Game Thread: Thee 2022 nfl draft

[Clayton]

Did the Cowboys just admit that the Giants got their 2 best players in the draft?

Also, by their board they reached because Lewis Cine is their clear BPA I think

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

Bengals got alot of speed and some to spare on defense now. Gonna be long practice days fixing tackling tnough.

 

[Manster7588]

Did the Cowboys just admit that the Giants got their 2 best players in the draft?

Also, by their board they reached because Lewis Cine is their clear BPA I think

Yes and Yes, but depending on how far ahaed they had Cine OT is a much more pressing need. Dallas didn't give 32 players 1st round grades, looking at the list Cine was a 1st rounder Smith wasn't, but that doesn't necessarily mean Cine was worthy of the 13 as he was 13 on their or if he were actually worth the 31st and then how far into the 2nd was Smith.

Looking at the list Olave and Smith were 1-2 in the 2nd rd, so IF Cine was worth the 31st and Smith the 34, it's not a great reach.

However if Cine was worth the 13 and Smith the 34, Dallas screwed the pooch.


For what it's worth I never considered Cine in this Draft and while not my first Choice I did see Smith as a viable option, if all the DLs and Ols ahead of him were gone. The way the Draft fell I wanted Johnson.


All that said, I'd never trust Jerry to protect our nations secrets. He leaks more than a rusted faucet.

 

[Clayton]

Yes and Yes, but depending on how far ahaed they had Cine OT is a much more pressing need. Dallas didn't give 32 players 1st round grades, looking at the list Cine was a 1st rounder Smith wasn't, but that doesn't necessarily mean Cine was worthy of the 13 as he was 13 on their or if he were actually worth the 31st and then how far into the 2nd was Smith.

Looking at the list Olave and Smith were 1-2 in the 2nd rd, so IF Cine was worth the 31st and Smith the 34, it's not a great reach.

However if Cine was worth the 13 and Smith the 34, Dallas screwed the pooch.


For what it's worth I never considered Cine in this Draft and while not my first Choice I did see Smith as a viable option, if all the DLs and Ols ahead of him were gone. The way the Draft fell I wanted Johnson.


All that said, I'd never trust Jerry to protect our nations secrets. He leaks more than a rusted faucet.

All I can say about Tyler Smith is that I thought he was an interesting prospect that would go higher than people thought. I had him mocked to the Saints in rd1. Even if he was a reach, I think he is a reach multiple teams would have gone after just due to positional value and upside.

Chiefs passed on Cine twice so I hope that the Dallas big board was a bit flawed.

 

[ducky]

All I can say about Tyler Smith is that I thought he was an interesting prospect that would go higher than people thought. I had him mocked to the Saints in rd1. Even if he was a reach, I think he is a reach multiple teams would have gone after just due to positional value and upside.

Chiefs passed on Cine twice so I hope that the Dallas big board was a bit flawed.

 

[Manster7588]

All I can say about Tyler Smith is that I thought he was an interesting prospect that would go higher than people thought. I had him mocked to the Saints in rd1. Even if he was a reach, I think he is a reach multiple teams would have gone after just due to positional value and upside.

Chiefs passed on Cine twice so I hope that the Dallas big board was a bit flawed.

I think now the issue is people are saying Dallas didn't pick BPA off thier board, iI even mentioned it on the Cowboys board.

Personally I am a BPA drafter with a lean to need.

The calculations of "BPA /w Need lean" could be different for each of us. To me its if the next 3 or 4 BPA are not needed or slight need, but the 4th/5th is a NEED, First option. You skip to the need.
Second Option. If you can you try to trade back a little pick up an extra pick and get the guy you would have pick anyway, of course you risk losing out on that guy.
Third option. Simply pick the BPA.


IMO had Dallas picked Cine, they'd be getting ripped harder by the fans and media.

 

[shopson67]

I think now the issue is people are saying Dallas didn't pick BPA off thier board, iI even mentioned it on the Cowboys board.

Personally I am a BPA drafter with a lean to need.

The calculations of "BPA /w Need lean" could be different for each of us. To me its if the next 3 or 4 BPA are not needed or slight need, but the 4th/5th is a NEED, First option. You skip to the need.
Second Option. If you can you try to trade back a little pick up an extra pick and get the guy you would have pick anyway, of course you risk losing out on that guy.
Third option. Simply pick the BPA.


IMO had Dallas picked Cine, they'd be getting ripped harder by the fans and media.

It's never just raw BPA, as teams don't need to overpopulate a given position to the detriment of others.

In an ideal world, the need aspect would be mostly covered by FA prior to the draft.

 

[Clayton]

It's never just raw BPA, as teams don't need to overpopulate a given position to the detriment of others.

In an ideal world, the need aspect would be mostly covered by FA prior to the draft.

The gist I've gotten is that BPA as a term in this draft really isnt too relevant. Travon Walker is 7th on the Cowboys board? I think the GM's overall team building strategy is what is in play here. Use FA to find guys who are somewhat common. Draft guys who are somewhat rare. That seems to be the name of the game atm.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

It's never just raw BPA, as teams don't need to overpopulate a given position to the detriment of others.

In an ideal world, the need aspect would be mostly covered by FA prior to the draft.

Yes roster construction has to play a important part in deciding who you draft.

 

[shopson67]

Yes roster construction has to play a important part in deciding who you draft.

That said, sometimes an elite talent being available changes your plans.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

That said, sometimes an elite talent being available changes your plans.

Yes then you better be correct about that player being elite, that word (elite) gets thrown around for players who are not actually elite a lot.

 

[PDay8810]

Yes then you better be correct about that player being elite, that word (elite) gets thrown around for players who are not actually elite a lot.

A whole lot

 

[Manster7588]

Yes then you better be correct about that player being elite, that word (elite) gets thrown around for players who are not actually elite a lot.

Like Wentz?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Like Wentz?

yup

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I think now the issue is people are saying Dallas didn't pick BPA off thier board, iI even mentioned it on the Cowboys board.

Personally I am a BPA drafter with a lean to need.

The calculations of "BPA /w Need lean" could be different for each of us. To me its if the next 3 or 4 BPA are not needed or slight need, but the 4th/5th is a NEED, First option. You skip to the need.
Second Option. If you can you try to trade back a little pick up an extra pick and get the guy you would have pick anyway, of course you risk losing out on that guy.
Third option. Simply pick the BPA.


IMO had Dallas picked Cine, they'd be getting ripped harder by the fans and media.

I agree.
BPA can be over looked by a need if the gap between the two are small.

 

[Southieinnc]

Cole Strange? Lol

'A freak among the freaks': Cole Strange's athleticism wows his trainer and Patriots coach

A feature story on Patriots first-round pick and his extraordinary athleticism.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Southieinnc]

For once I hope an Olineman doesn't work out for you guys....

'A freak among the freaks': Cole Strange's athleticism wows his trainer and Patriots coach

A feature story on Patriots first-round pick and his extraordinary athleticism.

www.yahoo.com

 

[NWPATSFAN]

For once I hope an Olineman doesn't work out for you guys....

Oh come on, we have enough struggles drafting WRs to offset it.