The Mets are going to win the World Series

[mr.hockey4242]

The Mets are just lucky they managed to avoid John Lackey this postseason.

Collin McHugh too that Tommy Milone ish era was scary.

 

[Rock Strongo]

But while the unavoidable mention of the 2004 Red Sox is flattering to that team in one sense, at times, the casual reference to their accomplishment fails to capture the uniqueness of what they did. And so, it is worth revisiting the context for that Sox team’s accomplishments.

■ In postseason history, teams that have gone up 3-0 in best-of-seven series have won the series 33 of 34 times (97 percent).

■ Teams that took a 3-0 lead have swept 28 of 34 series (82.3 percent).

■ Only two teams besides the 2004 Red Sox have won as many as two games after falling behind, 3-0 (the 1998 Braves, who fell to the Padres in six games in the NLCS, and the 1999 Mets, who pushed the Braves to six games). In other words, 91 percent of series where a team took a 3-0 lead ended in either four or five games.

■ Since the 2004 ALCS, there have been eight instances in a best-of-seven series in which a team assumed a 3-0 lead. In all eight instances (2004 Red Sox vs. Cardinals, 2005 White Sox vs. Astros, 2006 Tigers vs. A’s, 2007 Rockies vs. Diamondbacks, 2007 Red Sox vs. Rockies, 2012 Tigers vs. Yankees, 2012 Giants vs. Tigers, 2014 Royals vs. Orioles), the series ended in a sweep.

In short, as much as teams like the 2015 Cubs should look to the 2004 Red Sox to find a glimmer of optimism as they stare down the barrel of elimination, with the benefit of hindsight, it’s startling to realize that no other baseball team has come close to that unforgettable return from a wobbly position on the edge of a precipice.

Yes, it’s been done – but it hasn’t been remotely replicable.

 

[Xulu Bak]

Am I the only person that thinks this year's Royals team is notably better than last year's team?

I'd say you'd have to be pretty clueless to NOT think this team is better than last year's team...

Hosmer, Cain, and Moose are improved. Salvy is about the same. Escobar took a step back during the regular season, but has stepped his game back up in the postseason. Gordon isn't back to where he was yet.

Zobrist is a huge offensive upgrade over Infante. Morales is a significant upgrade over Butler. Rios vs Aoki is kinda meh. Starting playoff rotation is probably a little better. Herrera-Madsen-Davis vs Herrera-Davis-Holland is slight downgrade (Madsen vs Holland), but the bullpen depth is ridiculous. Bench is pretty similar, but Zobrist's versatility gives them more flexibility in usage.

 

[SJ76]

Not so fast

KC is destroying the Blue Jays and they were in it last year. Rarely does a team come out of nowhere to win the WS

 

[chappee11]

Collin McHugh too that Tommy Milone ish era was scary.

Ok, McHugh is debatable. I still came up with 10 guys better than Lackey on postseason rosters without trying(and McHugh wasn't even on that list). It was something like: Kershaw, Greinke, Price, DeGrom, Harvey, Syndergaard, Arrieta, Lester, Hamels, Kuechel, Cole. Do you have Lackey ahead of any of those guys?

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Ok, McHugh is debatable. I still came up with 10 guys better than Lackey on postseason rosters without trying(and McHugh wasn't even on that list). It was something like: Kershaw, Greinke, Price, DeGrom, Harvey, Syndergaard, Arrieta, Lester, Hamels, Kuechel, Cole. Do you have Lackey ahead of any of those guys?

Yes. He's had a better season than many of those guys. Has better post season numbers and more experience.

How is price a better option? Seriously?

Lackey beat Lester for gods sake although that's hindsight now.

Again, you went to bat for McHugh as a game 1 starter but bash lackey.

Lackey was hands down the best option on his team. Mchugh wasn't even close.

Lackey was better than mchugh, more expiereice and pod playoff numbers.

It's the most contradictory thing I've ever seen.

 

[chappee11]

Yes. He's had a better season than many of those guys. Has better post season numbers and more experience.

How is price a better option? Seriously?

Lackey beat Lester for gods sake although that's hindsight now.

Again, you went to bat for McHugh as a game 1 starter but bash lackey.

Lackey was hands down the best option on his team. Mchugh wasn't even close.

Lackey was better than mchugh, more expiereice and pod playoff numbers.

It's the most contradictory thing I've ever seen.

So, you are taking Lackey over Price? I don't need to tell you that Price is consistently one of the best in the game. I'm going with him every time. Lester has been better than Lackey every year he's been in the league except this one. McHugh wasn't the real #1 for Houston, Keuchel was, but they had to use him at the end of the regular season to clinch a playoff spot. Same with Hamels in Texas. Both are the #1 starters for their respective teams when the managers have a choice. I already said McHugh is debatable. By the way, I forgot Cueto.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

So, you are taking Lackey over Price? I don't need to tell you that Price is consistently one of the best in the game. I'm going with him every time. Lester has been better than Lackey every year he's been in the league except this one. McHugh wasn't the real #1 for Houston, Keuchel was, but they had to use him at the end of the regular season to clinch a playoff spot. Same with Hamels in Texas. Both are the #1 starters for their respective teams when the managers have a choice. I already said McHugh is debatable. By the way, I forgot Cueto.

Dude. We're talking starting game 1 of a series here. Lackey has been better than Price and it isn't even close. We are not talking a 34 game regular season schedule here.

Guess what? Once again Lackey was the cards only option. Yet you say "mchugh wasn't meant to go" also he wasn't their #2 ether. Kazmir, fiers and McCullers all better.

It's completely illogical thinking.

Cueto has like 6 era in his playoff career and laughed as he came off the mound Monday. Yeah, I'd love to have that asshole over a guy like John Lackey who is a bulldog.

 

[Rock Strongo]

@Huwaryu_in_exile has been working out.

 

[Erie Warrior]

Mets pitching is pretty hard to beat right now. I like them in 6.

 

[chappee11]

Dude. We're talking starting game 1 of a series here. Lackey has been better than Price and it isn't even close. We are not talking a 34 game regular season schedule here.

Guess what? Once again Lackey was the cards only option. Yet you say "mchugh wasn't meant to go" also he wasn't their #2 ether. Kazmir, fiers and McCullers all better.

It's completely illogical thinking.

Cueto has like 6 era in his playoff career and laughed as he came off the mound Monday. Yeah, I'd love to have that asshole over a guy like John Lackey who is a bulldog.

Wow. So you really WOULD take Lackey over Price, huh? I have one thing to say to you:

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Wow. So you really WOULD take Lackey over Price, huh? I have one thing to say to you:

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In a playoff start?

Fuck yes. Stats don't lie.

 

[navamind]

Playoff stats (that are scattered over different postseasons) have no predictive value whatsoever. Please stop with this.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Playoff stats (that are scattered over different postseasons) have no predictive value whatsoever. Please stop with this.

That's like, your opinion man.

 

[chappee11]

Playoff stats (that are scattered over different postseasons) have no predictive value whatsoever. Please stop with this.

Don't bother. I've tried with these guys, but you can't fix stupid.

 

[da55bums]

Hoping this dream comes true. It's been too long for the Mets.

Mets pitching looking like the Braves back when they had Glavine, Smoltz and Maddox

thank you, Glavine and Maddox were under .500 in the post season and the reason they couldn't get more than 1 ring together. More proof after Verlander, Scherzer and Price's failer that the best Starting Pitchers aren't all that its cracked up to be.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Don't bother. I've tried with these guys, but you can't fix stupid.

You really can't.

Colin McHugh is such a goddamn stud though holy shit. Ace material.

 

[molsaniceman]

thank you, Glavine and Maddox were under .500 in the post season and the reason they couldn't get more than 1 ring together. More proof after Verlander, Scherzer and Price's failer that the best Starting Pitchers aren't all that its cracked up to be.

Glavine had a 3.30 era and maddux 3.27 a lot of those games they lost due to no offense The 1 WS they won glavine shut out the indians
its nice to have great starters but got to have great D and some timely hitting to go with it
Should be a great series

 

[chappee11]

You really can't.

Colin McHugh is such a goddamn stud though holy shit. Ace material.

I've said 3 or 4 times now that McHugh might not be better than Lackey(and that Kuechel is really the #1 starter for HOU). But you know this by now. You are the one saying that you would take Lackey over David Price. THAT was the single dumbest comment of the entire conversation.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

I've said 3 or 4 times now that McHugh might not be better than Lackey(and that Kuechel is really the #1 starter for HOU). But you know this by now. You are the one saying that you would take Lackey over David Price. THAT was the single dumbest comment of the entire conversation.

Again, since you can't GRASP it.

You bitched about Lackey going game 1 but defending Mchugh. When lackey has the experience and shits on him stats wise and is his teams best pitcher. McHugh was the Stros 5th best pitcher. It's just fucking idiotic.

How many series has Price started off with a win? Just curious.

God damn some people.