The SportsHoopla QB Rankings: Pt. 5

[MHSL82]

so andrew luck and cam arent listed but kaep and flacco and wilson are?

Andrew Luck is there now. Redid the poll hours ago, about an hour after the first. Wilson/Flacco may not be the next best, but they won a SB - even if you think it's lucky or because of defense, at this stage, Cam and Luck have not. Cam and Luck have not gone to the conference finals. He could be in the next poll. I haven't thought of that yet. You can vote "other" and note and if people agree, they will vote for him or have brought him up before. I wish there was more than 12 spots there (11 players and one Other).

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

I would prob. go Ben or Rivers (either) for #5, but how in the F is Luck leading this poll? I get he improved his second year but are you kidding? Guy played in an absolute CUPCAKE division and CUPCAKE schedule (I get the Colts do not make the schedule, dur, but facts are facts) and he's all the sudden top 5 QB?

Put Luck in the NFC West and he's a low/sub 80 QB rating at best. Yes I get he doesn't have the run game/D of a Seattle (and not implying Wilson is top 5 - if you follow me at all my top 5 in a previous thread DOES NOT include Wilson) but that's the point. The cupcake division he plays in IMO offsets with the D/run game Kaep/Wilson have, who mind you BOTH have better stats/playoff win % than Luck.

 

[MHSL82]

I would prob. go Ben or Rivers (either) for #5, but how in the F is Luck leading this poll? I get he improved his second year but are you kidding? Guy played in an absolute CUPCAKE division and CUPCAKE schedule (I get the Colts do not make the schedule, dur, but facts are facts) and he's all the sudden top 5 QB?

Put Luck in the NFC West and he's a low/sub 80 QB rating at best. Yes I get he doesn't have the run game/D of a Seattle (and not implying Wilson is top 5 - if you follow me at all my top 5 in a previous thread DOES NOT include Wilson) but that's the point. The cupcake division he plays in IMO offsets with the D/run game Kaep/Wilson have, who mind you BOTH have better stats/playoff win % than Luck.

If that's the case, it should be Rivers, I feel Big Ben is no longer top five if he ever was - Rivers, I could see repeating last year, even without Whisenhunt and tougher defense.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Really impossible to grasp the overrating of Wilson. A good, but limited QB on strong team. Is it the Super Bowl ring that does it? Is Trent Dilfer ranked ahead of Marino? Is Eli Manning ranked ahead of his brother?

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Really impossible to grasp the overrating of Wilson. A good, but limited QB on strong team. Is it the Super Bowl ring that does it? Is Trent Dilfer ranked ahead of Marino? Is Eli Manning ranked ahead of his brother?

If you're comparing Wilson or E. Manning to Dilfer GTFO.

Second, a lot of people were placing E. Manning top 5 during the late part of the first decade in the 2000s.

Wilson has had better season QB ratings in BOTH years than either Dilfer or Manning in their careers.

C'mon man, try harder.

 

[Smart]

Wilson has the #2 QB Rating in NFL history behind a line that is considered one of the worst in the league and with a receiving corp that most would consider below average. I know people are tired of my Wilson-Luck comparisons, which I've been doing for three years now, but the message is clear. Russell's numbers are laughably better with a worse supporting cast (on offense, at least). It's been true every year. At some point, people need to quit pretending Russell's a fluke, and realize he is really fucking good.

Russell is probably the #2 player behind a bad line (only Rodgers is better). When the line is playing well, a few other QBs jump past him. I still don't see how anyone could have him beneath #5 overall.

 

[WizardHawk]

Really impossible to grasp the overrating of Wilson. A good, but limited QB on strong team. Is it the Super Bowl ring that does it? Is Trent Dilfer ranked ahead of Marino? Is Eli Manning ranked ahead of his brother?

Jesus, get over your case of the ass burn from Wilson. I mean you actually tired to tell us Romo is better so your cred is sub zero. You also clearly never watched a game if your view is he is limited. His stats say otherwise and he has been doing it with the worst offensive line in the league statistically and did it without any marquee WR's to throw to.

Some of us believe the line is improved next year and they will have both of their main WR's back which should propel him even more. There hasn't been a single game in his two years that he lost because of late game mistakes. He has won several on last drives for scores. Disprove any of that or accept you don't know nearly as much about his career to this point as you believe you do.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Wilson has the #2 QB Rating in NFL history behind a line that is considered one of the worst in the league and with a receiving corp that most would consider below average. I know people are tired of my Wilson-Luck comparisons, which I've been doing for three years now, but the message is clear. Russell's numbers are laughably better with a worse supporting cast (on offense, at least). It's been true every year. At some point, people need to quit pretending Russell's a fluke, and realize he is really fucking good.

Russell is probably the #2 player behind a bad line (only Rodgers is better). When the line is playing well, a few other QBs jump past him. I still don't see how anyone could have him beneath #5 overall.

The only folks that have him top 5 are the ones with a Seahawks or Badgers avatar like yourself:rollseyes:

 

[UK Cowboy]

Jesus, get over your case of the ass burn from Wilson. I mean you actually tired to tell us Romo is better so your cred is sub zero. You also clearly never watched a game if your view is he is limited. His stats say otherwise and he has been doing it with the worst offensive line in the league statistically and did it without any marquee WR's to throw to.

Some of us believe the line is improved next year and they will have both of their main WR's back which should propel him even more. There hasn't been a single game in his two years that he lost because of late game mistakes. He has won several on last drives for scores. Disprove any of that or accept you don't know nearly as much about his career to this point as you believe you do.

Romo is better LMAO. You are a Seattle fan. Go find some non Seahawks or Badgers fan who believe Russell Wilson is a top 5 QB.....waiting.....Crickets

 

[UK Cowboy]

Jesus, get over your case of the ass burn from Wilson. I mean you actually tired to tell us Romo is better so your cred is sub zero. You also clearly never watched a game if your view is he is limited. His stats say otherwise and he has been doing it with the worst offensive line in the league statistically and did it without any marquee WR's to throw to.

Some of us believe the line is improved next year and they will have both of their main WR's back which should propel him even more. There hasn't been a single game in his two years that he lost because of late game mistakes. He has won several on last drives for scores. Disprove any of that or accept you don't know nearly as much about his career to this point as you believe you do.

Romo has the 5th best QB rating ever for a career. Russell Wilson has proven he can win a Super Bowl on a team that has a great defense and running game. In other words, he has proven he is at least Trent Dilfer

 

[SonnyCID]

The only folks that have him top 5 are the ones with a Seahawks or Badgers avatar like yourself:rollseyes:

Peope that have see a lot of him?

Everyone else is behind the curve but you'll catch on eventually. While your waiting for a bunch of hindsight and putting guys that have no business being ahead of him, we already know we're watching one of the best QBs in the league.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Peope that have see a lot of him?

Everyone else is behind the curve but you'll catch on eventually. While your waiting for a bunch of hindsight and putting guys that have no business being ahead of him, we already know we're watching one of the best QBs in the league.

Carry on, Homer

 

[SonnyCID]

Romo has the 5th best QB rating ever for a career. Russell Wilson has proven he can win a Super Bowl on a team that has a great defense and running game. In other words, he has proven he is at least Trent Dilfer

How was Dilfer doing after year 2?

Hell, what happened to Dilfer after his SB win?

And its funny that you lean on QB rating with Romo. Guess who has a higher career QB rating than your guy? Here's a hint, it's not Trent Dilfer.

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Romo has the 5th best QB rating ever for a career. Russell Wilson has proven he can win a Super Bowl on a team that has a great defense and running game. In other words, he has proven he is at least Trent Dilfer

And Romo hasn't even proven to be that.

 

[kcden]

Romo is better LMAO. You are a Seattle fan. Go find some non Seahawks or Badgers fan who believe Russell Wilson is a top 5 QB.....waiting.....Crickets

There are actually Cowboys' fans that would put Romo in the Top 32 QB's in the league?
That's pretty shocking.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Wilson has 12 votes, and there are at least 7 Seahawks avatars that have commented. Sorry, but just because Homer's vote for their own guy doesn't make him the 6th best QB in the league

 

[jakedog56]

Romo is better LMAO. You are a Seattle fan. Go find some non Seahawks or Badgers fan who believe Russell Wilson is a top 5 QB.....waiting.....Crickets

LMAO!! You clearly:
a) know nothing about football or.......
b) have never watched Wilson play

Funnier than hell that you call other people homers while at the same time you try to pump Romo the human choke job!

 

[WizardHawk]

Carry on, Homer

Says the guy who believes Romo is a top 10 QB.

Own a mirror?

 

[Mr. Tacoma]

"Ah, Tony Romo, My Old Friend, We Meet Again," by The Month of December

 

[dkmightyhammer]

Wilson has 12 votes, and there are at least 7 Seahawks avatars that have commented. Sorry, but just because Homer's vote for their own guy doesn't make him the 6th best QB in the league

Can we subtract the Pittsburgh fans who voted for Rothelisburger and the Indy fans who voted for Luck too? Or do you only get to subtract Seahawk fan votes?