Tony Stewart Apparently Hits Walking Driver With Sprint Car

[jonvi]

Because that's how those cars are built. Acceleration makes them easier to maneuver and steer. It's likely that he punched the gas so that the car would be easier to maneuver away from Ward. Keep in mind also, that you can see in the video, that Ward moved to avoid the #45 car which is part of the reason that car didn't hit him. The driver of the #45 car had very little time to react. Stewart had even less time.

These quotes are from the facebook page of Mark Tychoniewicz who was part of the crew working on the #45 car:

I tried telling em. The outside tires are much larger than the inside tires. Give it gas and the car pulls to the left. Let off the gas and the car pulls to the right.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

The kid did not go head on at Tony's car

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I watched the video. He got right beside the car and was pointing his finger at him.

 

[trojanfan12]

You need more tissue?

No, but I'll bet you pull your famous

Pretty soon.

 

[4down20]

I tried telling em. The outside tires are much larger than the inside tires. Give it gas and the car pulls to the left. Let off the gas and the car pulls to the right.

But the car kicks out first because there is a lost of traction in the rear, which matters because that is the part of the car he was hit with.

Furthermore is the question of it is even needed to turn at those speeds, and the answer is no there as well. Evidence of which is present in the fact that the 45 car doesn't gun it to get around him either, just turns the wheels.

 

[Psych-Ward]

----------just a little more input for the so called "EXPERTS" Tony was ahead of Kevin when he wrecked,he had no idea that Kevin was the reason for the caution untill he came back around,how could that be premeditated ???--------------

Tony knew he was there and crowded him going into the turn, ultimatley wrecking the kid's car. The car on the outside can get a big advantage slidding through a turn on the outside on dirt. It wasn't premeditated murder, really??? It was just Tony with one of his ego trips thinking he would be a smartass!!!

 

[4down20]

No, but I'll bet you pull your famous

Pretty soon.

Far more likely is for you to harp on it over and over in every single thread you see me in.

 

[trojanfan12]

Please explain to me how that can be plain as day when you don't even see Tony's car until he's hitting the gas and pretty much the kid as well.

I'll try, but it's doubtful you'll understand.

Stewarts car was behind and little higher on the track than the #45 car. Ward came out on the track and evidently realized that he was in front of that car and he moved up the track and out of the way, so that driver didn't have to make much of an adjustment to get around him.

Considering that that there were no cars in front of the #45 car and where Stewart was in relation to the #45 car, it would make sense that the driver of the #45 car would see Ward, but Stewart wouldn't until the last second.

Moving up the track, put him high enough up the track so that he wasn't directly in front of Stewarts car, but was still close enough to get hit by the tire which sticks out pretty far past the body of the car. If these were NASCAR vehicles, the kid wouldn't have gotten hit by the tire.

It's really not that hard to figure out.

 

[trojanfan12]

Far more likely is for you to harp on it over and over in every single thread you see me in.

Probably shouldn't have pulled the ultimate butthurt bitch move and ruined your credibility.

 

[trojanfan12]

The kid did not go head on at Tony's car

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I watched the video. He got right beside the car and was pointing his finger at him.

Didn't say he did. I said that he put himself in a position where he was not directly in front of Stewarts car, but was still in the path of the tire. If it were NASCAR, the kid wouldn't have been hit at all because the tires don't stick out wider than the car.

 

[jonvi]

But the car kicks out first because there is a lost of traction in the rear, which matters because that is the part of the car he was hit with..

I agree with this...but understand he couldn't let off the gas because the car would pull towards the outside. I'm going on the assumption that Stewart didn't see him till it's too late and gunning it was instinctive to try and push the car away from Ward. We are talking of less than a second to respond enough to get the car to move.

Furthermore is the question of it is even needed to turn at those speeds, and the answer is no there as well. Evidence of which is present in the fact that the 45 car doesn't gun it to get around him either, just turns the wheels.

You keep saying the car in front of Stewart didn't gun it. One..he had a hell of a lot more time to react than Stewart. And two...he did gun it, but not as aggressively....because he had more time to react and make a smoother adjustment. Lot's of mud slinging out of those rear tires for you to insist he didn't accelerate.

But really all of this is moot because the prosecution is going to have to prove Stewart's intent was to try and scare or hurt Ward. Unless Stewart caves in court...I just don't see the prosecution having anything to prove Ward tried to scare or hurt Ward.

 

[WizardHawk]

Btw, why didn't the first guy who dodged him and said he didn't see him until the last second not also hit the gas to dodge him, but instead only turned the wheels?

Because Ward wasn't coming at him? This is kind of obvious man. Ward did kind of jump back up and wasn't nearly as close to that car as Stewarts. He was coming at Stewarts car. How you can even ask that says volumes about your expertise. :rollseyes:

 

[trojanfan12]

I agree with this...but understand he couldn't let off the gas because the car would pull towards the outside. I'm going on the assumption that Stewart didn't see him till it's too late and gunning it was instinctive to try and push the car away from Ward. We are talking of less than a second to respond enough to get the car to move.



You keep saying the car in front of Stewart didn't gun it. One..he had a hell of a lot more time to react than Stewart. And two...he did gun it, but not as aggressively....because he had more time to react and make a smoother adjustment. Lot's of mud slinging out of those rear tires for you to insist he didn't accelerate.

But really all of this is moot because the prosecution is going to have to prove Stewart's intent was to try and scare or hurt Ward. Unless Stewart caves in court...I just don't see the prosecution having anything to prove Ward tried to scare or hurt Ward.

Considering that those involved in the investigation have been saying that thus far there is no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing on Stewarts part, it's unlikely that this ever goes to court. Unless Ward's family decides they want to sue Stewart, SprintCar and/or whoever is in charge of the track considering there's a report that the lighting was pretty bad.

 

[4down20]

I'll try, but it's doubtful you'll understand.

Stewarts car was behind and little higher on the track than the #45 car. Ward came out on the track and evidently realized that he was in front of that car and he moved up the track and out of the way, so that driver didn't have to make much of an adjustment to get around him.

Considering that that there were no cars in front of the #45 car and where Stewart was in relation to the #45 car, it would make sense that the driver of the #45 car would see Ward, but Stewart wouldn't until the last second.

Moving up the track, put him high enough up the track so that he wasn't directly in front of Stewarts car, but was still close enough to get hit by the tire which sticks out pretty far past the body of the car. If these were NASCAR vehicles, the kid wouldn't have gotten hit by the tire.

It's really not that hard to figure out.

Tony was up in a higher line, making it more likely to see him considering pitman said it was to the right, not left, that there was trouble viewing in these cars.

If you are saying the guy was in front of Tony Stewart, then it makes it even less likely Tony didn't see him.

If you are saying Tony was behind the 45 initially, then Tony must have moved up over half a line. But that would suggest Tony ran up in a higher line to buzz him. I think that is impossible to know based on the video that is public. All we see is right as Tony is hitting the gas and the guy.

 

[4down20]

Probably shouldn't have pulled the ultimate butthurt bitch move and ruined your credibility.

Yeah, except you're having to exaggerate it to start with.

But at any rate, it's now your butthurt bitch move to bring it up, so enjoy it.

 

[jonvi]

Considering that those involved in the investigation have been saying that thus far there is no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing on Stewarts part, it's unlikely that this ever goes to court. Unless Ward's family decides they want to sue Stewart, SprintCar and/or whoever is in charge of the track considering there's a report that the lighting was pretty bad.

It does look dark in the video. They may have a civil complaint there.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

And Tony Stewart, being the most experienced driver out there.......maybe the best driver in the world......doesn't know that if he just keeps moving without accelerating then the car will not swing outwards at all and everything will be fine.....

Sounds legit.

 

[WizardHawk]

Tony was up in a higher line, making it more likely to see him considering pitman said it was to the right, not left, that there was trouble viewing in these cars.

If you are saying the guy was in front of Tony Stewart, then it makes it even less likely Tony didn't see him.

If you are saying Tony was behind the 45 initially, then Tony must have moved up over half a line. But that would suggest Tony ran up in a higher line to buzz him. I think that is impossible to know based on the video that is public. All we see is right as Tony is hitting the gas and the guy.

Man you're dense sometimes. Not sure anyone said he was actually in front of the car.

What was said was he wasn't nearly as close to the car in front of him as Stewarts which explains why that guy didn't have to gun it to avoid him. You can be both going at a car and actually not in front of it at the same time you know. He was walking down toward it. Plain as day.

 

[trojanfan12]

Tony was up in a higher line, making it more likely to see him considering pitman said it was to the right, not left, that there was trouble viewing in these cars.

If you are saying the guy was in front of Tony Stewart, then it makes it even less likely Tony didn't see him.

If you are saying Tony was behind the 45 initially, then Tony must have moved up over half a line. But that would suggest Tony ran up in a higher line to buzz him. I think that is impossible to know based on the video that is public. All we see is right as Tony is hitting the gas and the guy.

No, it doesn't. You truly have no clue, do you? The kid was in front of the #45 car at first, then he moved back up the track to the right side of Stewarts car. He wouldn't have been visible to Stewart until he moved back up the track leaving Stewart very little time to react.

Additionally, the crew guy also said that the top wing blocks out an entire car, let alone a person and said that people have no idea how little visibility they actually have in those cars.

 

[4down20]

Because Ward wasn't coming at him? This is kind of obvious man. Ward did kind of jump back up and wasn't nearly as close to that car as Stewarts. He was coming at Stewarts car. How you can even ask that says volumes about your expertise. :rollseyes:

So now the claim is that Tony couldn't see Ward who was in front of Tony on the track.

 

[WizardHawk]

And Tony Stewart, being the most experienced driver out there.......maybe the best driver in the world......doesn't know that if he just keeps moving without accelerating then the car will not swing outwards at all and everything will be fine.....

Sounds legit.

And how many times has the 'best driver in the world' (your quote) ever had to react to avoid a pedestrian at the last second in a curve of a dark course on a dirt track? What kind of experience does he have at making that kind of split second decision?

Yeah, thought so.