Total Academic Success of Power 5 Football Teams

[DeafOranguntan]

AG, I'm really feeling some deja vu here. How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man? Your school's idiotic administration took one very, very poorly regarded ranking metric (that only considers number of publications and conferences schools attend, with no regard to publication placement or student quality) and ignored all the others to the contrary, even when those rankings are by the same magazine and higher regarded. There's a reason no one considers UW an elite university. Because it's not. It's a fine school, but hovers around schools like Maryland, BYU, UGA, Clemson, etc. This is just so disingenuous and really makes the school look bad.

#59 National University
#20 Public University
#101 Best Value College

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/best-value

On top of that, UW boasts a 3.79 average high school GPA and 1310 SAT. Looking at just the PAC 12, basically every major California school crushes that, with USC a 3.76 and 1400, UCLA a 3.83 and 1365, Berkeley a 3.87 and 1430, and Stanford a 3.94 and 1465. All of those have below 20% admissions rates, Berkeley and Stanford below 10%. UW's admissions are much closer to the schools I mentioned above: BYU has a 3.84 and 1310, Clemson has a 3.75 GPA, and 1305 SAT, Maryland a 3.81 and 1380, UGA a 3.72 and 1281, etc. All of those have around a 50% admissions rate. Those are the admissions scores of schools ranked around #60 for national universities, and are Washington's peers.

But please tell us more about how Washington is #4 in the country, ahead of most of the following schools: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, MIT, Cal Tech, Stanford, Berkeley, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Duke, Wellesley, Chicago, Johns Hopkins, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carleton, UCLA, Pomona, Northwestern, Emory, UVA, Michigan, and Davidson. I could keep going if you really want me to. And I'm happy to list any of their admissions standards, though I think it would look really bad for you were I to do so (as an example, Yale has a 3.97 GPA and a 1515 average SAT, 1.5 standard deviations above Washington's scores).

 

[AlaskaGuy]

AG, I'm really feeling some deja vu here. How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man? Your school's idiotic administration took one very, very poorly regarded ranking metric (that only considers number of publications and conferences schools attend, with no regard to publication placement or student quality) and ignored all the others to the contrary, even when those rankings are by the same magazine and higher regarded. There's a reason no one considers UW an elite university. Because it's not. It's a fine school, but hovers around schools like Maryland, BYU, UGA, Clemson, etc. This is just so disingenuous and really makes the school look bad.

#59 National University
#20 Public University
#101 Best Value College

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/best-value

On top of that, UW boasts a 3.79 average high school GPA and 1310 SAT. Looking at just the PAC 12, basically every major California school crushes that, with USC a 3.76 and 1400, UCLA a 3.83 and 1365, Berkeley a 3.87 and 1430, and Stanford a 3.94 and 1465. All of those have below 20% admissions rates, Berkeley and Stanford below 10%. UW's admissions are much closer to the schools I mentioned above: BYU has a 3.84 and 1310, Clemson has a 3.75 GPA, and 1305 SAT, Maryland a 3.81 and 1380, UGA a 3.72 and 1281, etc. All of those have around a 50% admissions rate. Those are the admissions scores of schools ranked around #60 for national universities, and are Washington's peers.

But please tell us more about how Washington is #4 in the country, ahead of most of the following schools: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, MIT, Cal Tech, Stanford, Berkeley, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Duke, Wellesley, Chicago, Johns Hopkins, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carleton, UCLA, Pomona, Northwestern, Emory, UVA, Michigan, and Davidson. I could keep going if you really want me to. And I'm happy to list any of their admissions standards, though I think it would look really bad for you were I to do so (as an example, Yale has a 3.97 GPA and a 1515 average SAT, 1.5 standard deviations above Washington's scores).

Three unrelated yet respected college rankings sites support UW's academic ranking. Try again.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

AG, I'm really feeling some deja vu here. How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man? Your school's idiotic administration took one very, very poorly regarded ranking metric (that only considers number of publications and conferences schools attend, with no regard to publication placement or student quality) and ignored all the others to the contrary, even when those rankings are by the same magazine and higher regarded. There's a reason no one considers UW an elite university. Because it's not. It's a fine school, but hovers around schools like Maryland, BYU, UGA, Clemson, etc. This is just so disingenuous and really makes the school look bad.

#59 National University
#20 Public University
#101 Best Value College

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/best-value

On top of that, UW boasts a 3.79 average high school GPA and 1310 SAT. Looking at just the PAC 12, basically every major California school crushes that, with USC a 3.76 and 1400, UCLA a 3.83 and 1365, Berkeley a 3.87 and 1430, and Stanford a 3.94 and 1465. All of those have below 20% admissions rates, Berkeley and Stanford below 10%. UW's admissions are much closer to the schools I mentioned above: BYU has a 3.84 and 1310, Clemson has a 3.75 GPA, and 1305 SAT, Maryland a 3.81 and 1380, UGA a 3.72 and 1281, etc. All of those have around a 50% admissions rate. Those are the admissions scores of schools ranked around #60 for national universities, and are Washington's peers.

But please tell us more about how Washington is #4 in the country, ahead of most of the following schools: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, MIT, Cal Tech, Stanford, Berkeley, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Duke, Wellesley, Chicago, Johns Hopkins, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Carleton, UCLA, Pomona, Northwestern, Emory, UVA, Michigan, and Davidson. I could keep going if you really want me to. And I'm happy to list any of their admissions standards, though I think it would look really bad for you were I to do so (as an example, Yale has a 3.97 GPA and a 1515 average SAT, 1.5 standard deviations above Washington's scores).

UW holds No. 4 position on global rankings among US universities

UW is No. 10 in US News Best Global Universities ranking; No. 2 among US public institutions

Rankings: UW is No. 14 in the world, third among U.S. public universities, plus on Money and Washington Monthly best-of lists

UW retains top spot in medicine in U.S. News school rankings; earns other high marks

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[DeafOranguntan]

UW holds No. 4 position on global rankings among US universities

UW is No. 10 in US News Best Global Universities ranking; No. 2 among US public institutions

Rankings: UW is No. 14 in the world, third among U.S. public universities, plus on Money and Washington Monthly best-of lists

UW retains top spot in medicine in U.S. News school rankings; earns other high marks

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Are you really citing the medical school rankings to me, again? Yeah, once you cut out the schools that do research in medicine, which is a number of the elite med schools, UW has a very good medical school. That's unrelated to the college, so that link is worthless. And here's the problem. The USNWR global rankings is not respected at all (very few international rankings are - QS is probably best, but it's not respected that much either). I'd never heard of the Shanghai ranking, so it's not a respected ranking (I'm close to this kind of thing). But I looked into it, and it uses almost identical methodologies to USNWR, so it's incorrect to call them completely unrelated. At any rate, they all primarily consider factors like number of publications and conference attendance (we'll ignore the fact that UW faculty do tons of meaningless articles is terrible journals which no one will ever read, which is a far cry from schools that publish ground-breaking works).

But those factors are completely irrelevant to educational and student quality, which is what is measured by the rankings I showed. It is fraudulent of the University of Washington administration to take a global ranking of number of publications, and then extrapolate from it to say they are the #2 Public University, #3 best value, and #4 University of the Country, while ignoring rankings explicitly designed for those categories, where UW is actually #20, #101, and #59 (of course, ignoring liberal arts schools), respectively, which is hugely different.

But no one is buying your argument AG. I would be shocked if anyone who wasn't a Husky fan on this forum would be willing to say that Washington is the fourth best University in the country. Because it's not even close.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Are you really citing the medical school rankings to me, again? Yeah, once you cut out the schools that do research in medicine, which is a number of the elite med schools, UW has a very good medical school. That's unrelated to the college, so that link is worthless. And here's the problem. The USNWR global rankings is not respected at all (very few international rankings are - QS is probably best, but it's not respected that much either). I'd never heard of the Shanghai ranking, so it's not a respected ranking (I'm close to this kind of thing). But I looked into it, and it uses almost identical methodologies to USNWR, so it's incorrect to call them completely unrelated. At any rate, they all primarily consider factors like number of publications and conference attendance (we'll ignore the fact that UW faculty do tons of meaningless articles is terrible journals which no one will ever read, which is a far cry from schools that publish ground-breaking works).

But those factors are completely irrelevant to educational and student quality, which is what is measured by the rankings I showed. It is fraudulent of the University of Washington administration to take a global ranking of number of publications, and then extrapolate from it to say they are the #2 Public University, #3 best value, and #4 University of the Country, while ignoring rankings explicitly designed for those categories, where UW is actually #20, #101, and #59 (of course, ignoring liberal arts schools), respectively, which is hugely different.

But no one is buying your argument AG. I would be shocked if anyone who wasn't a Husky fan on this forum would be willing to say that Washington is the fourth best University in the country. Because it's not even close.

Google 'University of Washington academic rankings' so we can end this thing. I provided the links already but maybe if you googled them yourself it would ...

 

[Texas Jefe]

Whoa, wait just one darned minute! Does this show Texas higher than Nebraska? SAY IT AINT SO

 

[TheReal_NU]

Google 'University of Washington academic rankings' so we can end this thing. I provided the links already but maybe if you googled them yourself it would ...

LMGTFY

The answer is 59

 

[AlaskaGuy]

LMGTFY

The answer is 59

university of washington academic ranking - Google Search

 

[TheReal_NU]

university of washington academic ranking - Google Search

Same link as mine. Says 59

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Same link as mine. Says 59

You want me to post a screen shot of what my links say because there's several.

 

[TheReal_NU]

You want me to post a screen shot of what my links say because there's several.

Sure.

Just be sure to post the one at the top that says 59

 

[TheReal_NU]

 

[AlaskaGuy]

UW is No. 10 in US News Best Global Universities ranking; No. 2 among US public institutions

Rankings: UW is No. 14 in the world, third among U.S. public universities, plus on Money and Washington Monthly best-of lists

UW holds No. 4 position on global rankings among US universities

UW retains top spot in medicine in U.S. News school rankings; earns other high marks

 

[TheReal_NU]

UW is No. 10 in US News Best Global Universities ranking; No. 2 among US public institutions

Rankings: UW is No. 14 in the world, third among U.S. public universities, plus on Money and Washington Monthly best-of lists

UW holds No. 4 position on global rankings among US universities

UW retains top spot in medicine in U.S. News school rankings; earns other high marks

How come all of your links are from the university?

And you forgot the usnews link.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

@AlaskaGuy is a tard. Of course he ignored the top link.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

These are the 10 best universities in the world

ARWU World University Rankings 2018 | Academic Ranking of World Universities 2018 | Top 500 universities | Shanghai Ranking - 2018

 

[WizardHawk]

Man, AG got some major panties all twisted up here.

 

[TheReal_NU]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...s-news-world-report-best-colleges-of-2018.amp

Fox News says you’re lying

 

[AlaskaGuy]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...s-news-world-report-best-colleges-of-2018.amp

Fox News says you’re lying

Fox news can go suck a dick ... other than Tucker Carlson's show .. that show rocks.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Fox news can go suck a dick ... other than Tucker Carlson's show .. that show rocks.

AlaskaFag really digs the bowties.