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This is BS and you know it...interesting that you preface it with not being able to change who we are as if rushing for the 2nd most TD in the NFL has anything at all to do with being Who you are. It's really sad that you relate him or anyone to this. Imagine his wife asking him to feed the baby and him responding with...."But I'm the 2nd leading TD scorer in the NFL in the last two years!" :pound:

I have no clue what you are trying to say and truthfully it doesn't matter. That was just one of the ABKC reasons for not signing him. He can't get better, can't use his legs. How a baby got into this conversation mystifies me.
 

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Like I said, Brady is nothing more than a facillitator.

BS, Kirk has nothing close to Brady's ability to figure out what's being done to him then going to an alternate SUCCESSFUL play. Nothing close!!
 

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I have no clue what you are trying to say and truthfully it doesn't matter. That was just one of the ABKC reasons for not signing him. He can't get better, can't use his legs. How a baby got into this conversation mystifies me.

I know and it's really too bad!!
 

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Don't want to and will not get into how badly Bob was handled on the premise that it worked for others so.........

Kirk succeeding?? I must have missed that somewhere. Success in the NFL is winning more games than you've loss AND winning playoff and SB games. Hey, I have an idea, let's switch the conversation to, "but it's a team game Sty." :D

Be honest, what he's actually done is steady the ship of state and that's impressive in the manner in which he's done that. Bottom lining this, can this team win a SB with Kirk, absolutely!!! But, he will be the facilitator and not the impetus in such a win like many others who have won SB on the energy of the team that they were on.

Now you told me this was about Bruce and Dan. What the hell happened? Ohhhh you were fibbing. :pound:Sty you told me you played football. What level? Anyone that played anything above Pee Wee knows football is the ultimate team game.

LOL @ how Bob was treated .... didn't you proclarim Watson the next Warren Moon and a future HOFer after three games? Just saying ..... was he thrown into the fire?
 

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Tell me again about Cousin's running and how it relates to his baby and wife. I am almost ready for bed and it is a great bedtime story. :D
 

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BS, Kirk has nothing close to Brady's ability to figure out what's being done to him then going to an alternate SUCCESSFUL play. Nothing close!!

That doesn't mean he is anything more than a facillitator. Your words said there are varying degrees. Going by your logic, if Brady can win 16 games, Cassell can win 11, then KC is about one or two games worse than Brady because KC is at least three games better than Cassell.
 

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Now you told me this was about Bruce and Dan. What the hell happened? Ohhhh you were fibbing. :pound:Sty you told me you played football. What level? Anyone that played anything above Pee Wee knows football is the ultimate team game.

LOL @ how Bob was treated .... didn't you proclarim Watson the next Warren Moon and a future HOFer after three games? Just saying ..... was he thrown into the fire?


It is about Bruce and Dan, you changed that with all the nonsense about unrelated extrinsic things in your first response.

I played 3 (football, baseball and basketball) sports in high school, football, baseball and ran track in college, got hood drafted played football in the military (tackle has since been banned) came out finished first leg of school and got a chance to play some minor league baseball as a favor to a favor from a friend. From then on it was education, education, education, via G.I. Bill.

Sure did, I said it then and say it now, the way that college football is being played there's going to be a much higher failure rate if teams aren't willing to take the time to transition them into the NFL game. (I believe that you agreed to this) Take a moment and look at Watson, who does he remind YOU of from an NFL perspective?
Kid has WM written all over him. Never said a word about him being a HOF'er. as usual you make shit up then respond to it. No thanks!
 

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That doesn't mean he is anything more than a facillitator. Your words said there are varying degrees. Going by your logic, if Brady can win 16 games, Cassell can win 11, then KC is about one or two games worse than Brady because KC is at least three games better than Cassell.

This is your opinion? that Casell is better than Kirk in THIS OFFENSE? I guess you're entitled to it, but don't expect me to argue against YOUR perspective!!
 

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You guys are too Kirk sensitive. Not once in either thread did I disparage Kirk Cousins, but you guys write as if I did. Maybe it's because nobody wants to entertain the idea that what @Sharkinva has been saying to this point hurts your feelings when it comes to Cousins.

You HAVE to ask anyone who is a DC fan, why they were NOT impressed with the performance of C. Wentz ( you are allowed to do that you know) last night because if you were and can't imagine Dan Snyder wanting a Wentz type because we have Kirk, then you truly are Kirk-blind.

Wentz is clearly better than Cousins in only his 2nd year. That much is evident. KC is really good and may even get better in my opinion. What he won't do is take our team to a Super bowl under Gruden.
 

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This is your opinion? that Casell is better than Kirk in THIS OFFENSE? I guess you're entitled to it, but don't expect me to argue against YOUR perspective!!


I will simply point out that as little as eight weeks ago, some thought Pryor, Doctson and Perine would be BETTER in this offense than Jackson, Garcon and for muck sake Matt Jones.


And am I the only one still wondering, what were we thinking not resigning anothe Mike Shanahan guy in Alfred Morris?? :trash:
 

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Wentz is clearly better than Cousins in only his 2nd year. That much is evident. KC is really good and may even get better in my opinion. What he won't do is take our team to a Super bowl under Gruden.


Please see post #192 for explanation of why Player B is not automatically better than player A in Offense or system X.

Carry on.
 

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This is your opinion? that Casell is better than Kirk in THIS OFFENSE? I guess you're entitled to it, but don't expect me to argue against YOUR perspective!!

Ooops that should have included the word "not" preceding the word "better"

that Casell is not equal to or better than Kirk in THIS OFFENSE?

Sorry about that, but I do review what I've written because of this very thing.
 

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Ooops that should have included the word "not" preceding the word "better"

that Casell is not equal to or better than Kirk in THIS OFFENSE?

Sorry about that, but I do review what I've written because of this very thing.


Wait.. are we talking Matt Casell, or fucking White Castle the burger joint?? Because if any one is of the opinion that we would be as good or better with Casell over Cousins...


Please, call true green, have your soil sample checked, move your weed plants to a different location. Because what ever you are smoking is obviously being grown in toxic waste and it is damaging your brain cells.
 

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This is your opinion? that Casell is better than Kirk in THIS OFFENSE? I guess you're entitled to it, but don't expect me to argue against YOUR perspective!!

Not even close to what I said and you know it.

Brady won 16 games for NE in 2007.
Cassell won 11 for NE in 2008.

KC in that same situation wins at least 14 because he is definitely three games better than Cassell.
 

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Wait.. are we talking Matt Casell, or fucking White Castle the burger joint?? Because if any one is of the opinion that we would be as good or better with Casell over Cousins...


Please, call true green, have your soil sample checked, move your weed plants to a different location. Because what ever you are smoking is obviously being grown in toxic waste and it is damaging your brain cells.

You guys are wayyyyy the fuck over estimating what Kirk is in this Offense. Put in any of the aforementioned "impetus" players and then notice the difference. You'll all soon forget about ole' Kirk. Matt Casell in this offense would be competent as would a number of players. One, that I've mentioned before, would be a better fit in this offense than Kirk. Casell producing equal or better numbers than Kirk....who knows? The other guy...YUP!!

This is the kind of shit that happens to starving people, when you give them actual shit to eat. It will be the best shit that they have ever eaten. Now I'm not saying that Kirk is shit (that's for the nit pickers to do) but at the risk of saying this, competence is something that this fan base has been starving for...for a very long time. Shit sammich anyone??:D
 

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Wait.. are we talking Matt Casell, or fucking White Castle the burger joint?? Because if any one is of the opinion that we would be as good or better with Casell over Cousins...


Please, call true green, have your soil sample checked, move your weed plants to a different location. Because what ever you are smoking is obviously being grown in toxic waste and it is damaging your brain cells.

Sty was trying to be funny I think.
 

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Not even close to what I said and you know it.

Brady won 16 games for NE in 2007.
Cassell won 11 for NE in 2008.

KC in that same situation wins at least 14 because he is definitely three games better than Cassell.

That's your opinion, you're entitled to it, you guys give no credit to Gruden and how well designed this offensive system is. Kirk might be three games better than Casell, but that would only be the case cold coming in. Just as Kirk has learned to limit his mistakes so could Casell.
 

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You guys are wayyyyy the fuck over estimating what Kirk is in this Offense. Put in any of the aforementioned "impetus" players and then notice the difference. You'll all soon forget about ole' Kirk. Matt Casell in this offense would be competent as would a number of players. One, that I've mentioned before, would be a better fit in this offense than Kirk. Casell producing equal or better numbers than Kirk....who knows? The other guy...YUP!!

This is the kind of shit that happens to starving people, when you give them actual shit to eat. It will be the best shit that they have ever eaten. Now I'm not saying that Kirk is shit (that's for the nit pickers to do) but at the risk of saying this, competence is something that this fan base has been starving for...for a very long time. Shit sammich anyone??:D


We are talking about the same MAtt Cassell right?? 35 year old, 58.9% completion ratio been through seven teams Matt Cassell?? This is the guy you would tab to not only equal, but be better than Cousins??

And Im the starving man eating a shit sandwich??
 
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