This year should be interesting to see if the Patriots fumble numbers go up now that they have to...

[VikingsAD28]

Denying Brady cheated and has cheated throughout is career is like denying Pete Rose bet on Baseball and that Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds took steroids. It just makes you look like a fool. Done arguing with fools. Good day gentlemen.

 

[eaglesnut]

So he didn't get sacked less later in his career?

K, just wanted to clear that up

stay angry

Watch him play and when how he gets hit and you'll see why he doesn't fumble as much.

So why don't the Packers fumble more than everyone else since Rodgers has his balls pumped up?

 

[Rock Strongo]

Denying Brady cheated and has cheated throughout is career is like denying Pete Rose bet on Baseball and that Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds took steroids. It just makes you look like a fool. Done arguing with fools. Good day gentlemen.

who says brady didnt cheat?

 

[Rock Strongo]

Watch him play and when how he gets hit and you'll see why he doesn't fumble as much.

So why don't the Packers fumble more than everyone else since Rodgers has his balls pumped up?

prepare for a dirtflection post.

 

[eaglesnut]

Denying Brady cheated and has cheated throughout is career is like denying Pete Rose bet on Baseball and that Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds took steroids. It just makes you look like a fool. Done arguing with fools. Good day gentlemen.

Way to run away before answering the question about the Packers not fumbling more than everyone else.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Watch him play and when how he gets hit and you'll see why he doesn't fumble as much.

So why don't the Packers fumble more than everyone else since Rodgers has his balls pumped up?

Because Rodgers isn't a complete statue back there? And most of his greatness takes place after a play breaks down and he breaks contain?

Brady doesn't stand in the pocket long, the entire Patriot offense is predicated on quick hitting pass patterns....Edelman for 5, Gronk for 8

Rinse, repeat...There isn't much time spent in a Patriot system offense, in the pocket

 

[eaglesnut]

Because Rodgers isn't a complete statue back there? And most of his greatness takes place after a play breaks down and he breaks contain?

Brady doesn't stand in the pocket long, the entire Patriot offense is predicated on quick hitting pass patterns....Edelman for 5, Gronk for 8

Rinse, repeat...There isn't much time spent in a Patriot system offense, in the pocket

So by your logic Rodgers should fumble less because he has longer time to fumble and Brady should fumble more because he has shorter time to fumble. That's amazing.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Oh Running Backs for the Packers?

Shit, hell if I know

But I do KNOW DEFLATED a Football absolutely increases the chances of not losing that ball, especially when you throw inclement weather into the mix..

That is stuff we all found out as kids if you ever played with a football that didn't have air in it

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

So by your logic Rodgers should fumble less because he has longer time to fumble and Brady should fumble more because he has shorter time to fumble. That's amazing.

I know that less air in a football = increased chances of NOT fumbling

I know BJGE broke the record for most carries without a fumble as a Patriot and than became a chronic fumbler with the Bengals

We could all draw our own conclusions, but these 2 things are indisputable facts

 

[Rock Strongo]

Oh Running Backs for the Packers?

Shit, hell if I know

But I do KNOW DEFLATED a Football absolutely increases the chances of not losing that ball, especially when you throw inclement weather into the mix..

That is stuff we all found out as kids if you ever played with a football that didn't have air in it

"i played at wisconsin in december"

 

[Rock Strongo]

I know that less air in a football = increased chances of NOT fumbling

I know BJGE broke the record for most carries without a fumble as a Patriot and than became a chronic fumbler with the Bengals

We could all draw our own conclusions, but these 2 things are indisputable facts

and stevan ridley fumbled 9 times

 

[Clayton]

deadspin >>> you

Why Those Statistics About The Patriots' Fumbles Are Mostly Junk

WTF Why did you make me click on a Deadspin link? That site is terrible. All of their snark and they still have to deal with the Patriots anomalies and they can't. They just say that people are messing with the graph axis and missed one or two misc stats.

The reality is that even their 2nd place sampling of prime Peyton Colts teams were in a dome and notably more prone to fumbling. And thats their tied for 2nd place example.

The Patriots cheated and had an advantage or they are a statistical near impossibility. Either way, the fumbling will go up this year.

 

[eaglesnut]

WTF Why did you make me click on a Deadspin link? That site is terrible. All of their snark and they still have to deal with the Patriots anomalies and they can't. They just say that people are messing with the graph axis and missed one or two misc stats.

The reality is that even their 2nd place sampling of prime Peyton Colts teams were in a dome and notably more prone to fumbling. And thats their tied for 2nd place example.

The Patriots cheated and had an advantage or they are a statistical near impossibility. Either way, the fumbling will go up this year.

Yeah they're probably going to have a 1st time QB for 1/4 of the year. But you guys that are easily impressed by shady statistics can't grasp the reality that actually creates those statistics.

 

[eaglesnut]

I know that less air in a football = increased chances of NOT fumbling

I know BJGE broke the record for most carries without a fumble as a Patriot and than became a chronic fumbler with the Bengals

We could all draw our own conclusions, but these 2 things are indisputable facts

So you agree. Your logic was retarded.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Way to run away before answering the question about the Packers not fumbling more than everyone else.

Rodgers said he likes his balls over-inflated. He didn't say he over-inflated them.

Big difference.

 

[Clayton]

Yeah they're probably going to have a 1st time QB for 1/4 of the year. But you guys that are easily impressed by shady statistics can't grasp the reality that actually creates those statistics.

A good portion of the sports stat community if from MIT and are Pats fans. If this was a different team, stat junkies would actually be making an even bigger deal about it.

 

[NEhomer]

In all the fumbles and INTs since 2007 why did not one single opposing player report the ball feeling softer?

 

[Rock Strongo]

In all the fumbles and INTs since 2007 why did not one single opposing player report the ball feeling softer?

That woukd make too much sense.

 

[Manster7588]

Rock, he has a point. If fumbles increase by a statistically significant amount it will raise eyebrows, especially considering the extremely low turnover rate of the Patriots over the last 13 years. But as you alluded, the change in turnover rates has to be maintained over a few seasons... So although it will be interesting, a correlation cannot be viewed accurate unless the change is maintained over time.

All I need to see is one fumble in week one and I'm sold that Brady's deflated balls were easier for their RB's to hold onto.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

so did they give ridley a different ball?

Yes. They gave him one of A rog's balls. That would explain why GB leads the league in fumbles. What? They don't, does that makes sense? You don't fumble and underinflated ball or an overinflated ball?