When is it appropriate to cry refs?

[Gatorchip]

Did anyone mention Colorado's fifth down game that led to a national championship?

 

[kburjr]

Fans are supposed to be fanatic. Do you even follow Wisconsin football, bro?

For 57 years so far. Losing is a part of the overall game. I'd like to see a grading system for refs like there is for players. The absolute best players don't play perfect games, I don't expect perfect games out of the refs. To use a golf term, you play the game as it lies. Sometimes your ball rolls into a divot.

 

[PnkPanther]

For 57 years so far. Losing is a part of the overall game. I'd like to see a grading system for refs like there is for players. The absolute best players don't play perfect games, I don't expect perfect games out of the refs. To use a golf term, you play the game as it lies. Sometimes your ball rolls into a divot.

I know in NFL they're graded, those with the highest grades get playoff games

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

And I will admit that when watching a game, I get annoyed if the refs are letting them play during the first half and then start calling every little thing in the second half.

I’m heavily in favor of letting them play.

I am as well as long as blatant PI isn’t allowed. Too many penalties interrupt flow and make games unwatchable.

 

[PIBuckeye]

I am as well as long as blatant PI isn’t allowed. Too many penalties interrupt flow and make games unwatchable.

agree. same with holding. call blatant holding, but for the love of god, stop calling the miniscule examples.......

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

Also i try not to blame the refs for making the correct call even when the rule the call is based on is preposterous ( like an offensive player lowering their head and causing head to head contact which is then flagged on the D ) but i do take issue with re-officiating a play when theres not indisputable evidence or ( worse ) when it appears the initial call was right and they still overturn it. If it takes you more than 1 minute to look at a play then, by definition , its not clear and ibdisputable.

In fairness, even in clear overturns, they have to get the placement AND the clock right. Sometimes that can take over a minute.

 

[Boglodyte]

Whenever you are osu and lose a game

 

[Gatorchip]

For 57 years so far. Losing is a part of the overall game. I'd like to see a grading system for refs like there is for players. The absolute best players don't play perfect games, I don't expect perfect games out of the refs. To use a golf term, you play the game as it lies. Sometimes your ball rolls into a divot.

I see it completely different.

Losing is part of the game for sure, as are the players success and errors within the games. But the refs are not. They exist only to enforce the rules.

Errors in rule enforcement shouldn't impact a game outcome. And when they do impact the outcome, fans should be upset about it.

 

[kburjr]

I see it completely different.

Losing is part of the game for sure, as are the players success and errors within the games. But the refs are not. They exist only to enforce the rules.

Errors in rule enforcement shouldn't impact a game outcome. And when they do impact the outcome, fans should be upset about it.

I just see it as a way to allow for excuses. There are so many times in a football game that costs a team points that are controllable. Refs are not. Move on to the next play. Grousing about the past does nothing.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Anytime my team loses, of course

 

[Rolltide94]

For the timing part of it, all you have to be able to do is snap the ball in less than a second and the time is open ended from there. Difference with a spike is the ball has to be snapped, spiked and blown dead. IMHO you can do that in less than three seconds, but if that is how they interpret the rule and are consistent then I am fine with it.

I wish.

I cant figure out why Saban teams struggle with FGs. I know that kickers can be streaky but damn. I wonder if it is really as bad as the perception because of the consistent excellence of the rest of his units or statically if there is really a big difference or are they average but just happen at opportune times.

It is worse...the Iron Bowl miss was the 101st missed field goal in Saban's 13 years, more than ANY other FBS program over that span....by 11 different kickers. If we sucked you might could explain it away, because I can guarantee that the only schools within a dozen of our 101 suck.

It is clearly something we are doing wrong...I would guess it has to be psychological. The games this year in which we missed no kicks, there was no pressure to make them. I mean who cares if you go 10 for 10 on kicks against Western Carolina...but that is exactly what Bulovas did.

 

[batchaps4me]

It is worse...the Iron Bowl miss was the 101st missed field goal in Saban's 13 years, more than ANY other FBS program over that span....by 11 different kickers. If we sucked you might could explain it away, because I can guarantee that the only schools within a dozen of our 101 suck.

It is clearly something we are doing wrong...I would guess it has to be psychological. The games this year in which we missed no kicks, there was no pressure to make them. I mean who cares if you go 10 for 10 on kicks against Western Carolina...but that is exactly what Bulovas did.

I saw the stat on the misses and was amazed. Kicking is like a golf swing in ways ... say the water shouldn't be in play, and you will splash … but it just seems that there is more to it. I am sure they have ran a few statistical analysis so I will say this, IF Saban can't figure it out, I damned sure can't. I can't kick or stay out of the water either.

 

[kburjr]

It is worse...the Iron Bowl miss was the 101st missed field goal in Saban's 13 years, more than ANY other FBS program over that span....by 11 different kickers. If we sucked you might could explain it away, because I can guarantee that the only schools within a dozen of our 101 suck.

It is clearly something we are doing wrong...I would guess it has to be psychological. The games this year in which we missed no kicks, there was no pressure to make them. I mean who cares if you go 10 for 10 on kicks against Western Carolina...but that is exactly what Bulovas did.

More tries, more misses. Even though the % may be subpar, the raw # has to do with getting in range

 

[Rolltide94]

More tries, more misses. Even though the % may be subpar, the raw # has to do with getting in range

While true, there are plenty of teams that over the last 13 years have scored way more points than we did, and have missed far fewer field goals.

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

It is worse...the Iron Bowl miss was the 101st missed field goal in Saban's 13 years, more than ANY other FBS program over that span....by 11 different kickers. If we sucked you might could explain it away, because I can guarantee that the only schools within a dozen of our 101 suck.

It is clearly something we are doing wrong...I would guess it has to be psychological. The games this year in which we missed no kicks, there was no pressure to make them. I mean who cares if you go 10 for 10 on kicks against Western Carolina...but that is exactly what Bulovas did.

Last season, we had multiple PAT misses against Arky St., LSU, and the Citadel, and a single miss against Louisville, Arky, and Clemson.

Seems to me we are as likely to miss when there is minimal pressure.

 

[LoftonPack80]

I've only blamed the refs twice in my life and once was a college game so I'm for no bitching about refs. My rule of thumb is if you leave it in their hands at the end of the game you lost the game on your own

 

[Deep Creek]

This is strictly my opinion. Most times, WHEN something is called or not called is more critical than WHAT is called or not called. Again, JMO

 

[Deep Creek]

What is frustrating to me is the system or process not correcting obvious screw ups quickly. No one can tell me that a ref in the booth or watching remotely couldn't have buzzed down in the Alamo Bowl and said "#99 got his helmet ripped off by a Utah player. You missed the first infraction. Penalize Utah for grabbing the face mask and penalize Texas for the player continuing to play after losing his headgear." Offsetting instead of just enforcing only the 2nd infraction. And that shouldn't take more than 15 seconds tops. It was that obvious on replay.

 

[cwerph]

Bad calls not only affect the play the call was made on but may also affect momentum, which is a huge part of sports, especially college sports.

Taking a TD off the board in a tight game, especially a defensive TD, is a killer.

Sometimes, I think the replay referees do not understand the concept of "indisputable".

 

[trojanfan12]

Never. Blaming refs is for the gheys and Boston Celtics fans.