THE PAC 12 THREAD v.3

[The Oldtimer]

Yeah, that was the point. I've never been to another state where you can't drink anywhere near a gaming area. Just seems odd.

Yes it is very odd

 

[OregonDucks]

1. Portland sucks.

2. I thoroughly enjoy sitting at gaming tables having cigarette smoke being blown into my lungs by the overweight 60 year old with an oxygen mask, but cant have an alcoholic beverage to wash it down with.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Well it's no secret Native Americans at times have trouble with booze.

Many employees are NA as well as folks that gamble.

The particular tribe from the Spirit Mtn Casino is especially bad. I grew up 5 miles from the res.

 

[WABLTY]

Well it's no secret Native Americans at times have trouble with booze.

Many employees are NA as well as folks that gamble.

The particular tribe from the Spirit Mtn Casino is especially bad. I grew up 5 miles from the res.

Reservations can be pretty rough places. They're basically ghettos unless the casino brings in huge money. Some of Minnesota's casinos are (or were, haven't been in years) like that, too. I think it's up to the res.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Reservations can be pretty rough places. They're basically ghettos unless the casino brings in huge much money. Some of Minnesota's casinos are (or were, haven't been in years) like that, too. I think it's up to the res.

In this case I am pretty sure it was up to the tribe.

 

[OregonDucks]

if I were the tribes, I would turn the reservations into mini Las Vegas'....im sure their business would increase.

 

[The Oldtimer]

1. Portland sucks.

2. I thoroughly enjoy sitting at gaming tables having cigarette smoke being blown into my lungs by the overweight 60 year old with an oxygen mask, but cant have an alcoholic beverage to wash it down with.

LOL, love this comment, probably because it's true!!!

 

[WABLTY]

if I were the tribes, I would turn the reservations into mini Las Vegas'....im sure their business would increase.

Not really how local casinos work. Vegas is Vegas. Atlantic City is getting destroyed despite being right next to New York. Branson is a joke. Reno is a joke. Lots of places wanted to be like Vegas, but it's a highlander sort of thing. There can be only one. The Indian casinos are catering to their local market and a lot of the time they're going to get the business regardless of whether they let people get really sauced while they gamble. Most are just old bitties in to pull the slot arm and watch the lights flash every so often. Probably decided it's more trouble than it's worth.

 

[OregonDucks]

Not really how local casinos work. Vegas is Vegas. Atlantic City is getting destroyed despite being right next to New York. Branson is a joke. Reno is a joke. Lots of places wanted to be like Vegas, but it's a highlander sort of thing. There can be only one. The Indian casinos are catering to their local market and a lot of the time they're going to get the business regardless of whether they let people get really sauced while they gamble. Most are just old bitties in to pull the slot arm and watch the lights flash every so often. Probably decided it's more trouble than it's worth.

All the casinos in Oregon are in the middle of nowhere...Most take a decent travel time to get to and all they offer is gaming.....with occasional special events.

The only reservation, IMO, in Oregon that is worth anything to stay at and enjoy is Warm Springs which is located in Central Oregon.

Spirit Mountain is a day trip to gamble for a few hours. Chinook at the coast is something to do at the beach if you happen to be near by.

 

[WABLTY]

All the casinos in Oregon are in the middle of nowhere...Most take a decent travel time to get to and all they offer is gaming.....with occasional special events.

The only reservation, IMO, in Oregon that is worth anything to stay at and enjoy is Warm Springs which is located in Central Oregon.

Spirit Mountain is a day trip to gamble for a few hours. Chinook at the coast is something to do at the beach if you happen to be near by.

Right, because we stuck the reservations in the middle of nowhere. That isn't uncommon. Mystic Lake and Treasure Island are near Minneapolis and I assume make tons of money, but there are still several other little ones scattered all over the state, getting those farmer dollars. Most can't justify a big resort. Nobody's going to come in enough numbers to make it anything other than a money pit. Low budget casinos will still get the people who are hooked in.

 

[OregonDucks]

Right, because we stuck the reservations in the middle of nowhere. That isn't uncommon. Mystic Lake and Treasure Island are near Minneapolis and I assume make tons of money, but there are still several other little ones scattered all over the state, getting those farmer dollars.

I may be wrong here, and way off....but isn't Des Moines iowa a reservation? Or do they just have casinos everywhere?

Also, what about Oklahoma City? isn't there casinos everywhere there? Reservation or just city allowing casinos?

 

[WABLTY]

I may be wrong here, and way off....but isn't Des Moines iowa a reservation? Or do they just have casinos everywhere?

Also, what about Oklahoma City? isn't there casinos everywhere there? Reservation or just city allowing casinos?

Des Moine is like a little city, or the closest thing Iowa can claim to one without trying to claim Omaha as part of the Council Bluffs area. If there's a res in the area, I'm sure they're trying to cater to the town, but it's probably not in the city. I'm sure it's outside on res land.

I don't know much about OKC since I've only ever been passing through, but it wouldn't shock me at all if the area had a lot of reservation stuff around considering the area's history.

 

[Vitamike]

Yes it is very odd

Dodgers, Lakers, Rams & Trojans....
Three out of four ain't bad.

Go Bruins!

 

[WizardHawk]

Couple of things since we are talking about stuff that's right up my alley.

Yeah OD, we have laws against smoking indoors here so you get to drink at the tables and not have to breath in smoke. At least at the non tribal casinos. The tribes all have smoking and non smoking wings to accommodate both. But there is no gaming where you can't drink and play. We are required by law to stop people from playing when they get drunk, but come on. We all know how that works right?

Oregon doesn't allow drinking because it was part of their state compact. None of them are allowed to have drinking in gambling areas. It was a shrewd, albeit odd, mandate from the Oregon legislature at the time gaming was opened up. They didn't want the tribes to be able to take advantage of drunk people on their tables. If there is now indeed a tribe serving drinks at the tables then something has changed in their compact since I last reviewed it. Believe me, it wasn't a voluntary thing on the part of any of the tribes.

 

[WABLTY]

If there is now indeed a tribe serving drinks at the tables then something has changed in their compact since I last reviewed it. Believe me, it wasn't a voluntary thing on the part of any of the tribes.

I don't think it would completely out of the realm of possibility that a casino would self-ban liquor. Mystic Lake is, I believe, the largest of the Indian casinos in MN and they self-banned per the local Dakota tribe for decades. Only recently lifted it.

 

[WizardHawk]

I don't doubt that, but I read up on the tribal compacts around the NW and saw that in the Oregon one. WA has the WORST tribal compacts in the US. This state doesn't raise one penny of taxes and the only concession they have is on how they define slots machines vs lottery slots (the latter is all that is allowed, but players can't really tell the difference).

 

[SUBuddha]

 

[HammerDown]

Dude looks like a lady.

 

[WizardHawk]

Great, now I'm going to have Steven Tyler stuck in my head for the next 4-5 hours.

 

[socaljim242]

Weird. I tried to look for schools that recruited him but I couldnt find him on rivals or scout or 247 and I went to the stanford site on rivals and couldnt find him.

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