Which of the young Alabama/Oklahoma QBs in the NFL end up being the best over the course of their careers?

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Kyler is the best right now but going forward, I've got it as:

1. Hurts

 

[VikingFan2k2]

Mac Jones looks to be a bust? Maybe you're Daniel Jones?

The kid has been getting pressured more than any other QB.

His oline is in shambles.

RBs have been injured and or have a case of the fumbles.

No #1WR to speak of. They barely have a #2.

Yet he still has a 70% completion rate. Hit on 19 consecutive passes. Handling the pressure extremely well.

Marched his team down in two games to possibly give them the win, only to have their K miss a 56 yarder in the rain and have a RB fumble inside the 10.

He had one bad game thus far.

I was talking about Daniel. Although I don't like Mac all that much either. His ceiling is Cousins.

 

[Godstree]

F#ck Oklahoma!! F#ck Alabama!!


Did not vote!

 

[tlance]

He's already the second best QB in the division.

So what?

Daniel Jones is pretty bad.

Heinicke is scrappy and tough, but more of a high end backup.

I personally wouldn’t take Hurts over Heinicke, but even if you would, that is saying Hurts is the tallest midget.

 

[tlance]

I was talking about Daniel. Although I don't like Mac all that much either. His ceiling is Cousins.

I agree with this.

However, Cousins would be an easy #2 on this list.

Everybody besides Kyler has a pretty low ceiling.

 

[returnofjakedog]

So what?

Daniel Jones is pretty bad.

Heinicke is scrappy and tough, but more of a high end backup.

I personally wouldn’t take Hurts over Heinicke, but even if you would, that is saying Hurts is the tallest midget.

.........or shortest giant!

 

[jarntt]

Kyler is the best right now but going forward, I've got it as:

1. Hurts
2. Kyler
3. Jones
4. Baker
5. Tua

Of course you do...

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Honestly thisd could be a very interesting poll to look back at later in life. If you ignored the eagle fan that created it. LOL

Murray at the moment is the guy, but since it is about careers. Patriots have the better organization. So it could be any of three down the road. I would exclude tua & Hurts who wont stay starters to make the career option moot in this poll.
I went with Jones for now.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Murray seems to start off hot and break down by the end of the season. Plus he has some great veteran WRS right now but they will get old soon. Meanwhile Hurts has a very young WR core to grow with, I think it will allow him to be very prolific for one a long time once he develops while Murray will have to learn to play with lesser talent than he is accustomed to at WR at some point.

Outside of Smith, the WR core sucks. Tough to grow with shit WRs.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

If you only read the RTK's posts, you would think the Eagles are the best team on the planet.

 

[Southieinnc]

Kyler is the best right now but going forward, I've got it as:

1. Hurts
2. Kyler
3. Jones
4. Baker
5. Tua

of course you do!

 

[shopson67]

Kyler easily. I like Mac, but I don't think his ceiling is very high. It will be interesting to see what he gets when his extension time comes around.

 

[SteelersPride]

That isn't saying much. Jones looks like a bust (last week notwithstanding) and Heinicke is a guy that WFT signed as a journeyman backup that has turned into a nice story, nothing more.

I notice Hurts still has one vote.

Jones has been rather good this year. Grades out that way too.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I'm not sure what I think about Mac Jones. It seems like at times BB just doesn't trust him in the RZ but he is also throws 35 times a game but it's a lot of short stuff. My thinking to get his confidence up but if you saw him at Bama, Saban did the same thing. He threw a lot of short stuff- screens, slants, dump offs, etc. That's what he does best but you can't be that kind of QB AND turn the ball over a lot. He SHOULD be a high completion % guy bc of all those short throws so I really don't see what is so impressive about what he has done. I will say he seems like he has a good head on his shoulders, bright kid but averaging 250 passing ypg and throws almost 40 times is not in the least impressive. That doesn't mean he can't be a franchise QB but I really don't think his ceiling is that high. Cousins, Baker-type of QB which is perfectly fine they just have to build around him, more than they did offensively Brady at times.

Kyler is an easy #1 on this list as of right now and most likely for the future.
Baker 2
Mac 3
Hurts and Tua, not really impressive.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

At this point Jalen Hurts should probably rank at worst #2 out of the group now.

1) Kyler (year 3): 72.7%, 2,276 yards, 17 TD, 7 INT, 110.4 QB rating, 147 rushing yards & 3 rushing TDs.

2) Hurts (year 2): 61.6%, 2,306 yards, 13 TD, 5 INT, 90.4 QB rating, 618 rushing yards & 8 rushing TDs.

3) Mac Jones (year 1): 70.2%, 2,540 yards, 15 TD, 8 INT, 94.7 QB rating, 60 rushing yards & 0 rushing TDs.

4) Baker (year 4): 64.0%, 2,166 yards, 10 TD, 6 INT, 91.3 QB rating, 89 rushing yards & 1 rushing TD.

5) Tua (year 2): 68.0%, 1,471 yards, 9 TD, 6 INT, 91.4 QB rating, 68 rushing yards & 3 rushing TDs.

 

[rmilia1]

Does best means which of them is individually better or which will have the most team success?

Individually best Murray
Most team success Jones

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Kyler might have an issue with staying healthy.

 

[Moab]

Just out of curiosity, let's look at how the young Alabama & Oklahoma QBs are doing this season since these are the two linages that Jalen stakes claim to. And then let's speculate on going forward for their careers who will end up being the best and how they will rank.


Baker (year 4): 65.5%, 935 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 89.7 QB rating, 59 rushing yards & 1 rushing TD.

Kyler (year 3): 76.1 %, 1,273 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 115.0 QB rating, 109 rushing yards & 3 rushing TDs.

Tua (year 2): 54.8%, 215 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 74.0 QB rating, 4 rushing yards & 1rushing TD.

Hurts (year 2): 66.2%, 1,167 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 101.1 QB rating, 226 yards & 1 rushing TD.

Mac Jones (year 1): 70.0%, 1,012 yards, 4 TD, 5 INT, 84.7 QB rating, 7 rushing yards & 0 TD.



Kyler is the best right now but going forward, I've got it as:

1. Hurts
2. Kyler
3. Jones
4. Baker
5. Tua

How did your #1 guy on this list do today? He's throwing to Baby Julio and the guy who's going to be the best in the NFL within 3 years, plus a TE that made Ertz expendable, and whatever other future all pro and hall of fame guys on the Eagles. So he must've thown for at least 130 yards and a TD or 2, right?

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

I’ll take Justin Herbert for a $1,000 Alex.

 

[Mebert]

Bryce Young as long as he is not drafted by the Lions