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THE PAC 12 THREAD v.3

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SUBuddha

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Usually I find your points well reasoned, even when I disagree, but the assumptions you make here are just plain wrong.

To be honest, you are really taking risks going to any stadium with your logos on your car. Hell, I don't have husky or seahawk stuff on mine out of concern over random jackasses in parking lots. Also if I take a bus or other transport to a game you know there are assholes that break into cars looking for people obviously at the game and not going to be back for a while.

It's called understanding your surroundings and minimizing risk.

Of course it's not ok for people to do those things, but honestly they are going to happen anywhere and you kind of have to be smarter about where you park and/or what you have on your car.
I had a license plate frame on my truck, which still had WA plates. I did not have any other logos on there, and it still had my Lake Washington High sticker on the canopy. I parked at my buddies off campus apartment, not at the stadium. I was, for a lack of a better term, practicing situational awareness.

To say one needs to be smarter about where we park or what they have on their car implies that while you do not agree, it is to be expected. That is BS, one should never have to expect and plan for vandalism over a freaking license plate frame. Human decency should be the expectation, not assholes with keys.

I do not piss and moan about how many times I have had to replace the feet (and arm with wrench) on my evolve fish on my MC. I have, sadly, come to expect that level of intolerance for the tongue and cheek symbol of my lack of faith, I do, after all, live in heavily religious state (as far as the west coast goes), but the bike itself has never been harmed. To intentionally cause physical harm to another person's vehicle is just a cowardly and low class maneuver, no matter what they have on it. First amendment applies to what you put on your vehicle, otherwise cops would be pulling over Raider fans with their F**# The Rest window stickers for public nuisance left and right in this town.
 

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My life has taught me it's better to expect trouble and plan accordingly than to assume others are decent folk.

Drunken sports fans don't get a pass on that mindset.
 

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My life has taught me it's better to expect trouble and plan accordingly than to assume others are decent folk.

Drunken sports fans don't get a pass on that mindset.

When it comes to my life IB that is my mind set, it is why I carry everyday, especially on the MC, but expecting damage to an inanimate object...cowards do that shit.

In other words leave my shit alone, but if you have issues with me as a person.....
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but expecting damage to an inanimate object...cowards do that shit.

The worlds full of them, and drunken fools as well.
 

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Going to take a shot at PAC power rankings

1 Oregon
2 Stanford
3 UCLA
4 Arizona State
5 Utah
6 Southern Cal
7 Oregon State
8 Arizona
9 Washington
10 Washington State
11 California
12 Colorado
 
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Week 5 PAC12 pickem

Thursday:

UCLA @ Arizona State +4 1/2

Saturday:

Colorado @ California -13 1/2

Oregon State @ Southern Cal -9 1/2

Washington State @ Utah -11 1/2

tiebreaker: pick final score

Stanford @ Washington +7 1/2
 

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UCLA @ Arizona State +4 1/2
Colorado @ California -13 1/2
Oregon State @ Southern Cal -9 1/2
Washington State @ Utah -11 1/2
Stanford @ Washington +7 1/2

Stanfurd 17
UW 9
 

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UCLA @ Arizona State +4 1/2

Saturday:

Colorado @ California -13 1/2

Oregon State @ Southern Cal -9 1/2

Washington State @ Utah -11 1/2

tiebreaker: pick final score

Stanford @ Washington +7 1/2

Trees 38. Doogs 24
 

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UCLA @ Arizona State +4 1/2

Saturday:

Colorado @ California -13 1/2

Oregon State @ Southern Cal -9 1/2

Washington State @ Utah -11 1/2

tiebreaker: pick final score

Stanford @ Washington +7 1/2

Furd 28 Huskies 17
 

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Wiz-
Usually I find your points well reasoned, even when I disagree, but the assumptions you make here are just plain wrong.

I had a license plate frame on my truck, which still had WA plates. I did not have any other logos on there, and it still had my Lake Washington High sticker on the canopy. I parked at my buddies off campus apartment, not at the stadium. I was, for a lack of a better term, practicing situational awareness.

To say one needs to be smarter about where we park or what they have on their car implies that while you do not agree, it is to be expected. That is BS, one should never have to expect and plan for vandalism over a freaking license plate frame. Human decency should be the expectation, not assholes with keys.

I do not piss and moan about how many times I have had to replace the feet (and arm with wrench) on my evolve fish on my MC. I have, sadly, come to expect that level of intolerance for the tongue and cheek symbol of my lack of faith, I do, after all, live in heavily religious state (as far as the west coast goes), but the bike itself has never been harmed. To intentionally cause physical harm to another person's vehicle is just a cowardly and low class maneuver, no matter what they have on it. First amendment applies to what you put on your vehicle, otherwise cops would be pulling over Raider fans with their F**# The Rest window stickers for public nuisance left and right in this town.


I agree that we should be able to attend any sporting event anywhere with whatever license plate frames, bumper stickers, etc. that we want and be able to return to our vehicles to find them untouched.

However, I agree with Wiz. It's best to just be smart and aware of one's surroundings and what could possibly happen to your vehicle while it's left unattended. It's unfortunate that we can't count on simple human decency to prevail, but with some fans, that just isn't the case.
 

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UCLA @ Arizona State +4 1/2

Saturday:

Colorado @ California -13 1/2

Oregon State @ Southern Cal -9 1/2

Washington State @ Utah -11 1/2

tiebreaker: pick final score

Stanford @ Washington +7 1/2

Stanford 24 Washington 20
 

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Thursday:

UCLA @ Arizona State +4 1/2

Saturday:

Colorado @ California -13 1/2

Oregon State @ Southern Cal -9 1/2

Washington State @ Utah -11 1/2

tiebreaker: pick final score

Stanford @ Washington +7 1/2

S 34 UW 21
 

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Thursday:

UCLA @ Arizona State +4 1/2

Saturday:

Colorado @ California -13 1/2

Oregon State @ Southern Cal -9 1/2

Washington State @ Utah -11 1/2

tiebreaker: pick final score

Stanford @ Washington +7 1/2

Washington 34 Trees 27



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Wiz-
Usually I find your points well reasoned, even when I disagree, but the assumptions you make here are just plain wrong.

I had a license plate frame on my truck, which still had WA plates. I did not have any other logos on there, and it still had my Lake Washington High sticker on the canopy. I parked at my buddies off campus apartment, not at the stadium. I was, for a lack of a better term, practicing situational awareness.

To say one needs to be smarter about where we park or what they have on their car implies that while you do not agree, it is to be expected. That is BS, one should never have to expect and plan for vandalism over a freaking license plate frame. Human decency should be the expectation, not assholes with keys.

I do not piss and moan about how many times I have had to replace the feet (and arm with wrench) on my evolve fish on my MC. I have, sadly, come to expect that level of intolerance for the tongue and cheek symbol of my lack of faith, I do, after all, live in heavily religious state (as far as the west coast goes), but the bike itself has never been harmed. To intentionally cause physical harm to another person's vehicle is just a cowardly and low class maneuver, no matter what they have on it. First amendment applies to what you put on your vehicle, otherwise cops would be pulling over Raider fans with their F**# The Rest window stickers for public nuisance left and right in this town.
I was also speaking to Oly who said his car was vandalized and I believe he said he had Oregon stuff on it so this was not just about your statement. So I will take exception to me being totally wrong. :nod:

As I said, I do not have seahawk or husky stuff on my own vehicle and I should have less to worry about. I do not put any type of bumper stickers or other such on my vehicles. There will ALWAYS be some asshole that feels compelled to show you their views of those by way of vandalizing your vehicle and I simply choose to not put myself in those situations.

Mamba believes if you do that you are letting those assholes win, but frankly my enjoyment of my favorite teams isn't diminished in any way by my not decorating my car or taking the other steps I do for personal and property security.

It's different for me because I do not drive to the game. I take a party bus in and our bus stands out like a sore thumb and is heavily identified as being Husky (school bus painted purple with logos and whatnot). So my car gets left unattended in a parking lot. Having even a license plate for the school increases the risk my car gets broken into while I'm at the game and I choose not to take those risks.

Now, even if I was going to autism to watch UW I would still wear my colors and everything else I do to any other game. I do travel in numbers if I go on a road game. Wouldn't catch me going down a dark alley near the stadium wearing my gear, but that's again just using common sense.
 

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I really have to "lite up" my cable again...:bawling:

Yes you do. October is nearing though. Maybe some fish, beef, shine, and Modelo are in order when it's hooked up at the Wallace manor on an upcoming Saturday.
 
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