Who Has a Shot at a National Title in 2020

[fredsdeadfriend]

Having recruiting rankings in the 20’s and 30’s is not getting top talent. No one is saying their recruiting isn’t improving, but it’s still not getting top end talent. Try and stay on topic here.

Tell that to Clemson. 3 of Dabo's first several recruiting classes were classes rated

#36, #27 & #20. Compare those to 3 of Nebraska's last couple classes

#23, #21 & #18. Or 3 of Wisconsin's maybe?

#35, #29 & #25.

Where do they stand in 2021 so far?

#6 UW, #8 Ia, #13 UMn, #19 Neb. That was a couple days ago.

Of course those are WAY too early rankings and will change. But they are apparently getting some early commits.

So you may not respect their talent level, but B1G West teams have never needed Top 10 or Top 20 recruiting classes to finish in the Top 10 or 20 as the B1G West has produced 45 Top 25 ranked teams since 1999. Wasn't the B1G West back then, but the 7 teams that make up the B1G West.

 

[ralphiewvu]

Tell that to Clemson. 3 of Dabo's first several recruiting classes were classes rated

#36, #27 & #20. Compare those to 3 of Nebraska's last couple classes

#23, #21 & #18. Or 3 of Wisconsin's maybe?

#35, #29 & #25.

Where do they stand in 2021 so far?

#6 UW, #8 Ia, #13 UMn, #19 Neb. That was a couple days ago.

Of course those are WAY too early rankings and will change. But they are apparently getting some early commits.

So you may not respect their talent level, but B1G West teams have never needed Top 10 or Top 20 recruiting classes to finish in the Top 10 or 20 as the B1G West has produced 45 Top 25 ranked teams since 1999. Wasn't the B1G West back then, but the 7 teams that make up the B1G West.

2021 has a year until it’s finished for recruiting. Things can change and most likely will.

b1GWest also has never produced a playoff team. Which is kind of important if you are talking about winning a National Championship.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

No

HA HA, one good team a good division does not make.

Maryland, Rutgers, Mich St are all going to suck.

IU?

That leaves you just 3 teams, and UMn beat PSU in 2019. Michigan? With Harbaugh still their coach? Didn't Wisc handle them in 2019? Hell, even the Illini beat MSU, as did UW.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Since 1988, Minnesota has as many wins against Michigan (2) as Oregon.

 

[Deep Creek]

Tell that to Clemson. 3 of Dabo's first several recruiting classes were classes rated

#36, #27 & #20. Compare those to 3 of Nebraska's last couple classes

#23, #21 & #18. Or 3 of Wisconsin's maybe?

#35, #29 & #25.

Where do they stand in 2021 so far?

#6 UW, #8 Ia, #13 UMn, #19 Neb. That was a couple days ago.

Of course those are WAY too early rankings and will change. But they are apparently getting some early commits.

So you may not respect their talent level, but B1G West teams have never needed Top 10 or Top 20 recruiting classes to finish in the Top 10 or 20 as the B1G West has produced 45 Top 25 ranked teams since 1999. Wasn't the B1G West back then, but the 7 teams that make up the B1G West.

And Clem was 9-5, 6-7 and 10-4 in Dabo's first three full years. Not quite BCS or CFP quality.

Clem started being elite in 2015 so the '12, '13 and '14 classes are where it started. Those classes were in the #15-#20 range.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

Since 1988, Minnesota has as many wins against Michigan (2) as Oregon.

Yeah, and Oregon STILL has ZERO Natl Titles in cfb, and depending on who you ask, ZERO in cbb, too. lol

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

And Clem was 9-5, 6-7 and 10-4 in Dabo's first three full years. Not quite BCS or CFP quality.

Clem started being elite in 2015 so the '12, '13 and '14 classes are where it started. Those classes were in the #15-#20 range.

He inherited a roster made up of recruiting classes in the mid-teens with the most recent class a #9 rated class. So he had plenty of talent to work with. Those classes I mentioned of his, wouldn't have even played for Clemson until after those 3 seasons you listed, unless they played as 1st year frosh or 2nd year Sophs maybe? And that still puts them on the 10-4 team at the earliest.

No, those players are the ones who filled out the rosters of the 11-2 teams he had in 12-14 seasons or thereabouts.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Yeah, and Oregon STILL has ZERO Natl Titles in cfb, and depending on who you ask, ZERO in cbb, too. lol

You're the only imbecile in here who claims an NCAA championship isn't a title.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

You're the only imbecile in here who claims an NCAA championship isn't a title.

An NCAA title in 1939, in cbb, that was not recognized by EITHER the Helms Athletic Foundation or the Premo-Poretta Poll, or any of the teams playing in the NIT tourney, especially the UNDEFEATED team that won the NIT, beating a Butler team by double digits that your Webfoots couldn't handle, one of Oregons many losses that year.

Yeah, THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY, I do not consider to be legit.

 

[handicappers]

You're the only imbecile in here who claims an NCAA championship isn't a title.

He's missing a chromosome. "thanks Dad"

 

[Across The Field]

HA HA, one good team a good division does not make.

Maryland, Rutgers, Mich St are all going to suck.

IU?

That leaves you just 3 teams, and UMn beat PSU in 2019. Michigan? With Harbaugh still their coach? Didn't Wisc handle them in 2019? Hell, even the Illini beat MSU, as did UW.

Well if there's anything sports has shown us, it's that if a team beats someone during one season, they'll unquestionably be better than them the next year.

You also forget that both michigan and Penn State beat Iowa last year, and that Ohio State beat Wisconsin twice? The top 3 B1GE teams were 4-2 against the top 3 B1GW teams last year.

Both Iowa and Wisconsin lose a lot from 2019, but Minnesota returns a lot. michigan loses a lot, but OSU and PSU both return a lot. Nothing to suggest the B1GW will be better.

 

[handicappers]

tOSU players r*pe women and get arrested and take money/bribes. I'm hoping they fail miserably and a team like Iowa or Illinois win the conference.

 

[Across The Field]

^^^^ See what I mean, @fredsdeadfriend ? Dude is an idiot.

 

[handicappers]

^^^^see what I mean @dbldwn711 , called it

 

[dbldwn711]

^^^^see what I mean @dbldwn711 , called it

yup ... you were right again.

 

[Wild Turkey]

^^^^see what I mean @dbldwn711 , called it

yup ... you were right again.

Wait, I thought I was dbldwn this week.

@ukfanfrombirth(cali cat) what does the schedule say?

 

[ukfanfrombirth(cali cat)]

Wait, I thought I was dbldwn this week.

@ukfanfrombirth(cali cat) what does the schedule say?

Why is it always, "Caaallliii, what does the schedule say???"
Do we need to change the format of the schedule so it's easier for you to read???

FFS!!!

You aren't supposed to be @dbldwn711 until the second full week of March, not February (with the usual exception of the 3rd Thursday after the full moon).

 

[Wild Turkey]

Why is it always, "Caaallliii, what does the schedule say???"
Do we need to change the format of the schedule so it's easier for you to read???

FFS!!!

You aren't supposed to be @dbldwn711 until the second full week of March, not February (with the usual exception of the 3rd Thursday after the full moon).

Damn I wanted to get in before Lent. Now I’ll have to delay going to confession.

 

[ukfanfrombirth(cali cat)]

Damn I wanted to get in before Lent. Now I’ll have to delay going to confession.

You signed off on the schedule when it got sent out, just like everyone else.
If you had a concern about Lent, you should have mentioned it at the time.
Please stop being difficult, or we may have to consider rendering your secret decoder ring inoperable.

 

[socaljim242]

Seriously. You have to be really bored , a jerk/troll to be arguing that a title from the 1930s isnt valid. You have no fucking way of knowing anything about it enough to act like you're the definitive word unless both teams played the same teams and played each other in the last game.

Oh yeah, back to the OPs question. USCs gotta shot.