When is it appropriate to cry refs?

[mrwallace2ku]

<see any PAC officiated game for examples needed to fit your narrative here>

 

[cwalke3408]

Yes, what are you saying?

@GreatDayne

 

[kburjr]

@GreatDayne

He tainted the whole group

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

Did they though?

Yes. The fumble.

 

[PnkPanther]

Bad calls not only affect the play the call was made on but may also affect momentum, which is a huge part of sports, especially college sports.

Taking a TD off the board in a tight game, especially a defensive TD, is a killer.

Sometimes, I think the replay referees do not understand the concept of "indisputable".

Or say picking up an obvious targeting penalty that would've erased a pick 6...............but hey, we got an apology at season end and admission that it shouldn't have been picked up

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Yes. The fumble.

You mean the drop?

 

[Deep Creek]

The biggest screw job I saw this year is the one Texas Tech got in the Baylor game.

But that may be because my Baylor brother in law caught shit for a month from his Red Raider wife. Fact, she was still on his ass at Christmas. Priceless.

 

[cwerph]

What's not shocking is that you are still hung up on this call almost a full week later.

go away, troll.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

go away, troll.

You feel that the thread titled "when is it appropriate to cry refs?" is your domain?

To be honest, you are much more experienced in this subject matter than I am...

 

[batchaps4me]

Nothing has changed nor gotten worse:
The Bear's stand, Montana's soup and why Jan. 1, 1979 was the greatest bowl day ever

The Rose Bowl proved to be no match for either of the games that preceded it. However, it did contribute to the historical import of the day, thanks to the second-quarter touchdown by USC tailback Charles White, who leapt from the Michigan 3 toward the goal line. He clearly lost the ball outside the 1-yard-line, clear to everyone except line judge Gilbert Marchman, who thrust his hands to the sky to signal touchdown.

In those days, of course, we waited until the following day to read accounts of the game. On the front of the Los Angeles Times on the morning of Jan. 2, the legendary Jim Murray delivered the precise amount of wisecracking that White's touchdown demanded. Murray made a career out of wisecracks, of course, but few, if any, ever matched his description of this play.

"I don't know about you," Murray wrote, "but where I grew up you were supposed to have the football with you when you went into the end zone for a touchdown. When Charles White 'scored' a touchdown with 7:28 remaining in the second period, he seemed to have forgotten one small detail -- the ball.

"An official decided it was inconsequential. I guess he figured anybody could score carrying the ball. You have to admire a man who can put points on the board without it."

 

[cwerph]

Nothing has changed nor gotten worse:
The Bear's stand, Montana's soup and why Jan. 1, 1979 was the greatest bowl day ever

The Rose Bowl proved to be no match for either of the games that preceded it. However, it did contribute to the historical import of the day, thanks to the second-quarter touchdown by USC tailback Charles White, who leapt from the Michigan 3 toward the goal line. He clearly lost the ball outside the 1-yard-line, clear to everyone except line judge Gilbert Marchman, who thrust his hands to the sky to signal touchdown.

In those days, of course, we waited until the following day to read accounts of the game. On the front of the Los Angeles Times on the morning of Jan. 2, the legendary Jim Murray delivered the precise amount of wisecracking that White's touchdown demanded. Murray made a career out of wisecracks, of course, but few, if any, ever matched his description of this play.

"I don't know about you," Murray wrote, "but where I grew up you were supposed to have the football with you when you went into the end zone for a touchdown. When Charles White 'scored' a touchdown with 7:28 remaining in the second period, he seemed to have forgotten one small detail -- the ball.

"An official decided it was inconsequential. I guess he figured anybody could score carrying the ball. You have to admire a man who can put points on the board without it."

It is decidedly worse. When everything was called on the field, you could see a guy missing a call, even a big one, badly. With the advent of replay review on every play in CFB, there is simply no excuse for missing calls like "did he score?" or "did he catch the pass?" or "did he fumble?".

I'll keep saying it - replay referees have no idea what "indisputable" means (apparently **some** posters don't either). Either that, or they blatantly ignore it because they can.

 

[7Samurai13]

Whenever you are Michigan and lose a game

I agree

 

[batchaps4me]

It is decidedly worse. When everything was called on the field, you could see a guy missing a call, even a big one, badly. With the advent of replay review on every play in CFB, there is simply no excuse for missing calls like "did he score?" or "did he catch the pass?" or "did he fumble?".

I'll keep saying it - replay referees have no idea what "indisputable" means (apparently **some** posters don't either). Either that, or they blatantly ignore it because they can.

If just .00001% of the people that think they could do a better job would apply for officiating jobs, the problem would be solved tomorrow.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Definitely not when you have three calls on field overturned that result in 18 points of swing

 

[Boglodyte]

I agree

Oh, how cute, did your bestie teach you how to do that?

 

[cwalke3408]

 

[Diego Roll Tide]

It is decidedly worse. When everything was called on the field, you could see a guy missing a call, even a big one, badly. With the advent of replay review on every play in CFB, there is simply no excuse for missing calls like "did he score?" or "did he catch the pass?" or "did he fumble?".

I'll keep saying it - replay referees have no idea what "indisputable" means (apparently **some** posters don't either). Either that, or they blatantly ignore it because they can.

Like I said, all that matters is the team involved. If a Bama or tOSU has a terrible call go against us, any mention of it or suggesting it MIGHT be a bad call is met with derision, cries of “whining”, and on here, facepalms. If a call that could be considered close to marginal goes in favor of a tOSU or Bama, if our fans dare accuse anyone of “whining”, it is met with derision and on here, facepalms.

At the end of the day, if your team tends to be well liked (usually means hasn’t done much lately), you can complain and attack the more hated fan bases with immunity. Case in point. If a call goes against LSU, the board will take their side. If a call goes against Clemson, the board will say “tough shit”.

Why? Because while the tOSU hate is enough to overcome recent Clemson success, LSU hasn’t been there in awhile. And for some reason, people are able to forgive O for his transgressions at USC and Tennessee and consider him “likable”.

For now, I just call a bad call a bad call and a good call a good call. If some needle dick in mom’s basement wants to give me a facepalm because he can’t handle Saban’s success or press conferences, he can go for it. Oh, and he can fuck himself as well.

 

[jjc2009]

I’d say the OPI call against ND vs FSU in 2014 would fit this bill. Very weak call that even if could be called would have had no impact on the play. The safety responsible for picking up that receiver was simply out of position and would have never made a play on the ball. That doesn’t get called (and it wasn’t all night) and ND wins.

Technically they had one more shot at 4th and goal from like the 20 but seems that call directly influenced the outcome. But the main point is, don’t ever put it in the refs’ hands.

 

[cwerph]

I want whoever loses to have terrible, game-changing calls go against them. Then they can show the stupid Buckeye fan base how to act when it happens again.

 

[pachyderm]

As a coach you have to teach/prepare your team to overcome bad calls.

That said, I agree there are some things you can't overcome.
They lead to circumstances beyond your control.
That almost happened yesterday to the Texans.

I feel you can blame the refs in all the instances that @OP listed above.