Tony Stewart Apparently Hits Walking Driver With Sprint Car

[4down20]

No, it doesn't. You truly have no clue, do you? The kid was in front of the #45 car at first, then he moved back up the track to the right side of Stewarts car. He wouldn't have been visible to Stewart until he moved back up the track leaving Stewart very little time to react.

Additionally, the crew guy also said that the top wing blocks out an entire car, let alone a person and said that people have no idea how little visibility they actually have in those cars.

So the kid was in front of him, but the wing to the right side of the car blocked the view of him from Tony?

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

You seriously believe he didn't see him until the last second....

They were under caution. They were jogging around the track.

Every body else saw him. People in the fucking stands from across the track saw him. Is Tony's windshield tinted?

The guy in front of Tony said he saw him plain as day ahead of time.

 

[4down20]

Man you're dense sometimes. Not sure anyone said he was actually in front of the car.

What was said was he wasn't nearly as close to the car in front of him as Stewarts which explains why that guy didn't have to gun it to avoid him. You can be both going at a car and actually not in front of it at the same time you know. He was walking down toward it. Plain as day.

So he was to the side of Tony Stewart which is why the right wing was blocking his view of Ward? But Tony ran over him after hitting the gas to turn left more how?

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah, except you're having to exaggerate it to start with.

But at any rate, it's now your butthurt bitch move to bring it up, so enjoy it.

Uh, really. Pretty sure it was you that got all butthurt, claimed you were leaving the SportsHoopla and never coming back, kept right on posting and then when you got called on it, came up with some lame reason.

So, the only butthurt bitch move was made by you.

 

[WizardHawk]

So now the claim is that Tony couldn't see Ward who was in front of Tony on the track.

I haven't said anything differently from day 1. Don't act like my questions have changed. You act like you know for sure he saw him the entire time. I have said it sure doesn't look like it and others have said they didn't see him.

HE WAS NOT IN FRONT OF THE CAR. He WAS coming at it. Those are both true.

 

[4down20]

You seriously believe he didn't see him until the last second....

They were under caution. They were jogging around the track.

Every body else saw him. People in the fucking stands from across the track saw him. Is Tony's windshield tinted?

The guy in front of Tony said he saw him plain as day ahead of time.

It's conflicting about the guy in front of Tony.

The 45 car, the car immediately in front of it, a crewman from his team said the driver said he didn't see Ward until the last second. But a driver in front of the 45 car said he saw him plain as day etc.

So different drivers are saying different things(although the 45 car driver is apparently second hand).

 

[WizardHawk]

You seriously believe he didn't see him until the last second....

They were under caution. They were jogging around the track.

Every body else saw him. People in the fucking stands from across the track saw him. Is Tony's windshield tinted?

The guy in front of Tony said he saw him plain as day ahead of time.

So because people in the stands saw him someone in a car with giant wings covering part of the windshield must have too?

Wow, just fucking wow.

 

[trojanfan12]

So the kid was in front of him, but the wing to the right side of the car blocked the view of him from Tony?

According to the crew guy, yes. Also, as I pointed out, the way those tires stick out past the body of the car, he wasn't in the direct path of the car (where Stewart would easily see him), but to the right (or passenger side, if you will) and still in the path of the tire.

As I said, if this were a NASCAR race and the kid is in the exact same spot in relation to Stewarts car, the kid doesn't get hit.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

So because people in the stands saw him someone in a car with giant wings covering part of the windshield must have too?

Wow, just fucking wow.

Christ, man.

You need to settle the fuck down. We are seeing this from both sides. You are the one who refuses to come across the line and see how things seem a little bit fishy.

Especially given Tony Stewart's past. He has a ridiculous track record that does not make him look good.

 

[trojanfan12]

You seriously believe he didn't see him until the last second....

They were under caution. They were jogging around the track.

Every body else saw him. People in the fucking stands from across the track saw him. Is Tony's windshield tinted?

The guy in front of Tony said he saw him plain as day ahead of time.

Wow, did you really just post the bolded?



Go back and read the explanations given by the crew guy. It's really not that difficult to understand. Of course, the people in the stands saw it. They can see the whole damn track. They could also see the cars behind Stewart that he also couldn't see.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Go back and read the explanations given by the crew guy. It's really not that difficult to understand.

I already see it from your point of view.....

I don't see how you can't see it from ours.

This is Tony Stewart we're talking about here. He's a psycho. Always has been.

 

[4down20]

Uh, really. Pretty sure it was you that got all butthurt, claimed you were leaving the SportsHoopla and never coming back, kept right on posting and then when you got called on it, came up with some lame reason.

So, the only butthurt bitch move was made by you.

Actually, it was in the thread about Saban, and the trolling was so ridiculous that nobody could really say anything intelligent in the debate without a bunch of stupid bullshit. I commented on the quality of the college football forums dropping a ton since the end of the season and did make the statement that I had little interest in being part of such things. The college football forum became just 1 giant forum to see who could take the biggest shit on Saban/Alabama while the rest of you marveled at what wonderful trolls you were because people dared defend say otherwise and were a bit upset about having to login to see 10 threads about Alabama full of troll crap.

Which of course, you and others who are so anxious to troll took and ran with in the way you present now. Which is fine, whatever. Instead of leaving, I just started giving it back. I occasionally still talk about topics seriously, but for the most part I don't even bother any more because that isn't the kind of forum we have here. I went with the flow.

Still, it's pretty much a given that anytime you post in a thread and are at odds opinion wise, you are going to post that same thing. Because it's what you do over and over. How do I know when TF12 is butthurt at me? He makes that post.

Grow the balls to own it at least.

 

[trojanfan12]

I already see it from your point of view.....

I don't see how you can't see it from ours.

This is Tony Stewart we're talking about here. He's a psycho. Always has been.

Because people who actually work on and drive those cars disagree with your point of view. No offense, but I think I'll listen to them before I listen to a guy on a message board whose been to a few races.

 

[4down20]

I haven't said anything differently from day 1. Don't act like my questions have changed. You act like you know for sure he saw him the entire time. I have said it sure doesn't look like it and others have said they didn't see him.

HE WAS NOT IN FRONT OF THE CAR. He WAS coming at it. Those are both true.

Correct, you have not said anything different.

I'm pointing out that the claims of the right wing blocking his view do not add up if Ward was in front of Tony.

I said while ago that if Tony didn't see him, I feel bad for him. I don't know either way, only Tony knows. However, we can look at things and get a general idea of how hard or easy it could have been to see him.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Because people who actually work on and drive those cars disagree with your point of view. No offense, but I think I'll listen to them before I listen to a guy on a message board whose been to a few races.

Okay, buddy.

Continue to be ignorant and stubborn as fuck. Seems to be the American way anymore.

:rollseyes:

 

[4down20]

Because people who actually work on and drive those cars disagree with your point of view. No offense, but I think I'll listen to them before I listen to a guy on a message board whose been to a few races.

It's funny that I posted a quote from a driver in the race and that is ignored like it was never said.

You are actually quoting someone 2nd hand, not the actual driver of the 45. Which is fine, I think it's legit. But it's kinda showing your bias that you don't even consider the one that doesn't meet your view and use the other as "proof".

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I hope Tony mans up and admits he was trying to throw dirt at the kid.

I would laugh for all eternity.

I would also be proud of the guy and gain a ton of respect for him.

 

[#1BostonFan]

Actually, it was in the thread about Saban, and the trolling was so ridiculous that nobody could really say anything intelligent in the debate without a bunch of stupid bullshit. I commented on the quality of the college football forums dropping a ton since the end of the season and did make the statement that I had little interest in being part of such things. The college football forum became just 1 giant forum to see who could take the biggest shit on Saban/Alabama while the rest of you marveled at what wonderful trolls you were because people dared defend say otherwise and were a bit upset about having to login to see 10 threads about Alabama full of troll crap.

Which of course, you and others who are so anxious to troll took and ran with in the way you present now. Which is fine, whatever. Instead of leaving, I just started giving it back. I occasionally still talk about topics seriously, but for the most part I don't even bother any more because that isn't the kind of forum we have here. I went with the flow.

Still, it's pretty much a given that anytime you post in a thread and are at odds opinion wise, you are going to post that same thing. Because it's what you do over and over. How do I know when TF12 is butthurt at me? He makes that post.

Grow the balls to own it at least.

 

[4down20]

According to the crew guy, yes. Also, as I pointed out, the way those tires stick out past the body of the car, he wasn't in the direct path of the car (where Stewart would easily see him), but to the right (or passenger side, if you will) and still in the path of the tire.

As I said, if this were a NASCAR race and the kid is in the exact same spot in relation to Stewarts car, the kid doesn't get hit.

The tire only sticks out 6-8 inches.

The reason the back end hit the guy is because Tony hit the gas which kicked the rear end out towards the guy. It was a bit more than 6-8 inches of tires that sucked him under the tire and spit him out.

 

[trojanfan12]

It's conflicting about the guy in front of Tony.

The 45 car, the car immediately in front of it, a crewman from his team said the driver said he didn't see Ward until the last second. But a driver in front of the 45 car said he saw him plain as day etc.

So different drivers are saying different things(although the 45 car driver is apparently second hand).

True, the crew guy was speaking more to the view from the vehicle though. Remember, there weren't any cars in front of the #45 car blocking his view. So, it would make sense for the #45 car to see Ward him in plenty of time, but for Stewart not to have time.

Think of it like this. You're driving your car in the left lane. I'm driving my car and I'm a little behind you and in the right lane. There is a pedestrian in the street, in front of your car. That person would be visible to you, but not me. The pedestrian moves out of the way of your car just before you maneuver around and puts himself in the path of my car. How am I supposed to avoid that pedestrian?