Thought on Clyde Edward-Helaire

[HaroldSeattle]

How do you all see this player for FF? Watching game film I was not impressed. He could run the ball and catch the ball lets say "good enough" wasn't outstanding in any way. His best calling card was his 55 catches. Some media analyst claim he the one running back coming out of college that can run routes. Watch several game films and all I saw was dump off, dump off, dump off dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off, dump off. dump off. Can't really remember a pass that traveled further then 10 yards thru the air in any of the games. I sure there must of been a few.
However even a dump off pass for say 5 yards adds up in PPR leagues and nobody passes like the Chiefs do. Also the D is worried about sacking Mahomes and defending the pass, worrying about the run is a secondary concern. So even a OK RB going get some yards.
So where do you rate him in rookie drafts? 1.01 or 1.05 somewhere in between?

 

[TREFF]

all I know is watching film of him, I got bored. His agent has naked pictures of Andy Reid and animals or something. Should not have been drafted until after Vaughn

 

[HaroldSeattle]

all I know is watching film of him, I got bored. His agent has naked pictures of Andy Reid and animals or something. Should not have been drafted until after Vaughn

So you would be willing to draft him at what spot in a rookie draft? No matter if you think he's meh he's going to score for you in PPR leagues I would think.

 

[The Foot]

So you would be willing to draft him at what spot in a rookie draft? No matter if you think he's meh he's going to score for you in PPR leagues I would think.

I actually think he was the best rb coming ou this year. I think he should be 1.1. It's just my opinion but I love the guy. Maybe that should scare some people lol. And on the crazy offence I could see another Brian Westbrook as far as production goes. In fact the only rb I'd rather have then him is mc Caffery and even he worries me now that he just got paid. For where you can get CEH I think in a dynasty he gonna be great for years. I was hoping miami drafted him and I wasnt surprised he was a first round selection by the chiefs. His speed is lacking and that's unusual for me to like a player with no speed so I must really like him but then again I've been wrong many times before so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I actually think he was the best rb coming ou this year. I think he should be 1.1. It's just my opinion but I love the guy. Maybe that should scare some people lol. And on the crazy offence I could see another Brian Westbrook as far as production goes. In fact the only rb I'd rather have then him is mc Caffery and even he worries me now that he just got paid. For where you can get CEH I think in a dynasty he gonna be great for years. I was hoping miami drafted him and I wasnt surprised he was a first round selection by the chiefs. His speed is lacking and that's unusual for me to like a player with no speed so I must really like him but then again I've been wrong many times before so take it with a grain of salt.

Got to say I'm a little surprised, because like you said he's not fast. Just curious if he is lacking in speed, what is it that draws him to you? He's no Derrick Henry with power. I'm guessing you see him as another CMC? Hell on wheels while catching passes?

 

[SteelersPride]

all I know is watching film of him, I got bored. His agent has naked pictures of Andy Reid and animals or something. Should not have been drafted until after Vaughn

I Made my thoughts very well know that he was not in my top 3-4

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I Made my thoughts very well know that he was not in my top 3-4

For those who haven't read your thoughts on him repeat here.

 

[TREFF]

So you would be willing to draft him at what spot in a rookie draft? No matter if you think he's meh he's going to score for you in PPR leagues I would think.

After Dobbins, if Dobbins is still in the board, then he stays, wherever that might be. After that, Andy Reid alone makes him a safer bet than the others

 

[SteelersPride]

For those who haven't read your thoughts on him repeat here.

He's an ok. His speed is a Concern. I feel he's a very average back like round 3-4-5 nfl draft category wise.

Long story short if he wasn't on LSU. No one would of said he was any good..... he was a product of hype and being in the spotlight.......

that being said he went to an unreal offense and is the only rb Reid has ever drafted that high.....

so. The question becomes. Opportunity vs talent.

Jonathan Taylor or CHE. Taylor gets the colts line. But Mack is still there for now. What if they sign Mack n the cheap due to Taylor's massive college workload and don't give him workhorse looks NEXT year. Reid has a stable of backs....but he just spent a round one on a luxury pick. So talent be damned. I'd still gamble on his opportunity, draft status, and that offense. We've seen that anyone can be a star there.....

 

[SteelersPride]

After Dobbins, if Dobbins is still in the board, then he stays, wherever that might be. After that, Andy Reid alone makes him a safer bet than the others

I'd actually have dobbins down the list too. He's still not guaranteed anything yet. Yeah he was taken high. But everyone was pumping another ravens draft pick all the way until the bus drft.....ingrams still there.....you just never know what the offseason brings.....

 

[HaroldSeattle]

He's an ok. His speed is a Concern. I feel he's a very average back like round 3-4-5 nfl draft category wise.

Long story short if he wasn't on LSU. No one would of said he was any good..... he was a product of hype and being in the spotlight.......

that being said he went to an unreal offense and is the only rb Reid has ever drafted that high.....

so. The question becomes. Opportunity vs talent.

Jonathan Taylor or CHE. Taylor gets the colts line. But Mack is still there for now. What if they sign Mack n the cheap due to Taylor's massive college workload and don't give him workhorse looks NEXT year. Reid has a stable of backs....but he just spent a round one on a luxury pick. So talent be damned. I'd still gamble on his opportunity, draft status, and that offense. We've seen that anyone can be a star there.....

So CEH at 1.01 for you?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I'd actually have dobbins down the list too. He's still not guaranteed anything yet. Yeah he was taken high. But everyone was pumping another ravens draft pick all the way until the bus drft.....ingrams still there.....you just never know what the offseason brings.....

Dobbins has moved up and become my guy. Yes year one will be hampered by Ingram. However year two he'll become the work horse for a team that pounds the ball more then anyone, the #2 team is miles behind in carries, average, yards and Ravens do well with TDs to boot. Not a lot of pure work horses in the NFL anymore, but feel Dobbins going to be one. Only thing is you may have to wait some, but no later then next year and it could be sooner. One ankle sprain, one calf pulled and Dobbins takes over this year

 

[TREFF]

I'd actually have dobbins down the list too. He's still not guaranteed anything yet. Yeah he was taken high. But everyone was pumping another ravens draft pick all the way until the bus drft.....ingrams still there.....you just never know what the offseason brings.....

Well none of them are guaranteed anything, CEH still has to beat Dam. Williams, Taylor has to beat Mack, Swift has to beat Kerryon, Vaughn has to beat R. Jones (LMAFO...I almost couldn't type it!!!)
But Dobbins us the only one on the best rushing team in the NFL, and only needs to wait Ingram out. If Baltimore can make a worthless slug like Gus look good, Dobbins just needs to show up

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Vaughn has to beat R. Jones (LMAFO...I almost couldn't type it!!!)

Damn had to laugh at that myself.

 

[SteelersPride]

So CEH at 1.01 for you?

Think u have to take that gamble with the opportunity and that system.....Reid invested...

 

[SteelersPride]

Dobbins has moved up and become my guy. Yes year one will be hampered by Ingram. However year two he'll become the work horse for a team that pounds the ball more then anyone, the #2 team is miles behind in carries, average, yards and Ravens do well with TDs to boot. Not a lot of pure work horses in the NFL anymore, but feel Dobbins going to be one. Only thing is you may have to wait some, but no later then next year and it could be sooner. One ankle sprain, one calf pulled and Dobbins takes over this year

Will he be the guy? We're assuming. We assumed hill would be too. Whose to say they don't bring someone in to split? Or that Ingram resigns cheap? Or that he gets in there and isn't all that and never plays. Guarantees are elsewhere....

 

[SteelersPride]

Well none of them are guaranteed anything, CEH still has to beat Dam. Williams, Taylor has to beat Mack, Swift has to beat Kerryon, Vaughn has to beat R. Jones (LMAFO...I almost couldn't type it!!!)
But Dobbins us the only one on the best rushing team in the NFL, and only needs to wait Ingram out. If Baltimore can make a worthless slug like Gus look good, Dobbins just needs to show up

again. Draft status plays a role. As does Reid never in his life drafting a rb that high....that needs to weigh heavily in everything. Oh and that offense is the beat in the league.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Will he be the guy? We're assuming. We assumed hill would be too. Whose to say they don't bring someone in to split? Or that Ingram resigns cheap? Or that he gets in there and isn't all that and never plays. Guarantees are elsewhere....

Just my take SP, but I'm confident in it.

 

[SteelersPride]

Just my take SP, but I'm confident in it.

If he's your guy take him then.... I just dunno that I can pass on a guy in the chiefs offense.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

again. Draft status plays a role. As does Reid never in his life drafting a rb that high....that needs to weigh heavily in everything. Oh and that offense is the beat in the league.

CEH is just a better version of Damien Williams. Not the route runner per say but better at running the ball. He'll do fine because of the system and potent offense. Dobbins will also be in a potent offense that pounds the ball like no other. You take CEH and I'll take Dobbins and we'll see how it works out.