The official Super Bowl LIII Thread

[Battlelyon]

Do you mean how well those RBs played like Gurley? I guess NE has faced better QBs and they haven't faired to well.

Michael Thomas is better than any WR the Pats have played, and he didn't do anything Sunday.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Talib is garbage. He'll either get a DPI or hold that will cost his team in the SB. It may not be the only thing but it will be part of it.
He doesn't know this Flores D so he's no helo there. Sure he may know the receivers tendancies but he can't stop those quick slants unless he holds or interfers with one of them.

Cooks as great as he's been couldn't understand the NE playbook when he was here or have any desire to fight for the ball. Not sure what he's going to add? Cooks will be like ok guys I've seen this before when Brady points to his head he usually changes the play. OK guys go stop him.
The best way to stop Cooks would be to give him a NE playbook.

Oh come on @Battlelyon don't get angry. What are those two going to bring to the table to help beat NE? Wade may find something but it won't be from either of those two.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Michael Thomas is better than any WR the Pats have played, and he didn't do anything Sunday.

Does he play RB or QB? Next you'll try bringing up who has better water boys.
Slow down you're out of your league just enjoy the playoff expirience.

 

[Battlelyon]

Talib is garbage. He'll either get a DPI or hold that will cost his team in the SB. It may not be the only thing but it will be part of it.
He doesn't know this Flores D so he's no helo there. Sure he may know the receivers tendancies but he can't stop those quick slants unless he holds or interfers with one of them.

Cooks as great as he's been couldn't understand the NE playbook when he was here or have any desire to fight for the ball. Not sure what he's going to add? Cooks will be like ok guys I've seen this before when Brady points to his head he usually changes the play. OK guys go stop him.
The best way to stop Cooks would be to give him a NE playbook.

This take is garbage, Talib is garbage, please

 

[Battlelyon]

Does he play RB or QB? Next you'll try bringing up who has better water boys.
Slow down you're out of your league just enjoy the playoff expirience.

It's a fact the Rams have shut down better running backs this postseason, I can't help it you don't like that fact. So you ignore and move on to QBs, yeah, you better group of QBs, but Brees is better than Rivers and Mahomes. Not only is arguably the most accurate passer, but a Super Bowl winner and was undefeated at home in the playoffs. No Mahomes or Rivers can match that fact, go rest.

 

[Battlelyon]

You want talk coaches, Payton was undefeated at home and a Super Bowl winner. Andy Reid isnt't. Those the facts.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

This take is garbage, Talib is garbage, please

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Those 8 games he played in must've been against "better RBs", please son you post stats all day. The eye test alone should tell you. Mark my words he'll get flagged even with Parry ad the ref. He's not quick enough to stay with JE on slants. Worse case BB will just run Hogan or Patterson on go routes to take Talib away. Play zone and Brady will have a field day.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

It's a fact the Rams have shut down better running backs this postseason, I can't help it you don't like that fact. So you ignore and move on to QBs, yeah, you better group of QBs, but Brees is better than Rivers and Mahomes. Not only is arguably the most accurate passer, but a Super Bowl winner and was undefeated at home in the playoffs. No Mahomes or Rivers can match that fact, go rest.

Really?
Your problem is your some gen stat guy who thinks it's all about #s. Worse you're using historical data. But have fun with believing Brees with his worn out arm was a better QB in the playoffs.

Quick qiestion who do you think wins MVP this year?

 

[redseat]

Coca Cola will be pulling out of the Super Bowl.... Well... Only have one ad JUST prior to kick off

 

[NWPATSFAN]

You want talk coaches, Payton was undefeated at home and a Super Bowl winner. Andy Reid isnt't. Those the facts.

OK moving onto coaches now. Keep throwing things against the wall something will stick.

So based on your thinking the Rams shouldn't even show up because stat wise BB and boy wonder aren't in the same galaxy.

I tried warning you to slow down. You're out of your league.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Michael Thomas is better than any WR the Pats have played, and he didn't do anything Sunday.

It was beautiful wasn't it?

No matter.

NE will just concuss Cooks and your down to not much......

 

[Battlelyon]

Those 8 games he played in must've been against "better RBs", please son you post stats all day. The eye test alone should tell you. Mark my words he'll get flagged even with Parry ad the ref. He's not quick enough to stay with JE on slants. Worse case BB will just run Hogan or Patterson on go routes to take Talib away. Play zone and Brady will have a field day.

Oh I agree he has lost a step, but has took a step forward in on the field leadership. To say he is garbage is ridiculous

 

[Hank Kingsley]

This take is garbage, Talib is garbage, please

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Not what he once was when he was grabbing Gronks jersey...

 

[Battlelyon]

OK moving onto coaches now. Keep throwing things against the wall something will stick.

So based on your thinking the Rams shouldn't even show up because stat wise BB and boy wonder aren't in the same galaxy.

I tried warning you to slow down. You're out of your league.

Funny you should say that because McVay said we might as well not show up in his press conference leading to the Saints game. When I mentioned the difference in coaches, it is about experience. And the fact that Payton is a better playoff coach than Andy Reid, his record certainly proves that

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Funny you should say that because McVay said we might as well not show up in his press conference leading to the Saints game. When I mentioned the difference in coaches, it is about experience. And the fact that Payton is a better playoff coach than Andy Reid, his record certainly proves that

I've got pond scum in my backyard that is a better playoff coach that Andy Reid.

Couldn't out eat him though.

 

[Battlelyon]

Really?
Your problem is your some gen stat guy who thinks it's all about #s. Worse you're using historical data. But have fun with believing Brees with his worn out arm was a better QB in the playoffs.

Quick qiestion who do you think wins MVP this year?

Of course Drew Brees arm strength has tailed, so he is not smart enough to compensate in other areas. Did he forget what it takes to win, does he lots of experience.

 

[BigKen]

Patriots have positive history against Wade Phillips defenses

By
Shalise Manza Young
January 7, 2013


Wade Phillips’s tenure as head coach in Buffalo and Dallas may not have ended well, but he is well-regarded as a defensive coordinator, and rightfully so: in six of the last seven years, defenses that Phillips has been in charge of have finished ranked in the top 10 in the league.

His units are always near the top of the league in sacks, are frequently stingy on third down, make it tough to run, and don’t surrender many points.

Despite all that, the Patriots don’t often struggle offensively when he is on the opposing sideline, and they hope that continues Sunday when they host the Texans in the playoffs.

Last month’s win over Houston was the third straight victory for New England against a Phillips-coached defense, going back to his days with the Chargers.

Call it the Norv Turner Effect. Whenever Bill Belichick was getting ready to face Turner’s Chargers, he invariably would be complimentary of the team and then say that Turner’s offense — which he’d carried with him through previous stops in San Francisco, Oakland, Washington, and other organizations — does what it does.

Against other teams Turner’s offense had success. Against Belichick’s Patriots the Chargers weren’t able to score more than three touchdowns in four of five meetings with New England during Turner’s tenure. Belichick had Turner figured out.

So it is with a Phillips defense, or at least it seems.

Heading into the game with Houston Dec. 10, Belichick was asked about Phillips and what characteristics his defenses have. Belichick said the coordinator has kept his system the same through all of his recent coaching stops.

“It’s not a myriad of formations and different personnel groupings and all that. They basically have the same guys on the field for a high percentage of the time. This isn’t the most complicated team we’ve ever seen but what they do, they do well,’’ Belichick said. “They have a lot of multiples and variables but it’s contained within the system. They do it every week; you have to deal with it every week.’’

Which sounds quite a bit like what Belichick would say about Turner’s offense.

When Houston arrived at Gillette Stadium for Monday Night Football, the Texans had one of the best all-around defenses in the NFL: allowing 18.4 points per game (fourth in the league), 332.6 total yards (sixth), 87.6 rushing yards (second), and a third-down conversion rate of 28.4 percent (first).

All Tom Brady & Co. did was carve up Houston for 42 points, 419 total yards, and 130 rushing yards, converting half of their 12 third-down opportunities.

It was a similar result in 2007, when Phillips, then with the Cowboys, and Patriots met for a Week 6 regular-season game of epic proportions — both teams came into the game at 5-0, and it was hyped to no end, with then-Dallas receiver Terrell Owens calling himself “the original 81,’’ a shot at Randy Moss, who was wearing No. 81 with New England, and telling fans to get their popcorn ready.

The only thing that wasn’t ready, apparently, was Phillips’s defense. Dallas had allowed an average of 285 yards to its first five opponents, and the Patriots came in to Texas Stadium and rolled up 448 yards, with Brady completing two-thirds of his passes for 388 yards, five touchdowns, and no interceptions.

New England won, 48-27.

In 2006, Phillips was the coordinator for a 14-2 Chargers team that had rolled to the top seed in the AFC when New England arrived in San Diego for a divisional-round matchup.

Brady had to make do that season with a second-rate group of receivers and wasn’t in command of an offense like the ones we’ve become accustomed to seeing the last five or six years.

Statistically, the difference wasn’t that stark between what the Chargers had allowed and what the Patriots totaled that day, but the fact remained that a defense that had totaled 61 sacks and averaged nearly two turnovers per game that year couldn’t hold onto the lead — or a game-sealing interception — in the closing minutes.

Some of the problem for Phillips and his defenses simply could be playing against one of the best quarterbacks of this or any generation.

But in a fight of strength against strength, Brady against Phillips’s D, shouldn’t the results be more back and forth? The last time the Brady and Patriots lost to Phillips was Week 4 in 2005, when the Chargers came to Gillette and won, 41-17.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Funny you should say that because McVay said we might as well not show up in his press conference leading to the Saints game. When I mentioned the difference in coaches, it is about experience. And the fact that Payton is a better playoff coach than Andy Reid, his record certainly proves that

So you agree.

Wait maybe you don't agree? But if that's the case, it would make your other points null and void.

So you must be agreeing

 

[Battlelyon]

I love that article from six years ago, old man Wade has been to a few more Super Bowls since than. He beat Belichick on the way to one of those

 

[The Oldtimer]

34-17 New England

If the Pats can hold the Rams to 17 points, then they will deserve to win.