Tony Stewart Apparently Hits Walking Driver With Sprint Car

[Jack_John_Mark]

Wow, now you too? Is this shit contagious or what?

The fans in the stands were watching him the entire time. They weren't going around corners on a track. I don't care how dark it is when I'm not in a car trying to pay attention to everything it takes to drive I'm going to easily be able to see a dumb ass walking onto a race course with cars still running on it.

Right, and Tony Stewart was going soooooo fast around the track........under caution.

He had no time to see him at all.

 

[trojanfan12]

The people in the stands being able to see him shows that lighting wasn't the issue. If it's light enough for people in the stands to see him, then it's light enough for the drivers to see him. If he didn't see him, it was because of something obstructing his view, not lighting.

I didn't say the lighting was the reason. I said that there were reports that the track wasn't very well lit. I agree that it was more likely that Stewart didn't see him because of obstruction.

The point of the lighting was that it could be pertinent if Wards family wanted to sue the track operators and/or Sprint Car.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Tony has been in Anger Management for the past decade for making snap decisions.

Decisions such as threatening to run over other drivers in the past, throwing punches at drivers, assaulting camera men, throwing helmets at cars.....etc.....

I am not NOT going to call him psycho. He fits the definition of the word.

 

[4down20]

Don't need to. You said it and everyone saw it.

I just pretty much repeated everything I said near word for word.

But whatever, like I said - it's your butthurt move now.

 

[4down20]

Wow, now you too? Is this shit contagious or what?

The fans in the stands were watching him the entire time. They weren't going around corners on a track. I don't care how dark it is when I'm not in a car trying to pay attention to everything it takes to drive I'm going to easily be able to see a dumb ass walking onto a race course with cars still running on it.

It was under caution, it's not hard to drive or anything like that. They weren't racing when the incident happened, Tony was only going 25-35 MPH when he hit Ward.

 

[trojanfan12]

I was just stating little pieces of information that would point towards the other side.....just like you were doing.

See, I'm actually just at a loss for words how you cannot admit that Tony Stewart MAY have gunned it on purpose.

Are you Tony Stewart? Do you know what he was thinking?

You don't know shit, and neither do I.

It's been stated by people who work on and drive those cars as to why Stewart would likely have gunned it. It's part of how they maneuver those cars. They have said that it's likely that he gunned it to maneuver the car around the kid, but it was simply too late.

I agree that I don't know what was going through Stewarts mind anymore than you do. I'm not claiming I do. I'm simply stating what people that know a hell of a lot more about it than you or I have said.

What I wonder is, since those rear tires tend to move to the side when the driver guns the engine to move, if Stewart would have missed the kid if he'd just stayed on the same line instead of trying to maneuver the vehicle?

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

It's been stated by people who work on and drive those cars as to why Stewart would likely have gunned it. It's part of how they maneuver those cars. They have said that it's likely that he gunned it to maneuver the car around the kid, but it was simply too late.

I agree that I don't know what was going through Stewarts mind anymore than you do. I'm not claiming I do. I'm simply stating what people that know a hell of a lot more about it than you or I have said.

What I wonder is, since those rear tires tend to move to the side when the driver guns the engine to move, if Stewart would have missed the kid if he'd just stayed on the same line instead of trying to maneuver the vehicle?

Exactly what I'm wondering.

I wish we could see a different angle.

 

[trojanfan12]

I don't think Tony is psycho, but Tony does have a long history of throwing fits and such. Nascar/Home Depot has forced him to take anger management classes and stuff numerous times.

Honestly, that is one of the reasons I liked Tony in the past. He's a racer. He was one of the only drivers who would say things were screwed up and what he though about things consequences be damned. Think the sport needs more of that.

A lot of these guys are hotheads like that from what I've seen. I agree with you re: him speaking up, consequences be damned and think that all pro sports could use more guys like that.

Hell, as much crap as I've given you and other Bammers over some of the stuff Saban has said, at least he's saying something and not worrying much about the consequences.

 

[4down20]

What I wonder is, since those rear tires tend to move to the side when the driver guns the engine to move, if Stewart would have missed the kid if he'd just stayed on the same line instead of trying to maneuver the vehicle?

That is my whole thing right there. I think he would have missed the kid if he hadn't hit the gas. Because he missed with the front tires, but hit him with the back tire.

 

[trojanfan12]

Exactly what I'm wondering.

I wish we could see a different angle.

Me too. I'm not sure how much difference it would make at this point though other than maybe causing Sprint Car to make some improvements in how those cars are maneuvered.

With the amount of time that it appears that Stewart had, his reaction was probably instinct more than anything.

Hopefully, some good will come of this.

 

[trojanfan12]

That is my whole thing right there. I think he would have missed the kid if he hadn't hit the gas. Because he missed with the front tires, but hit him with the back tire.

Yeah, but that's an awful lot to have to process in a matter of about a split second. My guess would be that he reacted out of instinct.

 

[WizardHawk]

Right, and Tony Stewart was going soooooo fast around the track........under caution.

He had no time to see him at all.

So you keep saying you see other views on this and then follow it up with this before asking why others aren't seeing your views. Bundle of inconsistency here tonight man.

I'm not making any blanket assumptions, only pointing out what others have said and keep saying to let the investigation find those answers.

Past history? So what. Throwing helmets at cars and being a total dick doesn't mean he tried to scare that kid. It isn't proof of anything that happened on that day. You have him not only knowing the kid was there the whole time around the track (again because the people in the stands could see him so the drivers had to as well lol) and intentionally gunning his car to intimidate him and based on what? A video that didn't see what happened right before the accident.

Stop making assumptions and just admit anything is possible.

 

[jonvi]

since those rear tires tend to move to the side when the driver guns the engine to move, if Stewart would have missed the kid if he'd just stayed on the same line instead of trying to maneuver the vehicle?

I don't think TS had the time to think it through. Hitting the gas seems like an oh shit reaction to me to try and get the car to lunge to the left. It didn't work out that way.

The others are thinking he gunned it to sling some dirt at Ward or even give him a bump.

IMO the fault is 100 percent on Ward for being there. It's one of the dumber reactions made by race drivers....but we see it often enough.

Maybe this will wake up the industry.

 

[WizardHawk]

It was under caution, it's not hard to drive or anything like that. They weren't racing when the incident happened, Tony was only going 25-35 MPH when he hit Ward.

So instead of admitting it is really dumb to say it's as easy to see him from the stands as it is from a car driving under caution you keep on adding to it?



The fans in the stands don't have giant wings blocking their view.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

So you keep saying you see other views on this and then follow it up with this before asking why others aren't seeing your views. Bundle of inconsistency here tonight man.

I'm not making any blanket assumptions, only pointing out what others have said and keep saying to let the investigation find those answers.

Past history? So what. Throwing helmets at cars and being a total dick doesn't mean he tried to scare that kid. It isn't proof of anything that happened on that day. You have him not only knowing the kid was there the whole time around the track (again because the people in the stands could see him so the drivers had to as well lol) and intentionally gunning his car to intimidate him and based on what? A video that didn't see what happened right before the accident.

Stop making assumptions and just admit anything is possible.

Shit, man......what rock have you been under?

How many times do I have to say that none of us know anything? Tony Stewart is the only person who knows what happened. I keep saying that.....over and over again.

There is not enough evidence to prove anything right now. I was just trying to get you to see my point of view. I already saw yours.

 

[4down20]

So instead of admitting it is really dumb to say it's as easy to see him from the stands as it is from a car driving under caution you keep on adding to it?



The fans in the stands don't have giant wings blocking their view.

I didn't say that, I said lighting was not the factor and the people in the stands being able to see him shows that. I also said that if it were a matter of not seeing him, it was because of an obstruction, not the amount of light on the track.

And that giant wing only blocks the right side of the car, not the front. It's an uneven wing.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

How would you like to get ran over by that fucking tire right there?

 

[trojanfan12]

I didn't say that, I said lighting was not the factor and the people in the stands being able to see him shows that. I also said that if it were a matter of not seeing him, it was because of an obstruction, not the amount of light on the track.

And that giant wing only blocks the right side of the car, not the front. It's an uneven wing.

The right side of the car is where Ward moved to.

 

[WizardHawk]

I didn't say that, I said lighting was not the factor and the people in the stands being able to see him shows that. I also said that if it were a matter of not seeing him, it was because of an obstruction, not the amount of light on the track.

And that giant wing only blocks the right side of the car, not the front. It's an uneven wing.

The ability for stationary people to see someone has little to nothing to do with the lighting. They knew he hit the wall and it was easy to see him. The vantage of being in a moving car is just entirely different. This should just be obvious.

I do love that you tell someone a couple of posts ago the tires only stick out 6-8 inches from the car and then post a picture with giant back wheels sticking out a lot more than 8 inches from their bodies.

 

[WizardHawk]

That back tire is sticking WAY out away from the vehicle. Also this angle is kind of like looking in at the driver from a similar angle to that of Ward that day. Not a lot of visibility coming out of a turn. Yeah, in a straight away for sure, but not a corner.