The Official SportsHoopla Preseason Top 25 Rankings

[Backroads]

I think you did a heckuva job putting this together

Yep...but in the end. it is as accurate as any other poll. I like that he combined them all that was cool

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

Since the original poster won't use the standard tallying method used by all major organizations (AP Poll, Coaches Poll, Harris Poll, etc.) and instead insists on his own arbitrary method, I've gone ahead and tallied all the votes from the voting thread using the standard tallying method.

So, the actual/fixed/corrected official results:

# ----- SCHOOL (1ST-PLACE VOTES) --- POINTS
1 ----- Florida State (16) --- 448
2 ----- Oklahoma (1) --- 395
3 ----- Oregon --- 373
4 ----- Alabama --- 369
5 ----- Auburn (1) --- 365
6 ----- Ohio State --- 344
7 ----- UCLA --- 322
8 ----- Michigan State --- 289
9 ----- South Carolina --- 280
10 ----- Baylor --- 251
11 ----- Stanford --- 247
12 ----- LSU --- 232
13 ----- Wisconsin --- 209
14 ----- Clemson --- 193
15 ----- Georgia --- 154
16 ----- Notre Dame --- 142
17 ----- Southern California --- 137
18 ----- Arizona State --- 125
19 ----- Mississippi --- 96
20 ----- Nebraska --- 94
21 ----- Oklahoma State --- 82
22 ----- Iowa --- 81
23 (tie) Washington --- 60
23 (tie) Texas --- 60
25 ----- Duke --- 53

Others receiving votes:

26 ----- Kansas State --- 49
27 ----- Mississippi State --- 45
28 ----- Missouri --- 43
29 ----- Brigham Young --- 42
30 ----- North Carolina --- 38
31 ----- Louisville --- 33
32 ----- Texas A&M --- 31
33 (tie) Houston --- 24
33 (tie) Florida --- 24
33 (tie) UCF --- 24
36 ----- Michigan --- 22
37 ----- Marshall --- 18
38 ----- Texas Tech --- 12
39 ----- Oregon State --- 10
40 ----- TCU --- 9
41 ----- Virginia Tech --- 7
42 ----- Nevada --- 6
43 ----- Cincinnati --- 5
44 ----- Miami (Fla.) --- 4
45 ----- Boise State --- 3
46 (tie) Bowling Green --- 1
46 (tie) Arizona --- 1

(The total number of points is 5852, 2 more points than the 5850 points usually expected of 18 voters, because in post #15 of the voting, a voter put 3 different teams into a 25th-place tie.)

thanks sir

really cool seeing both methods at work

so now we have two versions!

 

[nolehusker]

While I like the idea of using an average, it doesn't lend itself well in this application. The reason being is that all teams aren't ranked. If all teams were ranked, then averaging would be ok (it would also be the same as total points).

It was an interesting take on how to do the tally the polls. Honestly, I like the system better.

 

[nolehusker]

And yes, it is actually less credible, even with many polls to compile. The type of problem Smart already showed still holds even when there are many voters, as the following example demonstrates.

Consider 20 voters, in which a team gets ranked

18, 20, 20, 20, 21,
22, 23, 23, 23, 24,
24, 24, 25, UR, UR,
UR, UR, UR, UR, UR

In the point summation system that all the major organizations use, this gets transformed into:

8, 6, 6, 6, 5,
4, 3, 3, 3, 2,
2, 2, 1, 0, 0,
0, 0, 0, 0, 0

and such a team will still end up in the 20-25 range of the compiled poll, since the unranked votes are all worth 0 points, which is only a few places worse than the approximate 3.92 points that the voters that rank the team give it, which is consistent with the voters that have the team unranked probably having the team in the 25-30 range.

But in the arbitrary system that you're using, this gets transformed into:

18, 20, 20, 20, 21,
22, 23, 23, 23, 24,
24, 24, 25, 47, 47,
47, 47, 47, 47, 47

The unranked votes are now WAY worse than the ranked votes, since there is a huge gap between 47 and 22.08, and the team will likely be pulled out of the Top 25 entirely.

Just to clarify, your team that is UR in all polls wouldn't even get an average score. The only way to even get an average score using the OP's system is that you have to be ranked once in someone's poll.

Your other points still stand though.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[BusSport]

SportsHoopla's Preseason Poll compared to the AP Preseason Poll:

# ----- SCHOOL (1ST-PLACE VOTES) --- DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPORTSHOOPLA AND AP
1 ----- Florida State (16) --- 0
2 ----- Oklahoma (1) --- +2
3 ----- Oregon --- 0
4 ----- Alabama --- -2
5 ----- Auburn (1) --- +1
6 ----- Ohio State --- -1
7 ----- UCLA --- 0
8 ----- Michigan State --- 0
9 ----- South Carolina --- 0
10 ----- Baylor --- 0
11 ----- Stanford --- 0
12 ----- LSU --- +1
13 ----- Wisconsin --- +1
14 ----- Clemson --- +2
15 ----- Georgia --- -3
16 ----- Notre Dame --- +1
17 ----- Southern California --- -2
18 ----- Arizona State --- +1
19 ----- Mississippi --- -1
20 ----- Nebraska --- +2
21 ----- Oklahoma State --- UR
22 ----- Iowa --- UR
23 (tie) Washington --- +2
23 (tie) Texas --- UR
25 ----- Duke --- UR

20 Kansas State, 21 Texas A&M, 23 North Carolina, and 24 Missouri were ranked in the AP Poll but not in the SportsHoopla Poll.

 

[4down20]

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I really don't see FSU repeating. They have a much tougher schedule this year.