THE PAC 12 THREAD v.3

[Vitamike]

There are a lot of possibilities as to what could have gotten it to this point. One would be how it was brought about in the first place. It could be that the kid got a lawyer and they filed the suit without first trying to negotiate with USC.

It could also be that they tried to negotiate with USC, but didn't like USC's response. I'm sure his family is involved in some way in this (as they should be), so who knows what they are saying/demanding?

It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. Unless the kids lawyer has some proof that Kiffin and/or other coaches actually did force the kid to play, he likely loses this case if it actually goes to trial. Which is why I hope they just settle out of court to take care of/help the kid.

This is pretty astute tf and I fear it's probably dead on. If this kid was actually forced to play with a concussion and the University knows this, it's a shame they are fighting this just because they, like you, believe the Lawyer cannot provide the burden of proof necessary to win the case.

BTW I don't think this is isolated event with USC. Organizations with their Lawyers don't really care about what is actually right or wrong just what can be proven in a court of law.

There is no justice in that mind set and like I said earlier it is just shameful...

 

[trojanfan12]

This is pretty astute tf and I fear it's probably dead on. If this kid was actually forced to play with a concussion and the University knows this, it's a shame they are fighting this just because they, like you, believe the Lawyer cannot provide the burden of proof necessary to win the case.

BTW I don't think this is isolated event with USC. Organizations with their Lawyers don't really care about what is actually right or wrong just what can be proven in a court of law.

There is no justice in that mind set and like I said earlier it is just shameful...

When it comes to athletes, I believe that universities should have a similar approach to what the military has re: those who serve. One of my closest friends suffered an injury in the Army while performing his duties as a soldier. He already was receiving lifetime medical through the VA, but he also gets money each month because he suffered an injury that led to future issues (or however they phrase it). If memory serves, he actually gets re-assessed every so often and if there are further issues with his injury, he gets a bump in what he receives monthly.

I think universities should do the same. If a kid suffers an injury that leaves them with potential future health issues (beyond normal "wear and tear" from their sport), then the university should take responsibility for their care.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

White Mamba, please delete my account.

What's this guy doing in this thread? Why not in the BIGGIE thread? College football thread? Dallas Cowboy team thread? Spurs team thread?

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Oooooooohhhhhh!

"Little boy Bruin...HE NEEDED THE MONEY!"

 

[WizardHawk]

What's this guy doing in this thread? Why not in the BIGGIE thread? College football thread? Dallas Cowboy team thread? Spurs team thread?

Guess he thought there were mods here that gave a fuck about his crying?

 

[trojanfan12]

Hey Wallace, USC's coaches think a lot of your boy Mannion.


Defensive Backs Coach Keith Heyward: "This is a pro-style offense. Sean Mannion's a great quarterback. When he throws balls, they're going to be on time. They're going to be accurate. He can fit them into tight spaces. We've got to be there on those receivers."

 

[Vitamike]

"Little boy Bruin...HE NEEDED THE MONEY!"

Oh that's fucked up Wallace!!

 

[RegentDenali]

It's not over yet, but I think everyone in the PAC has got to say that last nights game was one of the key games of the season to determine the PAC south champ.

Yes. Lots more FB left to play and ASU will be getting Kelly back sometime this year.

But, this was one of the key games to the PAC south crown and UCLA dominated it.

It's looking like a two horse race with USC and UCLA now for the south.

 

[TheDayMan]

It's not over yet, but I think everyone in the PAC has got to say that last nights game was one of the key games of the season to determine the PAC south champ.

Yes. Lots more FB left to play and ASU will be getting Kelly back sometime this year.

But, this was one of the key games to the PAC south crown and UCLA dominated it.

It's looking like a two horse race with USC and UCLA now for the south.

Based on last night's game, I don't think it matters who ASU gets back, unless it's a new defense...

 

[Ironbreaker]

It's not over yet, but I think everyone in the PAC has got to say that last nights game was one of the key games of the season to determine the PAC south champ.

Yes. Lots more FB left to play and ASU will be getting Kelly back sometime this year.

But, this was one of the key games to the PAC south crown and UCLA dominated it.

It's looking like a two horse race with USC and UCLA now for the south.

Yeah the winner of this game has won the south every year.

I'm not sleeping on Utah though. They have a good team. South is going to be fun to watch this year, thats for sure.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

Good job UCLA, good job.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Hey Wallace, USC's coaches think a lot of your boy Mannion.


Defensive Backs Coach Keith Heyward: "This is a pro-style offense. Sean Mannion's a great quarterback. When he throws balls, they're going to be on time. They're going to be accurate. He can fit them into tight spaces. We've got to be there on those receivers."

They are correct, Sean runs into trouble when pressured by the front 7, I expect to see a lot of that come Sat night TF. IF given time, Mannion will torch anyone's team.

 

[Vitamike]

Yeah the winner of this game has won the south every year.

I'm not sleeping on Utah though. They have a good team. South is going to be fun to watch this year, thats for sure.

Neither will the Bruins. I expect both teams with be 4-0 record and ranked next week when they play at the Rose Bowl...

Last week's win @ Michigan opened eyes all around the CFB landscape! A good showing v the Cougs and the Utes move into the Top 25.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

Oh that's fucked up Wallace!!

OOOOOOhhhooooooooooooooo!


That comic is a "classic" Mike.

 

[Not Neutral]

It's not over yet, but I think everyone in the PAC has got to say that last nights game was one of the key games of the season to determine the PAC south champ.

Yes. Lots more FB left to play and ASU will be getting Kelly back sometime this year.

But, this was one of the key games to the PAC south crown and UCLA dominated it.

It's looking like a two horse race with USC and UCLA now for the south.

Short sighted, Regent. How is ASU's inexperience on defense, no surprise to anyone, added to the inexperience at QB, make that a key game? Did you really think ASU had a chance? Success against the North will determine who wins the South. Zona and Utah will also have a say.

 

[Vitamike]

So I've heard a lot of speculation on the Bruins moving up in the rankings as a top ten team again but nothing on where the Sun Devils will be.

So I thought I'd ask all yous PAK12ers....

I know there is a lot of football left to play this week but say the top 25 favorites win out....

I don't see them falling hard because they lost to a higher ranked team and played with their backup QB. But still that was an Azz whippin at home none the less.

 

[WhiteMamba]

Sun Devils won't be a top 25 IMO.

 

[Ironbreaker]

Back in the top 10 in my book.

UCLA has explosive playmakers on both sides of the ball, and special teams as well.

The thing that concerns me with them is consistency, penalties, that o-line and the running game. Might get into trouble against the pac schools that have a good d-line and pass rush.

Later in the season I think Stanford is going to be wrecking teams as well. Once that highly ranked o-line starts to gel they are going to be brutal, and you guys play them at the end of year. Their D already looks very solid.


Might end up playing them twice in a row actually. If they can scrape by until those 4 and 5 star recruits figure out they are unstoppable...

 

[Vitamike]

OOOOOOhhhooooooooooooooo!


That comic is a "classic" Mike.

Yep, the Dice man had a pretty good schtick back in the day....

 

[WhiteMamba]

Uh Oh