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LogicMan

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Simmons owns this award. Mitchell and Tatum can be argued 2 and 3. I see some articles that place Theis in top 10, not sure how that can be argued at 5 ppg
 

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BTW it should be noted tatum has played the 1, 2, 3 and 4 at times this year. I like his trajectory ahead.
 

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BTW it should be noted tatum has played the 1, 2, 3 and 4 at times this year. I like his trajectory ahead.

For sure he's a prime talent. Still surprised that he gets that much more love than Kuzma though...Tatum has been the more efficient shooter.

76 G, 13.9 ppg, 5.1 reb, 1.6 ast, 47.8/43.4/82.6%
74 G, 16.0 ppg, 6.3 reb, 1.9 ast, 45.1/36.5/71.4%
 

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For sure he's a prime talent. Still surprised that he gets that much more love than Kuzma though...Tatum has been the more efficient shooter.

76 G, 13.9 ppg, 5.1 reb, 1.6 ast, 47.8/43.4/82.6%
74 G, 16.0 ppg, 6.3 reb, 1.9 ast, 45.1/36.5/71.4%

He's playing for a top team and a major contributor for that team while Kuzma is playing for a lottery team.
 

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He's playing for a top team and a major contributor for that team while Kuzma is playing for a lottery team.

Exactly. Was going to post the same thing. Glad I read your post before I responded. If the Lakers were in the playoff hunt, Kuz would be getting as much or more love than Tatum. Might even be higher in the RoY race. But they're not, so he doesn't and isn't.
 

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If we look at offensive numbers their is a good argument to place Kuzma with the top three. But what I suspect the pundits do is look at defensive numbers as well. In fact defensively Simmons and Tatum really stand out
 

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If we look at offensive numbers their is a good argument to place Kuzma with the top three. But what I suspect the pundits do is look at defensive numbers as well. In fact defensively Simmons and Tatum really stand out

If pundits looked much at defensive numbers, IT and Harden would never be in the MVP race.

Tatum does have that advantage, although head to head didn't show it too much.
 
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When it’s all said and done Josh Jackson will be the best all-around rookie from the 2017 Draft class. Bookmark it.
 

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When it’s all said and done Josh Jackson will be the best all-around rookie from the 2017 Draft class. Bookmark it.
I can tell there is no bias in this proclamation.
 

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When it’s all said and done Josh Jackson will be the best all-around rookie from the 2017 Draft class. Bookmark it.

That is definitely possible, but you may be thinking with your heart here.
 

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Dude looks like a completely different player the 2nd half of the Season.

They also aren't doing jack shit as a team and are basically just rolling the ball out and letting him number hunt. They have no coach, no system, just full tank. Kinda hard to evaluate just how much is real in those circumstances. At the very least, he's not a bust so there's that.
 

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It’s too bad Simmons can’t put up numbers without Embiid...
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I’m still upset about your “Ben Simmons is Robin” comment. If Joel Embiid is the Sixers’ Batman, then Ben is at least on the same level as Aquaman or The Flash. A superhero in his own right but really dangerous when you put the right group of people around him.
 

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I’m still upset about your “Ben Simmons is Robin” comment. If Joel Embiid is the Sixers’ Batman, then Ben is at least on the same level as Aquaman or The Flash. A superhero in his own right but really dangerous when you put the right group of people around him.

If Embiid is Batman, Simmons is Azrael.

Azrael (comics) - Wikipedia

Powers and abilities[edit]
As Azrael, Jean-Paul has enhanced physical abilities. He has been shown to fight at heightened levels even when fatigued, a fact exemplified when Azrael was able to defeat Bane, despite suffering from both extreme exhaustion and Venom withdrawal.[20] He has also been shown to be able to resist an even more potent version of the Venom drug, having been able to break its vast addiction in only one night. Azrael is also a superior fighter; although he lacks technique and style in his fighting moves, he makes up for it with his inhuman speed, reflexes, and agility. Azrael has been able to match Deathstroke in a sword duel and has even defeated Batman in hand-to-hand combat.[21] This is not only due to his martial arts skills, but also due to his inhuman physical abilities.

Underline=no jump shot!

Oh, c'mon, at least one of you has to be a comic books nerd....
 
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