made them very dangerous, without him they wouldn’t have been nearly as good.
I also don’t agree that the Bills and Ravens would be picking in the top 5 of the draft without Allen/Lamar, both teams are very talented outside of the QB position. Not trying to take anything away from Allen and Lamar, but I think Saquon has been most important to his team and has had the best overall season.

Last year the Eagles had a bottom 5 defense. This year it is a top 3.

That is the biggest difference between last years eagles and this years. They literally were the 7th scoring offense both this year and last. And in terms of yards they are 6th this year and 8th last year.

I am not trying to knock Saquon. Dude is a stud.

But RB's just dont impact the game the same way QB's do. It is why there likely won't be more than 1 or 2 positional players to win the MVP award for the rest of our lives. Even as little as 15 years ago, positional players could change the complexion of a team more significantly than a QB. But those days have past as the passing games have become more advanced.

 

[Think McFly Think]

Jayden Daniels should win the mvp.

Have you seen his supporting cast?

Yeesh.

He’d be the second ever to win MVP as a rookie. You guys finally have a kid to build around, gotta be an exciting time.

 

[Shanemansj13]

1 Allen
2 Burrow
3 Saquon

It really sucks for Saquon. Amazing, historic season by him but Allen and Burrow just having ridiculous seasons. If you include Lamar, you include Henry too. It is too bad for Burrow, he has a horrible defense and average at best OL. Allen and Burrow are doing less with more overall as a team.

 

[chillerdab]

He’d be the second ever to win MVP as a rookie. You guys finally have a kid to build around, gotta be an exciting time.

It sure as shit is!

Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love is an enviable 20 year run of excellent to All-Pro level qb play.

Anyone who says that they arent is lying.

I know that as a long suffering skins fan I was absolutely envious of that lineage over the years!

 

[Think McFly Think]

It sure as shit is!

Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love is an enviable 20 year run of excellent to All-Pro level qb play.

Anyone who says that they arent is lying.

I know that as a long suffering skins fan I was absolutely envious of that lineage over the years!

Yeah, we’ve been very fortunate with QB’s.

Even with our early exits in the playoffs by all 3 (with the 2 SB victories and 1 SB appearance exceptions) there’s plenty of teams that didn’t sniff the playoffs during that span, in large part due to not having found their guy behind center.

 

[Xeliou66]

1 Allen
2 Burrow
3 Saquon

It really sucks for Saquon. Amazing, historic season by him but Allen and Burrow just having ridiculous seasons. If you include Lamar, you include Henry too. It is too bad for Burrow, he has a horrible defense and average at best OL. Allen and Burrow are doing less with more overall as a team.

Saquon’s season is way more remarkable and historic than Allen‘s or Burrow’s. Not trying to shit on either of them, they’ve been great, but there’s nothing really historic about either of their seasons - Allen has thrown for 3731 yards and 28 TDs/6 INTs, and has run for 531 yards and 12 TDs, great season but a couple of QBs put up these kinds of numbers every season and Allen is only averaging 233 yards per game passing. Not historic. Burrow’s season has been closer to historic, 4641 yards passing, 42 TDs/8 INTs, and a 69.8% completion rate, and averaging 290 yards per game. If Burrow throws for 359 in Week 18 he’ll hit 5000 yards which is a great accomplishment. If the Bengals had a better record Burrow would be leading the MVP race IMO but it’s very unlikely they make the playoffs. Lamar has thrown for 3955 yards, 39 TDs/4 INTs and has run for 852 and 4 TDs, that’s a great season as well, and yeah Henry has had a great season, 1783 rushing yards and 14 TDs, those two being on the same team kind of hurt each other since they are both great. But Saquon running for 2000 yards is historic, only 9 players ever have done it, and if he gets 101 next week he sets the record. And he’s carried the Eagles O - they are averaging just around 200 passing yards a game, without Saquon I don’t think they make the playoffs as Saquon has opened up some of the passing game as well. So I think Saquon should win MVP. If the Bengals made the playoffs Burrow would probably win it. I’m pretty sure Allen will win it but he hasn’t had the best season IMO, his numbers aren’t historic, they’re very good but not an all time great season.

 

[Think McFly Think]

Saquon’s season is way more remarkable and historic than Allen‘s or Burrow’s. Not trying to shit on either of them, they’ve been great, but there’s nothing really historic about either of their seasons - Allen has thrown for 3731 yards and 28 TDs/6 INTs, and has run for 531 yards and 12 TDs, great season but a couple of QBs put up these kinds of numbers every season and Allen is only averaging 233 yards per game passing. Not historic. Burrow’s season has been closer to historic, 4641 yards passing, 42 TDs/8 INTs, and a 69.8% completion rate, and averaging 290 yards per game. If Burrow throws for 359 in Week 18 he’ll hit 5000 yards which is a great accomplishment. If the Bengals had a better record Burrow would be leading the MVP race IMO but it’s very unlikely they make the playoffs. Lamar has thrown for 3955 yards, 39 TDs/4 INTs and has run for 852 and 4 TDs, that’s a great season as well, and yeah Henry has had a great season, 1783 rushing yards and 14 TDs, those two being on the same team kind of hurt each other since they are both great. But Saquon running for 2000 yards is historic, only 9 players ever have done it, and if he gets 101 next week he sets the record. And he’s carried the Eagles O - they are averaging just around 200 passing yards a game, without Saquon I don’t think they make the playoffs as Saquon has opened up some of the passing game as well. So I think Saquon should win MVP. If the Bengals made the playoffs Burrow would probably win it. I’m pretty sure Allen will win it but he hasn’t had the best season IMO, his numbers aren’t historic, they’re very good but not an all time great season.

I very much enjoy your passion for football and the fact that you always back up your opinions with statistics, but I really wish you used more paragraphs/spaces.


But we all have our posting styles, own yours bro, it’s just an outside opinion.

 

[PhilSimms11]

I voted someone else as in nobody. To me, the NFL MVP has become as irrelevant as the Heisman and the late Pro Bowl. I just don't care. Let the fans banter about who they think the MVP is. That's fine. To have an official award for it...no thanks.

I don't think the discussed players care either. They have more important issues...such as trying to win the Super Bowl.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Last year the Eagles had a bottom 5 defense. This year it is a top 3.

That is the biggest difference between last years eagles and this years. They literally were the 7th scoring offense both this year and last. And in terms of yards they are 6th this year and 8th last year.

I am not trying to knock Saquon. Dude is a stud.

But RB's just dont impact the game the same way QB's do. It is why there likely won't be more than 1 or 2 positional players to win the MVP award for the rest of our lives. Even as little as 15 years ago, positional players could change the complexion of a team more significantly than a QB. But those days have past as the passing games have become more advanced.

& there in lies the problem. It isnt supposed to be the Most Valuable Position. It is supposed to be the Most Valuable Player.
The Eagles had their Franchise QB last year. Seen what happened. This year they add Saquan & he is unstoppable. Throw in a 3rd String Qb. He is still unstoppable. You know what makes defenses better? Having a running game. The year Zeke went to Dallas. Their Defense was night & day different & they didnt make much changes to it. I look at Lamar. He has always had kick ass defenses, kick ass Running games. A kick ass line. One of the best coaching staffs in all the NFL. Yet he always falls short.
I am not gonna cry if Allen or Burrow win it. but I would vote for Saquan. But under this criteria where everyone thinks as you do nowadays. (Most Valuable Position) I think Allen should win it, but you could make a case for Burrow. Because without him. That team is in real trouble. Which if you follow the meaning. Makes him even more valuable than the others to his team.
Between Allen & Lamar. The Bills lean on Allen for success much more than the Ravens lean on Lamar. Buit when you hear from the media. You would think Lamar is the only player on the team.
Now with all that said. I do think this is Lamar's best year as a pro. This year he actually does belong in the conversation.
Unlike his last one *Schmoop stares over @broncosmitty * LOL

 

[Anointed One]

Who selected Mahones?

 

[UK Cowboy]

It should always be Mahomes, just like it should always have been Jordan or LBJ or Bonds. But under this format it should be Allen. Without him this season that team might not break .500

 

[Think McFly Think]

Who selected Mahones?

@Black Adam Was it you? Clayton said he voted Lamar