trent williams to browns ?

[Stymietee]

Sorry, I did not. Your the one that inferred there, not me.

OK, since you clearly don't get it, in your original post you cited the example using a "contractor." so for clarity that contractor by inference is Williams correct?

You go on to infer that the situation in your "example" applies to an organization in which everyone is an independent contractor, correct? (It doesn't)

You then by inference talk about how that "contractor" (Williams) has been paid correct?

Now if you disavow the connection between your "example" and the situation as it truly is, then that too, renders your whole attempt moot.

 

[j_y19]

OK, since you clearly don't get it, in your original post you cited the example using a "contractor." so for clarity that contractor by inference is Williams correct?

You go on to infer that the situation in your "example" applies to an organization in which everyone is an independent contractor, correct? (It doesn't)

You then by inference talk about how that "contractor" (Williams) has been paid correct?

Now if you disavow the connection between your "example" and the situation as it truly is, then that too, renders your whole attempt moot.

Missed it again, sty. Keep swinging tho. I’ve got all night.

 

[Stymietee]

Nope, your wrong. Maybe you just didn’t understand.

I understood your "example" perfectly, in fact I used it in my counter to in order to point out its flaws.

 

[j_y19]

I understood your "example" perfectly, in fact I used it in my counter to in order to point out its flaws.

Apparently you didn’t.

 

[Stymietee]

Missed it again, sty. Keep swinging tho. I’ve got all night.

OK, correct where I've missed it, I'm always open to learning new things!

Who's the contractor in your "example?"

How does your "example" apply to the current situation involving Williams"

 

[j_y19]

OK, correct where I've missed it, I'm always open to learning new things!

Who's the contractor in your "example?"

How does your "example" apply to the current situation involving Williams"

You missed it as soon as you tried to tell me what I was inferring.

 

[Stymietee]

You missed it as soon as you tried to tell me what I was inferring.

Oh I see, it wasn't that I corrected your poor example, but rather because I tried to tell you what was inferred, got it!

Nats up 6-2

 

[j_y19]

Oh I see, it wasn't that I corrected your poor example, but rather because I tried to tell you what was inferred, got it!

Nats up 6-2

Sure. If that will make you sleep better. I’m quite comfortable with my example.

 

[Stymietee]

Sure. If that will make you sleep better. I’m quite comfortable with my example.

Sure. If that will make you sleep better.

 

[j_y19]

T

I rarely ever side with players over teams in these types of squabbles. This is different though.

The medical staff is horrible. The culture is horrible. The ownership is horrible

This, I agree with. They are all terrible.

 

[Breed]

good grief! He signed the damn contract! I don’t believe the medical bs one damn bit.

Perfect example. He as in Trent signed the contract. No shit Sherlock, but who did he go into the contract with? Himself? He went into contract with Snyder and Allen. Those ass0s failed to hold up their end of their commitment not only to Trent, but the whole team and the entire fan-base. Fuck them. I hope they hope go to arbitration and Trent and Trent gets an 11 gazillion dollar ruling.

 

[Rowdy]

Perfect example. He as in Trent signed the contract. No shit Sherlock, but who did he go into the contract with? Himself? He went into contract with Snyder and Allen. Those ass0s failed to hold up their end of their commitment not only to Trent, but the whole team and the entire fan-base. Fuck them. I hope they hope go to arbitration and Trent and Trent gets an 11 gazillion dollar ruling.

like I said I can understand both sides, but the reason is a losing culture. Not medical bs.

 

[Laconic37]

While both sides have valid arguments pertaining to the TW debacle I would ask as a fan, did Trent hold up his part of the contract when he was ripping bong loads? Was Trent not cognizant of the dysfunction at Redskins park when he agreed to the contract terms? Is Williams against seeking a second opinion?
Yes, we know the organization is a fucking dumpster fire and the fact that Dan "Dip Shit" Snyder cant see or readily acknowledge what a cantankerous, vile fuck Bruce Is, befuddles the hell out of me. Nevertheless, you set a dangerous precedent giving in to players demands with 2 or more years left on contract. Are NFL contracts in the best interest of players? Hell no, and the players union would be wise to renegotiate and demand contracts guarantee more than just the signing bonus.

 

[Rowdy]

While both sides have valid arguments pertaining to the TW debacle I would ask as a fan, did Trent hold up his part of the contract when he was ripping bong loads? Was Trent not cognizant of the dysfunction at Redskins park when he agreed to the contract terms? Is Williams against seeking a second opinion?
Yes, we know the organization is a fucking dumpster fire and the fact that Dan "Dip Shit" Snyder cant see or readily acknowledge what a cantankerous, vile fuck Bruce Is, befuddles the hell out of me. Nevertheless, you set a dangerous precedent giving in to players demands with 2 or more years left on contract. Are NFL contracts in the best interest of players? Hell no, and the players union would be wise to renegotiate and demand contracts guarantee more than just the signing bonus.

I can get on board with that, but they also need to stop theses players from forcing their way off of teams ie: lev Bell, AB, and now Trent, Jalen Ramsey too

 

[Stymietee]

While both sides have valid arguments pertaining to the TW debacle I would ask as a fan, did Trent hold up his part of the contract when he was ripping bong loads? Was Trent not cognizant of the dysfunction at Redskins park when he agreed to the contract terms? Is Williams against seeking a second opinion?
Yes, we know the organization is a fucking dumpster fire and the fact that Dan "Dip Shit" Snyder cant see or readily acknowledge what a cantankerous, vile fuck Bruce Is, befuddles the hell out of me. Nevertheless, you set a dangerous precedent giving in to players demands with 2 or more years left on contract. Are NFL contracts in the best interest of players? Hell no, and the players union would be wise to renegotiate and demand contracts guarantee more than just the signing bonus.

"While both sides have valid arguments pertaining to the TW debacle I would ask as a fan, did Trent hold up his part of the contract when he was ripping bong loads?"

Depends, because that issue is such that it splits nationally. Many are currently using to alleviate different ailments now while there are other who stand totally against its use. His use at a time in which the league stood against it has been subject to controversy as well. It's recreational as well, and as far as I'm concerned no different than an underage kid smoking cigarettes or an NFl owner bending an elbow in order to drown himself in liquor.

"Was Trent not cognizant of the dysfunction at Redskins park when he agreed to the contract terms? Is Williams against seeking a second opinion?"

He did, in fact that is how he arrived at the conclusion that the team's medical staff was less than desired.

Yes, we know the organization is a fucking dumpster fire and the fact that Dan "Dip Shit" Snyder cant see or readily acknowledge what a cantankerous, vile fuck Bruce Is, befuddles the hell out of me. Nevertheless, you set a dangerous precedent giving in to players demands with 2 or more years left on contract. Are NFL contracts in the best interest of players? Hell no, and the players union would be wise to renegotiate and demand contracts guarantee more than just the signing bonus.

Renegotiating contracts happen all of the time, especially with quarterbacks. Why not with such a valued asset who recognizes his NFL mortality? While it is true that we all want to be in salary cap heaven, the business of sports is a rather selfish enterprise. It is interesting that we opine about this when it happens elsewhere but when it happens to our team, people who routinely post various forms of "fuck you's" towards Dan and Bruce are among the first to stand with them!

BTW: Look for a strike/lockout over guaranteed and guarantees in contracts coming to an National Football League near you!

 

[Stymietee]

I can get on board with that, but they also need to stop theses players from forcing their way off of teams ie: lev Bell, AB, and now Trent, Jalen Ramsey too

In a totally related issue, the movement "forced" by these players came about because there was a purposeful devaluing of certain positions, especially running backs. AB likely has a "condition" that calls for attention outside of the sport. However, the biggest event leading into the next CBA negotiations has been the guaranteed signing of Kirk Cousins. His contract will forever serve as THE reference point in all future negotiations.

 

[skinz2winz]

"While both sides have valid arguments pertaining to the TW debacle I would ask as a fan, did Trent hold up his part of the contract when he was ripping bong loads?"

Depends, because that issue is such that it splits nationally. Many are currently using to alleviate different ailments now while there are other who stand totally against its use. His use at a time in which the league stood against it has been subject to controversy as well. It's recreational as well, and as far as I'm concerned no different than an underage kid smoking cigarettes or an NFl owner bending an elbow in order to drown himself in liquor.

"Was Trent not cognizant of the dysfunction at Redskins park when he agreed to the contract terms? Is Williams against seeking a second opinion?"

He did, in fact that is how he arrived at the conclusion that the team's medical staff was less than desired.

Yes, we know the organization is a fucking dumpster fire and the fact that Dan "Dip Shit" Snyder cant see or readily acknowledge what a cantankerous, vile fuck Bruce Is, befuddles the hell out of me. Nevertheless, you set a dangerous precedent giving in to players demands with 2 or more years left on contract. Are NFL contracts in the best interest of players? Hell no, and the players union would be wise to renegotiate and demand contracts guarantee more than just the signing bonus.

Renegotiating contracts happen all of the time, especially with quarterbacks. Why not with such a valued asset who recognizes his NFL mortality? While it is true that we all want to be in salary cap heaven, the business of sports is a rather selfish enterprise. It is interesting that we opine about this when it happens elsewhere but when it happens to our team, people who routinely post various forms of "fuck you's" towards Dan and Bruce are among the first to stand with them!

BTW: Look for a strike/lockout over guaranteed and guarantees in contracts coming to an National Football League near you!

"Was Trent not cognizant of the dysfunction at Redskins park when he agreed to the contract terms? Is Williams against seeking a second opinion?"

He did, in fact that is how he arrived at the conclusion that the team's medical staff was less than desired.

Lol, same medical staff "failed" him... (On his physical that is)

 

[Sportster 72]

It does not "depend" in regards to the pot use. At the time and it was illegal as ruled by the NFL. So he was aware that he was breaking the rules and has served a suspension.

First you don't go to a sports doctor if you are worried about cancer. You go to an oncologist. He was offered to be sent to the leading oncologist for his personal issue by Snyder.

Since he is not speaking I have to believe this is an excuse. His contract was front loaded so the final two years don't pay him as much as he would like. See, I can assume things too.

 

[Laconic37]

Depends, because that issue is such that it splits nationally. Many are currently using to alleviate different ailments now while there are other who stand totally against its use. His use at a time in which the league stood against it has been subject to controversy as well. It's recreational as well, and as far as I'm concerned no different than an underage kid smoking cigarettes or an NFl owner bending an elbow in order to drown himself in liquor.

I dont buy "it depends"-- while I could give two shits if players smoke weed the league stipulates there are consequences if you choose to do so. Sty- I admire your eloquent prose and you are a rhetorical assassin but from my vantage point you seem to believe TW is completely absolved of any responsibility or accountability on his behalf and that he is an innocent victim. Granted, if Bruce got a whif of Trents malcontent he should have acted upon that and traded him. Bottom line is in life if you and another individual come to an agreement and whether you seal the deal with a handshakeshake or contract it should honored. A Majority of individuals in Society today dont accept responsibilty for their actions. We have created a generation of entitled bitch ass brats who complain about inequity and woe is me pussies who have no fucking idea what it means to have passion or conviction for anything other than social media apps and video games. I apologize for my digression. ✌

 

[Laconic37]

My point towards the end of my diatribe was related to TWs "discomfort with helmet." Didnt the self proclaimed Silverback play with "discomfort" several times throughout his career? Its like saying I have a tummy ache. C'mon Trent, get your fucking ass out on the field and quit making asinine excuses. Trent could be the answer and not the problem if he would embrace his role as leader and captain of this team! Hail