where do you think the Oakland pick will be?

[icehole3]

I think theyre in for a long losing streak and a 6-10 record isnt out of the question

 

[kramer1]

Agreed. The Palmer Curse will land us a top 15 pick. Our 2013 2nd rounder will probably be one of the first 4 or 5 picks in the 2nd round.

 

[Servo]

Agreed. The Palmer Curse will land us a top 15 pick. Our 2013 2nd rounder will probably be one of the first 4 or 5 picks in the 2nd round.

I could live with that...wonder what Hue Jackson was thinking when he watched Palmer throw 3 picks in a half

 

[kramer1]

I could live with that...wonder what Hue Jackson was thinking when he watched Palmer throw 3 picks in a half

He was thinking....Maybe Jay Gruden will take my job when I get fired and I can go back to Cincy.

 

[icehole3]

here's the 2011 order based on record

Team Record Win Pct. Schedule Strength Playoff Advancement
1 Carolina Panthers 2-14 .125 .574 --
2 Denver Broncos 4-12 .250 .516 --
3 Buffalo Bills 4-12 .250 .578 --
4 Cincinnati Bengals 4-12 .250 .582 --
5 Arizona Cardinals 5-11 .313 .465 --
6 Cleveland Browns 5-11 .313 .570 --
7 San Francisco 49ers 6-10 .375 .488 --
8 Tennessee Titans 6-10 .375 .508 --
9 Dallas Cowboys 6-10 .375 .512 --
10 Washington Redskins 6-10 .375 .516 --
11 Houston Texans 6-10 .375 .523 --
12 Minnesota Vikings 6-10 .375 .539 --
13 Detroit Lions 6-10 .375 .543 --
14 St. Louis Rams 7-9 .438 .449 --
15 Miami Dolphins 7-9 .438 .539 --
16 Jacksonville Jaguars 8-8 .500 .453 --
17 Oakland Raiders 8-8 .500 .469 --
18 San Diego Chargers 9-7 .563 .457 --
19 New York Giants 10-6 .625 .453 --
20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10-6 .625 .477 --
21 Kansas City Chiefs 10-6 .625 .414 Lost in wild-card round
22 Indianapolis Colts 10-6 .625 .473 Lost in wild-card round
23 Philadelphia Eagles 10-6 .625 .492 Lost in wild-card round
24 New Orleans Saints 11-5 .688 .469 Lost in wild-card round
25 Seattle Seahawks 7-9 .438 .484 Lost in divisional round
26 Baltimore Ravens 12-4 .750 .484 Lost in divisional round
27 Atlanta Falcons 13-3 .813 .484 Lost in divisional round
28 New England Patriots 14-2 .875 .504 Lost in divisional round
29 Green Bay Packers 10-6 .625 .520 In NFC title game
30 Chicago Bears 11-5 .688 .473 In NFC title game
31 New York Jets 11-5 .688 .492 In AFC title game
32 Pittsburgh Steelers 12-4 .750 .500

 

[kramer1]

Yeah, I think we'll be getting a pick somewhere in the 12-18 range.

 

[icehole3]

He was thinking....Maybe Jay Gruden will take my job when I get fired and I can go back to Cincy.

if he's gets canned he could land a job with Mike Brown for sure, he's written into the will after that trade

 

[kramer1]

On WLW with Broo yesterday was a sports columnist just slobbing all over Jay's nuts. He says Jay Gruden will be a hot commodity in a year or two. He says he's a much better X's and O's guy than his brother Jon.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Yeah, there's some guy down in Florida that was saying he should have landed a HC job in the NFL this year after his stints previously with his brother and then in the AFL/UFL or whatever is it called this week.

He was saying that if Jax was smart they would just hire him after they can Del Rio. Or Miami should hire him after they can their coach.

 

[kramer1]

If Brown is smart he'll can Marv and promote Jay to HC.

 

[kramer1]

Zimmer could also be a candidate if this D finished top 5 and we make the playoffs.

God help us. That would be typical, though. We lose both Jay and Mike and are stuck with Marv and a bunch of clowns.

 

[bengaldoug]

A couple of really good coordinators can even make Marvin look smarter.....looks a lot better than the days of Brat and Bresnahan.....

 

[icehole3]

Raiders remaining schedule:

Nov. 6 Denver
Nov. 10 at San Diego
Nov. 20 at Minnesota
Nov. 27 Chicago
Dec. 4 at Miami
Dec. 11 at Green Bay
Dec. 18 Detroit
Dec. 24 at Kansas City
Jan. 1 San Diego

 

[flamingrey]

At best, I think it'll be mid round pick.

I don't like their WC chances, but with the Chargers struggles, they have a good chance of winning the division. If the Chiefs keep their winning streak alive and beat the Chargers next week, it'll be a 3-way tie at 4-3.

Don't forget, before last night, Oakland had an 8 game win streak in the division.

 

[kramer1]

Raiders remaining schedule:

Nov. 6 Denver
Nov. 10 at San Diego
Nov. 20 at Minnesota
Nov. 27 Chicago
Dec. 4 at Miami
Dec. 11 at Green Bay
Dec. 18 Detroit
Dec. 24 at Kansas City
Jan. 1 San Diego

I see 3 more wins at best.

 

[jwil007]

between 12 and 22.....Just dont know at this point....It needs to be a guard and RB or Guard and CB with a RB in the 2nd........

 

[kramer1]

Raiders remaining schedule:

Nov. 6 Denver
Nov. 10 at San Diego
Nov. 20 at Minnesota
Nov. 27 Chicago
Dec. 4 at Miami
Dec. 11 at Green Bay
Dec. 18 Detroit
Dec. 24 at Kansas City
Jan. 1 San Diego

I'll break it down. Bet large sums of money on this.

Denver - Win. Denver blows. Nuff said.
@SD - Loss of epic proportions.
@Minn - Ponder held his own against a much better GB team. Easy win for Minnesota. Loss
Chicago- Chicago is rolling. They're the better team and should win rather easily. Loss.
@Miami -Miami couldn't beat Stanford. Win.
@GB- LOL. Loss.
Detroit- The game will mean more to Detroit....who happens to be a better team. Loss.
@KC - See Detroit comment. Loss.
San Diego - See the previous 2 comments. Loss.

 

[icehole3]

I'll break it down. Bet large sums of money on this.

Denver - Win. Denver blows. Nuff said.
@SD - Loss of epic proportions.
@Minn - Ponder held his own against a much better GB team. Easy win for Minnesota. Loss
Chicago- Chicago is rolling. They're the better team and should win rather easily. Loss.
@Miami -Miami couldn't beat Stanford. Win.
@GB- LOL. Loss.
Detroit- The game will mean more to Detroit....who happens to be a better team. Loss.
@KC - See Detroit comment. Loss.
San Diego - See the previous 2 comments. Loss.

I agree with everything except the Denver game, they wont have the QB spot figured out by then, I think their offense is in really bad shape right now, it'll take at least 4 weeks for Palmer to get right by then their confidence will be shot, thats why I give them the Miami game, dont be surprised if the Bengals end up with a top 5 pick

 

[flamingrey]

Out of curiosity, what leads you to believe their offense is in bad shape, assuming McFadden is healthy?

 

[DanBengalfan]

I'll break it down. Bet large sums of money on this.

Denver - Win. Denver blows. Nuff said.
@SD - Loss of epic proportions.
@Minn - Ponder held his own against a much better GB team. Easy win for Minnesota. Loss
Chicago- Chicago is rolling. They're the better team and should win rather easily. Loss.
@Miami -Miami couldn't beat Stanford. Win.
@GB- LOL. Loss.
Detroit- The game will mean more to Detroit....who happens to be a better team. Loss.
@KC - See Detroit comment. Loss.
San Diego - See the previous 2 comments. Loss.

agree with this, but, they should turn it around on KC, KC doesn't suck as bad with Cassel, but they are still hurting.