Toughest Conference heading into 2020 season..

[The Derski]

Nailed it.

Big12 is the toughest conference in CFB.

9 conference games, tough non conference tilts. No breaks in November..

The worst program has a NC winner at HC.

Brutal.

 

[Across The Field]

I mean there are 14 schools in the BIG.. the west is lackluster because it doesn't play tosu, um or psu consistently.

The West isn't lackluster though. In fact, they're 10-3 in bowl games over the last 3 years. They're out-playing the Big Ten East. Not only that, there are few, if any, contenders in the West that manage to miss the top 3 teams altogether from the East every year.

 

[Deep Creek]

1. SEC





2. B1G


3. Big 12



4. Pac 12

5. ACC

Accurate...but you forgot the gaps!

 

[Olyduck]

This may seem that way because Ohio State is consistently elite and was so dominant last year, but it's jut not the case. Over the last 3 years, the Big Ten has seen 8 of their 14 teams win 10 or more games. The Big 12 has seen 5 of it's 10 teams hit that mark. Also in that timeframe, the Big 12 has gone 10-11 in bowl games while the Big 10 has gone 16-10.

are we using records from 3 years ago to predict 2020?

 

[Across The Field]

are we using records from 3 years ago to predict 2020?

To predict records? No. When identifying trends in conferences? Yes.

 

[Olyduck]

This may seem that way because Ohio State is consistently elite and was so dominant last year, but it's jut not the case. Over the last 3 years, the Big Ten has seen 8 of their 14 teams win 10 or more games. The Big 12 has seen 5 of it's 10 teams hit that mark. Also in that timeframe, the Big 12 has gone 10-11 in bowl games while the Big 10 has gone 16-10.

Northwestern going 10-3 in 17 means something for 2020 even though they followed it up with 3-9 last year?

 

[Olyduck]

To predict records? No. When identifying trends in conferences? Yes.

a trend of the conference is the easiest to get to 10 wins?

 

[ericd7633]

Accurate...but you forgot the gaps!

Yeah, I would agree there is a big gap between 1 and 2 and then 2 and 3.

 

[PnkPanther]

I mean there are 14 schools in the BIG.. the west is lackluster because it doesn't play tosu, um or psu consistently.

Umm, we have Nebraska

 

[Thiefery]

Umm, we have Nebraska

I forgot about that Juggernaut.. I take back what I said.. B16! B16! b16!

 

[PnkPanther]

I forgot about that Juggernaut.. I take back what I said.. B16! B16! b16!

All in all I think B1G is solid. I would put us behind SEC but that is about it

 

[PnkPanther]

Northwestern going 10-3 in 17 means something for 2020 even though they followed it up with 3-9 last year?

the NW team that went 10-3 wasn't all that good. Their bad offense went absymal last year after their QB graduated.

 

[Thiefery]

All in all I think B1G is solid. I would put us behind SEC but that is about it

I never said it was bad but outside the west, it really isn't as competitive from the top.. But maybe I'm wrong, I mean tosu wasn't nearly that dominant despite the talent level it had in 2018.. now could McMurphy had caused them to play up and down..or being Urban's last year? 2019 was a scary team since they looked like they were on autopilot through conference play. Think the only school that could give them trouble is psu. But I feel that they easily beat them as well.

SEC seems to be open with new QBs at Bama, LSU and GA

Big 12 looks open because ou will be starting a new QB.. osu brings back everyone pretty much including the best RB of 2019 and legit WR Wallace. Texas and Iowa St both bring back it's QBs.

 

[ericd7633]

The West isn't lackluster though. In fact, they're 10-3 in bowl games over the last 3 years. They're out-playing the Big Ten East. Not only that, there are few, if any, contenders in the West that manage to miss the top 3 teams altogether from the East every year.

In the last 3 years they are behind both SEC divisions, Pac 12 North and B1G East. They are right in line with the ACC Atlantic over this timeframe you're giving. The division has gotten better over the last 3 years than they were the first 3 years of the CFP, which was the worst division.

 

[PnkPanther]

I never said it was bad but outside the west, it really isn't as competitive from the top.. But maybe I'm wrong, I mean tosu wasn't nearly that dominant despite the talent level it had in 2018.. now could McMurphy had caused them to play up and down..or being Urban's last year? 2019 was a scary team since they looked like they were on autopilot through conference play. Think the only school that could give them trouble is psu. But I feel that they easily beat them as well.

SEC seems to be open with new QBs at Bama, LSU and GA

Big 12 looks open because ou will be starting a new QB.. osu brings back everyone pretty much including the best RB of 2019 and legit WR Wallace. Texas and Iowa St both bring back it's QBs.

It is currently tOHSU and those fighting for #2.

right now tOHSU recruits at highest level in B1G and it shows. They even gave Wi a head start this year in the title game

 

[Deep Creek]

It is currently tOHSU and those fighting for #2.

right now tOHSU recruits at highest level in B1G and it shows. They even gave Wi a head start this year in the title game

TV network asked them to so that viewers wouldn't change the channel in the 2nd quarter.

 

[Thiefery]

It is currently tOHSU and those fighting for #2.

right now tOHSU recruits at highest level in B1G and it shows. They even gave Wi a head start this year in the title game

Yep, and it's cool to run the ball as much as WI does, but they will always be at a disadvantage if they don't find a difference maker QB and let him throw downfield. You just knew watching that CCG that all it took was a couple explosive plays by tosu to comeback and win it.
Think that was a reason why FLeck had some big success last season.. yet they almost lost to Georgia state or something..at home? Yikes.

 

[PnkPanther]

Yep, and it's cool to run the ball as much as WI does, but they will always be at a disadvantage if they don't find a difference maker QB and let him throw downfield. You just knew watching that CCG that all it took was a couple explosive plays by tosu to comeback and win it.
Think that was a reason why FLeck had some big success last season.. yet they almost lost to Georgia state or something..at home? Yikes.

MN started slow this year and in non conference portion. Lot of people obsessed with that. Early in the year they ran inside zone after inside zone, it was infuriating. They're closer to team that beat PSU than the one that struggled vs SDSU, GSU, and Fresno

 

[HuskerinBig10]

2020 Big 12 OOC 30 opponents

FCS 9 opponents
Western Illinois
Alabama State
North Dakota
Missouri State
New hampshire
Incarnate Word
South Dakota
Prairie View A&M
Eastern Kentucky

FBS teams with losing records 14
Oregon State 5-7
Tulsa 4-8
UTEP 1-11
UTEP 1-11 (yes scheduled twice in the Big 12, hey it is a Texas school)
Arizona 4-8
Vamderbilt 3-9
Army 5-8
Boston College 6-7
Coastal Carolina 5-7
Mississippi 4-8
UNLV 4-8
USF 4-8
Florida State 6-7
Maryland 3-9

FBS teams with winning records 7
LSU 15-0
Alabama 11-2 (assume TCU plays them)
Iowa 10-3
La Tech 10-3
SMU 10-3
Tennessee 8-5
Buffalo 8-5

TCU has the toughest OOC schedule with Alabama, Prairie view A&M, and SMU

Texas Tech, Kansas, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia do not face a team with a winning record.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

2020 B1G OOC 42 Opponents

FCS 8
Tennessee Tech
Illinois State
Southern Illinois
Monmouth
Northern Iowa
Morgan State
South Dakota State
Towson

FBS teams with a losing record 14
UCONN 2-10
UCONN 2-10 scheduled twice Illinois and Indiana
BGSU 3-9
BGSU 3-9 scheduled twice Ohio State and Illinois
Ball State 5-7
Ball State 5-7 scheduled twice Michigan and Indiana
Syracuse 5-7
Northern Illinois 5-7

Northern Illinois 5-7 scheduled twice Iowa and Maryland
Toledo 6-6 dif not go to a bowl so it is a losing record
Miami FL 6-7
boston College 6-7
West Virginia 5-7
San Jose State 5-7

FBS 20 opponents with winning records
Appalachian State 13-1
Oregon 12-2
Memphis 12-2
Notre Dame 11-2
Air Force 11-2
Florida Atlantic 11-3
Cincinnati 11-3
Central Michigan 8-6
Central Michigan 8-6 scheduled twice Northwestern and nebraska
BYU 7-6
BYU 7-6 scheduled twice Minnesota and Michigan State
Western Kentucky 8-4
Buffalo 8-4
Washington 8-5
Arkansas State 8-5
Temple 8-5
Virginia Tech 8-5
Iowa State 7-6
Tulane 7-6
Kent State 7-6 ​