Who has been the worst QB in Seahawks history?

[blstoker]

Bill Munson (1976) - A 35 year old quarterback with 66 career starts came to the expansion Seahawks to back up rookie Jim Zorn. Making only 5 appearances during the season, all in relief, he posted his second lowest rating of his career (55.6). Career numbers: 5 G 20 Comp 37 Att 54.1 % 295 Yard 1 TD 3 INT 55.6 Rating.

Steve Myer (1976-1979) - Drafted by the Seahawks in the 4th round of the 1976 draft, Myer was unable to beat out undrafted rookie Jim Zorn for the starting job. Myer wouldn't play in a game until 1977, where he appeared in 7 games, four starts. His lone win came against fellow expansion team Tampa Bay on Oct. 16, 1977. It was only the 3rd win in Seahawk history and Tampa's 17 consecutive loss. Career numbers: 12 G, 4 GS, 1-3 Rec, 83 Comp, 160 Att, 51.9 %, 851 Yard, 6 TD, 14 INT, 70.9 Rating.

Jeff Kemp (1987-1991) - Kemp arrived in Seattle after 5 seasons win the Rams and 9ers, to serve as back up to starter Dave Kreig. He would see limited action his first 4 years in Seattle (68 pass attempts) before starting 5 games in relief of Kreig in 1991. Kemp would be released after an abysmal start against the Raiders (10-25 147 1-3) in which Seattle lost 20-23. He would finish 1991 (and his career) in Philadelphia. Career numbers: 55 G, 7 GS, 3-4 Rec, 130 Comp, 249 Att, 52.2 %, 1735 Yard, 9 TD, 18 INT, 56.6 Rating.

Kelly Stouffer (1988-1992) - After Kenny Easley failed a physical, Seattle sent a 1st and two 5ths for the rights to the Cardinals 1987 1st round draft pick (Kelly Stouffer) in 1988. He would start 6 games in relief of Dave Kreig in 1988 after Jeff Kemp was bench for ineffectiveness after one game. His '88 campaign is best remembered for his 46 yard TD pass to Ray Butler with a broken nose, in a 38-7 loss to San Francisco. He would win the starting job for 1992 after Kreig departed the team, but injuries and ineffectiveness limited to 7 starts (he is credited with the team's only 2 wins that season) and he retired after the season, though he failed a comeback bid with the Raiders in '96. Career numbers: 22 G, 16 GS, 225 Comp, 437 Att, 51.5 %, 2333 Yard, 7 TD, 19 INT, 54.5 Rating.

Dan McGwire (1991-1994) - Picked #16 overall in 1991, McGwire was seen as the eventual replacement to Dave Kreig. The Brother of MLB 1B Superstar Mark McGwire, Dan was the highest selected QB in Seahawk history to that point. In his first start as a rookie, Seattle would win 31-3 despite McGwire completing only 3 passes (Jeff Kemp would complete 7 more). Losing the starting job to Kelly Stouffer in 1992, McGwire would start just 4 more games for Seattle over the next 3 years. His final win was a 16-14 affair against Houston where he completed just 8 passes (Chris Warren ran for 185 yards an 1 TD, and Mack Strong added 44 more and another TD). Career numbers: 12 G, 5 GS, 2-3 Rec, 74 Comp, 148 Att, 745 Yard, 2 TD, 6 INT, 57.3 Rating.

Stan Gelbaugh (1992-1996) - The journeyman QB was brought in to be the #3 quarterback for the Seahawks in 1992, but an injury to Kelly Stouffer, and ineffective play by Dan McGwire forced him into 8 starts (all loses, though he did lead the come from behind victory against Denver Nov. 30, despite Stouffer starting). Gelbaugh would stay and back up Rick Mirer until 1996. Gelbaugh's only win as a starter came 12/22/1996, a 28-21 victory over the Raiders in which he didn't complete a pass. Career numbers: 13 G, 9 GS, 1-8 Rec, 131 Comp, 273 Att, 48.0 %, 1426 Yard, 7 TD, 12 INT, 50.5 Rating.

Rick Mirer (1993-1996) - After the dismal 1992 season, Seattle took Rick Mirer #2 overall in the 1993 draft. Though he showed some promise as a rookie (setting several NFL rookie records) Mirer never seemed to progress from there. Concidered one of Seattle's biggest busts, he was traded to Chicago for a 1st round pick in 1997 (which was then traded to move up to take Shawn Springs #3). Career numbers: 55 G, 51 GS, 20-31 Rec, 1088 Comp, 2043 Att, 53.4 %, 9094 Yard, 41 TD, 56 INT, 65.2 Rating.

Gino Torretta (1996) - The former Heisman Trophy winner (1992) was brought in as a 3rd QB in 1996. He made one appearance in relief of Stan Gelbaugh that year, helping lead the Seahawks to victory despite completing only 5 passes. Career numbers: 1 G, 5 Comp, 16 Att, 31.3 %, 41 Yard, 1 TD, 1 INT, 41.0 Rating.

Charlie Frye (2008) - The former Browns' starter came to Seattle to be the #3 quarterback behind Matt Hasselbeck and Seneca Wallace in 2008. He would start against Green Bay, a 27-17 Lose in which he threw 2 TDs, but also threw 2 picks. Career numbers: 2 G, 1 GS, 0-1 Rec, 12 Comp, 23 Att, 52.2 %, 83 Yard, 2 TD, 2 INT, 53.4 Rating.

Charlie Whitehurst (2010-2011) - Brought in to back up first Matt Hasselbeck and then Tarvaris Jackson after 4 seasons on the sideline in San Diego, Whitehurst would start 4 games in 2 years. Whitehurst proved to be an enigma in Seattle, showing at times the appearance of competence (22-36 192 yards 1 TD in play off sealing win against St. Louis in 2010 & 11-19 146 yard 1 TD in relief in 36-25 win against NYG in 2011), but would also be completely destroyed (12-30 97 yards 1 INt in 3-6 loss to hapless Cleveland in 2011 & 12-23 113 yard 1 TD 2 INT 41-7 loss to NYG in 2010). He was 1-4 in 5 starts with Tennessee last season, though posted a respectable 87.4 rating and 7:2 TD:INT. Career numbers: 9 G, 4 GS, 1-3 Rec, 84 Comp, 155 Att, 54.2 %, 805 Yard, 3 TD, 4 INT, 64.6 Rating.

 

[Doublejive]

I voted Mirer,he was a bad,bad,bad pick,,But many fans of the teams here aside from the Sonics were used to bad picks by then,so many let downs,year after year after year.

 

[RegentDenali]

Mirer. Selected with the #2 pick in the draft.

 

[BoiseMike19]

It was a close toss-up between Mirer and McGwire. Went with McGwire only because I was a lot more let down. The guy was like 6'10" and had all the tools. Always thought Mirer was over-rated. I can't remember who it was, but there was a QB that turned out to be a HOFer that went just before Mirer.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

So many choices, all deserving to on this list.

 

[flyerhawk]

I guess it depends on how you measure worst. Worst acquisition versus worst performer. Some guys barely saw the field.

McGwire was our worst acquisition. Mirer would have been except we wound up fleecing the Bears when we traded him to them.

From a pure performance perspective it is Stan Gelbaugh for me. He looked like the first QB in Necessary Roughness screaming "Blow the whistle!" in every game I watched him play.

 

[blstoker]

I don't think Rick Mirer was all that bad (in the context of this conversation). The issue when looking back at his tenure was that he was taken #2 and going by the standard of where he was taken he was definitely a bust. He was definitely the best option the Seahawks had a QB at the time, though (John Freisz, Stan Gelbaugh, Dan McGwire and Gino Torretta were all his back ups), so it really is hard to put him higher on the list than at least the three guys who couldn't beat him out.

Even in terms of worst acquisition, I don't think Mirer fares any higher than 3rd on the list. At the time leading to the draft, it was a foregone conclusion that the Seahawks and Patriots would take Bledsoe and Mirer 1 and 2, it was just a question of in which order. Just like 5 years later with Manning and Leaf - the one who picked first got the better player. In hindsight maybe they should have take Willie Roaf #2 and hold out til the 4th or 5th to take local boy Brunell - but at the time they had a young LT that was returning after starting all 16 games in '92 and the QB situation was a disaster. I really can't fault this pick at all, it just didn't turn out.

When they took Dan McGwire to be the heir apparent to Dave Kreig, Brett Favre was still there, but again hindsight is 2020. Kelly Stouffer took 3 picks to get after he refused to sign with the Cardinals. A 1st and 2 5ths (just because the Cardinals were even worse at drafting than the Seahawks shouldn't be considered in the quality of the deal). Maybe Stouffer's deal looks better if Easley is actually the deal and not the draft picks (since Easley never played again, due to injuries), but the picks given up for him were more than the production received.

Overall, I would go with Stouffer. A combination how much it cost to acquire him (even the 1st round #17 pick was only one pick behind McGwire) and on field performance. Stouffer's 47.7 quarterback rating in 1992 is the lowest in Seahawk history for any QB who had at least 190 attempts.

So, how I would list all ten players:

1. Kelly Stouffer
2. Dan McGwire
3. Stan Gelbaugh
4. Gino Torretta
5. Bill Munson
6. Steve Myer
7. Charlie Frye
8. Charlie Whitehurst
9. Jeff Kemp
10. Rick Mirer

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

It was a close toss-up between Mirer and McGwire. Went with McGwire only because I was a lot more let down. The guy was like 6'10" and had all the tools. Always thought Mirer was over-rated. I can't remember who it was, but there was a QB that turned out to be a HOFer that went just before Mirer.

That would be Drew Bledsoe to the Pats.

 

[beardown07]

Rick Mirer, because of the expectations/draft #.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

I had to go with Stan the man as the worst, Danny boy could be 1b as the worst as well, it's really a toss up in my mind. Rick Mirer was more a major disappointment considering all the hype coming out of ND and he didn't pan out as what we hoped for.

 

[Tech_God]

I guess it depends on how you measure worst. Worst acquisition versus worst performer. Some guys barely saw the field.

McGwire was our worst acquisition. Mirer would have been except we wound up fleecing the Bears when we traded him to them.

From a pure performance perspective it is Stan Gelbaugh for me. He looked like the first QB in Necessary Roughness screaming "Blow the whistle!" in every game I watched him play.

 

[Tech_God]

Jesus Christ! We've had some HORRIBLE quarterbacks in our history! Can we PLEASE pay Wilson so we don't return back to the dark ages?

 

[blstoker]

That would be Drew Bledsoe to the Pats.

Bledsoe will never get into the hall of fame, and I'm a big fan of his (ex-Coug), but it's just never gonna happen.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Bledsoe will never get into the hall of fame, and I'm a big fan of his (ex-Coug), but it's just never gonna happen.

It's amazing how 1 pick can make a difference. NE became relavent again and Seattle stayed mediocre untill Hass came over, with Warren Moon stopping by for a cup of coffee and a playoff spot.

 

[Screamin12th]

Hawks should have picked Mark Brunell in the 5th round to back up Mire. That would have made everything SOOOOOOO much better lol. I still can not believe that Mark Brunell went in the 5th and Billy joe "i never liked you" Hobert went in the 2nd. One thing i remember About those two is i hated it when they would pull Brunell to play Hobert. Mark was such a better QB and the only reason Hobert did well was because no one was going to beat those dawgs anyway.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Hawks should have picked Mark Brunell in the 5th round to back up Mire. That would have made everything SOOOOOOO much better lol. I still can not believe that Mark Brunell went in the 5th and Billy joe "i never liked you" Hobert went in the 2nd. One thing i remember About those two is i hated it when they would pull Brunell to play Hobert. Mark was such a better QB and the only reason Hobert did well was because no one was going to beat those dawgs anyway.

I missed those days!

 

[blstoker]

It's amazing how 1 pick can make a difference. NE became relavent again and Seattle stayed mediocre untill Hass came over, with Warren Moon stopping by for a cup of coffee and a playoff spot.

Kitna took them to the playoffs, not Moon.

But, back to the pick - I am not entirely sure it was just the pick that made the difference. I think it was coaching. Bill Parcells and Pete Carroll were much better than Tom Flores and Dennis Erickson. Seattle got a decent coach and all of a sudden they're in the playoffs and become relevant (even if their SB didn't come for another 15 years or so).

Looking at the QBs on this list makes me want to point out that Chris Warren should be getting more love from Seahawk fans. From 1992-1996 (the Kelly Stouffer, Dan McGwire, Stan Gelbaugh, Rick Mirer, John Freisz era), Warren ran for 5835 yards (4.3 ypc), caught 1076 yards (7.3 ypr) and had 42 total TDs in five years playing for a team that couldn't get a QB that could throw the ball. Talk about being a RB who is the only offensive threat.

 

[Screamin12th]

Kitna took them to the playoffs, not Moon.

But, back to the pick - I am not entirely sure it was just the pick that made the difference. I think it was coaching. Bill Parcells and Pete Carroll were much better than Tom Flores and Dennis Erickson. Seattle got a decent coach and all of a sudden they're in the playoffs and become relevant (even if their SB didn't come for another 15 years or so).

Looking at the QBs on this list makes me want to point out that Chris Warren should be getting more love from Seahawk fans. From 1992-1996 (the Kelly Stouffer, Dan McGwire, Stan Gelbaugh, Rick Mirer, John Freisz era), Warren ran for 5835 yards (4.3 ypc), caught 1076 yards (7.3 ypr) and had 42 total TDs in five years playing for a team that couldn't get a QB that could throw the ball. Talk about being a RB who is the only offensive threat.

That Offensive line that Warren was running behind was better than the one Lynch is running behind, Just saying. To this day i still remember watching Chris Warren getting 4 to 5 yards down field with out being touched as he ran through some truck sized holes.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Seattle has had some great RB's over time. Just imagine what Lynch's numbers could be if he had the lines that Warren and Alexander had.

 

[Screamin12th]

Seattle has had some great RB's over time. Just imagine what Lynch's numbers could be if he had the lines that Warren and Alexander had.

they would be better that's for sure but then we wouldn't have as many runs over the years that just make us shake our heads and say wow.