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With the players Canada has to choose from they could probably put three teams together & win all three medals.

And yet if Price had finished 8th in the tournament in SV% like Quick did it's quite likely that they wouldn't have won.
 

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And yet if Price had finished 8th in the tournament in SV% like Quick did it's quite likely that they wouldn't have won.

Quick gave up one stinking goal to Canada in the Semifinal game. Nobody would have saved it. If Poile & Burke hadn't left Ryan, Okposo & Yandle at home maybe they could have scored. We'll never know. Burke's hate for Ryan is mind boggling. The scouts for the Ducks were right. He was wrong. Deal with it Burkie.
 

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Quick gave up one stinking goal to Canada in the Semifinal game. Nobody would have saved it. If Poile & Burke hadn't left Ryan, Okposo & Yandle at home maybe they could have scored. We'll never know. Burke's hate for Ryan is mind boggling. The scouts for the Ducks were right. He was wrong. Deal with it Burkie.

He played pretty well in the semi-final game for sure, especially considering how they were dominated as a team in that game. And yet the fact still remains that 7 goalies (with 40% or more of their team's playing time) managed to stop the puck more frequently over the entire tournament than he did.
 
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And yet if Price had finished 8th in the tournament in SV% like Quick did it's quite likely that they wouldn't have won.

Quite likely true. Price played very well. Canada did a good job of keeping opponents to the outside but Price was dynamite and outplayed every goalie he faced.

Quick gave up one stinking goal to Canada in the Semifinal game. Nobody would have saved it. If Poile & Burke hadn't left Ryan, Okposo & Yandle at home maybe they could have scored. We'll never know. Burke's hate for Ryan is mind boggling. The scouts for the Ducks were right. He was wrong. Deal with it Burkie.

This does nothing to address the post that was quoted. Sure, Quick played very well against Canada. One never knows how things may shake out but if he'd played better perhaps they would never have had to face Canada in the first place.

None of Ryan, Okposo or Yandle could have done much to raise Quick's SV%. Goalies are the players that are most easily evaluated by quantitative data (eg. SV%). He didn't stop as many pucks as other guys in this tournament; he doesn't do it on a regular basis in the NHL either.

I'll give him credit for 2 cup runs. Fantastic stuff, but on a day to day basis he just doesn't deliver like some of the other top tier goalies do.
 
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Quick's a weird goalie. He has tremendous athleticism, and he's extremely aggressive, and those two components of his game lead to lots of big, flashy saves which frustrate opponents and can get in their heads. He gets on rolls, perhaps because of just that.

However, he's streaky the other way, too. Because he's so aggressive, he opens himself up to certain attacks if the opponent executes.

I want a goalie who's in control of everything. Who can't be exploited with simple game planning. That's what made Brodeur such a wall. He was a little unconventional, but he was always in control. He put the rebounds where he wanted them; heck, he'd turn the rebounds into outlet passes sometimes. No matter where you were as the shooter, he was in the way. It took excellent execution to beat him, and he was on a lot more often than he wasn't.

Now, obviously Brodeur is an extreme case in the being really good direction, but a goaltender who fits that mold is a lot easier for guys to play in front of much of the time. You know what he's going to be doing, and you know where he's going to be doing it. He helps you out. I just don't see Quick as that goaltender. Talented? Yes. Game-stealing ability? Absolutely. Constant, reliable presence? He can be, but it's just not always the case.
 

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I see Quick as an upgraded Felix Potvin. Potvin XP if you will. Incredible reflexes, game breaking ability and ability to drive opponents mad. Quick is more athletic, Potvin was positionally more sound.

And Potvin flamed out in a spectacular way. Time will tell. There's gonna come a time when those reflexes won't carry you anymore.

I will never argue Quick's success. But I will also never teach any goalie to do what Quick does.
 

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Quite likely true. Price played very well. Canada did a good job of keeping opponents to the outside but Price was dynamite and outplayed every goalie he faced.



This does nothing to address the post that was quoted. Sure, Quick played very well against Canada. One never knows how things may shake out but if he'd played better perhaps they would never have had to face Canada in the first place.

None of Ryan, Okposo or Yandle could have done much to raise Quick's SV%. Goalies are the players that are most easily evaluated by quantitative data (eg. SV%). He didn't stop as many pucks as other guys in this tournament; he doesn't do it on a regular basis in the NHL either.

I'll give him credit for 2 cup runs. Fantastic stuff, but on a day to day basis he just doesn't deliver like some of the other top tier goalies do.

I understand the criticism, however I feel he's the best clutch goalie in the game right now. His record in game 7's speaks for itself.
 

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I understand the criticism, however I feel he's the best clutch goalie in the game right now. His record in game 7's speaks for itself.

I bet if Price had a great record in game 7s ( I have no idea what it is) you'd fault him for allowing series to go 7 games.
 

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I bet if Price had a great record in game 7s ( I have no idea what it is) you'd fault him for allowing series to go 7 games.

That's called a Costanza.

 
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I understand the criticism, however I feel he's the best clutch goalie in the game right now. His record in game 7's speaks for itself.

Yes, he has been clutch in the playoffs (although I would argue much better in the Kings first run to the Cup than this most recent one) and that is likely why he is ranked as high as he is. However, it's tough to ignore his rather pedestrian regular season save percentage over the last three years.
 

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I bet if Price had a great record in game 7s ( I have no idea what it is) you'd fault him for allowing series to go 7 games.

Why would you think that? It ticked me off big time when he got hurt. The last thing I wanted was the Rangers to have a shot at winning the Cup.
 
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