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[27mtrcougar]

PFF, PFF, PFF, alert the NFl bible, you are unbelievable Coug!

Wow, that's the pathetic comeback you have? Let's see I will agree Davis at the moment is a backup QB, I don't think he played a very good game Sunday, he was sacked SEVEN times, so I guess your PFF numbers aren't very reliable, yet again! Should he have started Sunday, no, but was forced to because Manziel is an idiot. Do you use any excuses like his oline sucks, WR suck, OC (Shurmer)sucks, no those only apply to Bradford!

Yes I watched the game, Bradford again had a few nice throws, which I've been saying for lik ethers weeks now, was most of it dinking and dunking, yes! Did Sammie help them win, yes, did they win all because of Sammie, no! Again defense, ya that one that you say is terrible, makes a pick 6 and that is the difference in The game, when NY was in position for a TD, or at least a short FG

Sammie went up against the LAST, WORST, defense in the league, and yet it took the defense to be the difference in the game!


But that's a very weak comparison Coug, a guy that has taken first string snaps briefly all year, against, Pitt while not the D they
use to be, is still decent and they played a very good game.
Ya but hang your hat on that "amazing" performance against the worst team in the league, sorry he dinked and dunked for the most part as usual and got his usual yardage via the YAC

Wow. well I'm glad you agree Davis is a back up lol. thats what I've been saying all along!! guess what he's not going to get better. so let me get this straight Sam has the best grade of any QB and Davis has the worst grade this weekend but you're the one that seems to have all the excuses of why that happen. Maybe Sam is a better QB?

 

[Smed55]

Wow. well I'm glad you agree Davis is a back up lol. thats what I've been saying all along!! guess what he's not going to get better. so let me get this straight Sam has the best grade of any QB and Davis has the worst grade this weekend but you're the one that seems to have all the excuses of why that happen. Maybe Sam is a better QB?

Sorry pal, I didn't use the excuses you do, I said Pitt played well, Davis didn't play well, and that he hasn't played much this year, I said Sammie went up against the worst defense in the league, all that is true. Now if I wanted to play the Coug card, I would have said, Davis's WRs suck, his oline sucks, Shurmar sucks, all true statements, but I watched the game, Davis made quite a few bad passes, his interception at the goal line was horrendous, he did not play well at all, it happens, it was one game!
You on the other hand don't think Sammie has played a bad game yet and that's in his whole flipping career! Every week it's his oline, WR, OC fault, it's never Sammies fault in your eyes, and everyone in here knows it and has to hear about it, why do you think you are the common denominator in all this Sammy talk?

 

[27mtrcougar]

Sorry pal, I didn't use the excuses you do, I said Pitt played well, Davis didn't play well, and that he hasn't played much this year, I said Sammie went up against the worst defense in the league, all that is true. Now if I wanted to play the Coug card, I would have said, Davis's WRs suck, his oline sucks, Shurmar sucks, all true statements, but I watched the game, Davis made quite a few bad passes, his interception at the goal line was horrendous, he did not play well at all, it happens, it was one game!
You on the other hand don't think Sammie has played a bad game yet and that's in his whole flipping career! Every week it's his oline, WR, OC fault, it's never Sammies fault in your eyes, and everyone in here knows it and has to hear about it, why do you think you are the common denominator in all this Sammy talk?

Actually when you watch Davis play you can tell he sucks and it's not Joe Thomas and a very good Oline. It's Him!

 

[Smed55]

Actually when you watch Davis play you can tell he sucks and it's not Joe Thomas and a very good Oline. It's Him!

Yep, your right Coug, while Davis's body of work is smaller, their career averages in everything are very similar.

So , I guess when you watch Bradford play, you can tell he sucks, it's not his oline, it's not his WR, it's not his OC,it's not his fault he has never played on a winning team, it's not his fault he has never led his teams anywhere, it's bad luck, he's the only good player on any team he has ever played for! Oh wait, IT'S HIM!
Oh wait he's a Heisman winner, he's amazing and dreamy,

Just showing you how stupid your comments look! Bradford doesn't suck, he's an average QB, always has been, could he get better, maybe, doubt it, he is what he is! Average!

 

[27mtrcougar]

Yep, your right Coug, while Davis's body of work is smaller, their career averages in everything are very similar.

So , I guess when you watch Bradford play, you can tell he sucks, it's not his oline, it's not his WR, it's not his OC,it's not his fault he has never played on a winning team, it's not his fault he has never led his teams anywhere, it's bad luck, he's the only good player on any team he has ever played for! Oh wait, IT'S HIM!
Oh wait he's a Heisman winner, he's amazing and dreamy,

Just showing you how stupid your comments look! Bradford doesn't suck, he's an average QB, always has been, could he get better, maybe, doubt it, he is what he is! Average!

Sam is an Above average starter in the NFL. And that's exactly how PFF grades him. And it will be proven when some team give him big bucks to be the starting quarterback for their team! Just because he hasn't been on A winning team means nothing.. he has probably been on some of the worst teams in NFL history. That's like saying Dan Marino sucked because he didn't win a Super Bowl. And no I'm not comparing the two.

 

[shopson67]

Man, you're hanging onto that PFF grade for dear life...

 

[27mtrcougar]

Man, you're hanging onto that PFF grade for dear life...

No I've actually been saying Sam is an above average starter for the last few years defending him. It's just nice to have professionals in the NFL circle saying the same thing. He's probably had some of the worst luck with injuries and being on bad teams then a lot of players have been through.

 

[shopson67]

No I've actually been saying Sam is an above average starter for the last few years defending him. It's just nice to have professionals in the NFL circle saying the same thing. He's probably had some of the worst luck with injuries and being on bad teams then a lot of players have been through.

You're just like the climate change deniers; holding onto that 0.01% of scientists that go against the scientific consensus.

 

[27mtrcougar]

You're just like the climate change deniers; holding onto that 0.01% of scientists that go against the scientific consensus.

No the climate is Fuk!!!!! Lol

 

[Smed55]

Man, you're hanging onto that PFF grade for dear life...

Well of course he is, Shop! he just discovered it, its still new and exciting to him, he finally found ONE site that shows Bradford in a good light!

 

[Smed55]

No I've actually been saying Sam is an above average starter for the last few years defending him. It's just nice to have professionals in the NFL circle saying the same thing. He's probably had some of the worst luck with injuries and being on bad teams then a lot of players have been through.

And the excuses flow once more!!!!!!!! You've been saying he is a franchise QB, a QB EVERY team in the NFL wants, you've said he is a great QB

Sorry but if you go to the "OFFICIAL" SITE OF THE NFL, it has him at the 25th best QB in the NFL, that's below average, although I will concede, he is average!

 

[Smed55]

Coug is in such denial, and he is so in love its creepy!

He has said that Eagle fans are behind Bradford, when in actuality there is one fan on the Eagle site that is like Coug, just not as bad, a couple are willing to give him another shot, and the majority have said they need to move on from him!
Coug has even posted over there throwing his love out there, good luck with that Eagle fans! its funny the Eagle board is very similar to the Ram board when it comes to Sammy, gee imagine that!
But Im sure Coug will put a positive spin on it!

 

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[Smed55]

Been that way for two years now, Coug just wont let it go!

 

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[Retroram52]

Actually when you watch Davis play you can tell he sucks and it's not Joe Thomas and a very good Oline. It's Him!

I think Smed has nailed you to the wall with this admission. If you don't see how blinded you are with man-love for Sammie, you'll never see much of anything remotely close to the truth about your boy, EVER!

 

[27mtrcougar]

Coug is in such denial, and he is so in love its creepy!

He has said that Eagle fans are behind Bradford, when in actuality there is one fan on the Eagle site that is like Coug, just not as bad, a couple are willing to give him another shot, and the majority have said they need to move on from him!
Coug has even posted over there throwing his love out there, good luck with that Eagle fans! its funny the Eagle board is very similar to the Ram board when it comes to Sammy, gee imagine that!
But Im sure Coug will put a positive spin on it!

Well of course he is, Shop! he just discovered it, its still new and exciting to him, he finally found ONE site that shows Bradford in a good light!

Sam Bradford shows he's worth bringing back
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GALLERY: Eagles 35, Giants 30






EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. - For the first time in three years, Sam Bradford had walked off the field after his final game of an NFL season, and he kept walking - through a tunnel to the visitors' locker room at MetLife Stadium, from the locker room to a news conference area, from behind that podium back to his locker. The room had quieted some by then, his teammates dressing quickly to board the Eagles' team bus and begin their offseasons, and Bradford paused before leaving to consider a question that, for all the tumult of these last four months, he never allowed to define him or his career.

He had seen his last two seasons with the St. Louis Rams wiped out when he tore his left anterior cruciate ligament in November 2013, then tore it again 10 months later. He had withstood his ugly weeks in September and October, when his timing was off and his throws were uncertain from all that time away. He had returned to play after sitting out two games with a concussion and a shoulder injury. And here, in sum, was what he had done: He had thrown for 3,725 yards and 19 touchdowns, had set the Eagles' single-season record for completion percentage (65.0), and had the other men in the locker room pleading publicly to owner Jeffrey Lurie and team vice president Howie Roseman to make sure Bradford didn't get away. He had proved something to them. Had he proved something to himself, too?

"Obviously, I missed those two games," Bradford said Sunday, after the Eagles' 35-30 victory over the Giants. "But I think I showed I can take hits and get back up again. Deep down, I knew I could."

This was the brightest ray of light, maybe the only one, to shine through from this dark and dissatisfying Eagles season. There have been worse Eagles teams than 2015's, than a group that needed a meaningless win here Sunday just to finish 7-9, but from the firing of Chip Kelly to the disintegration of Bill Davis' defense, from the misspent money on DeMarco Murray to the misspent money on Byron Maxwell, there haven't been many seasons that were more disappointing.



Yet from the outset of training camp, one of the primary questions that the Eagles needed to answer was whether Bradford had the ability and the staying power to be the franchise's long-term starting quarterback. He answered that question. He can.

Once Bradford re-acclimated himself to the rigors and speed of a single NFL game and a full NFL season, once the Eagles' bye week gave him a chance to refine his fundamentals, he became a quarterback capable of justifying the blockbuster trade Kelly made, and the big chance Kelly took, to bring him here. His excellent game Sunday - 30 for 38, 320 yards, two touchdowns, a fluky interception on a tipped pass - continued the upward arc his performances had been tracing since early November. Over his final seven starts, Bradford completed 68.2 percent of his passes for 1,959 yards, 10 touchdowns, four interceptions, and a 97.2 passer rating - with a fraying offensive line, with receivers who treated the football as if it were a wet, well-used bar of Irish Spring.

"What you're seeing from Sam in the last part of this year is more of what he is," interim head coach Pat Shurmur said. "You have two season-ending injuries, and these are like big-time car wrecks. It takes a while to come back from that."

More than the mere statistics, though, Bradford won over his teammates through his guts and toughness. Those aren't qualities that come up often in discussions about Bradford, but they should. They should be at the forefront of any conversation about him. For no matter how conditioned football fans may be to players' returning from severe injury, no matter how many people take those grueling rehabilitations and recoveries for granted, it wasn't lost on the other Eagles what Bradford had to go through - twice - just to suit up in Atlanta on Sept. 14 and against the Giants on Sunday.

"He had just about every form of adversity you could as a quarterback, coming into a new situation, new players, new offense, new head coach, new city, hasn't played football in two years," center Jason Kelce said. "It was a bit optimistic to expect him to play the way he's playing now at the beginning of the year."

The irony of Bradford's growth, of course, is that it puts the Eagles in such a difficult position, with such a delicate process to go through to determine his future with the team. He becomes a free agent now, and the Eagles don't have a head coach. So how do Lurie, Roseman, and Tom Donahoe handle this? Do they do everything they can to keep Bradford and make his retention a condition of hiring a coach? Do they let the new hire decide whom his quarterback should be? What will it take to re-sign Bradford to a multiyear contract? Should they franchise-tag him for 2016 and hope for the best?

"If we can retain Sam Bradford, that is the most important position on the field - on offense, defense, special teams, anything," Kelce said. "If we can retain a guy like that, that would be huge for our ball club, regardless of who the head coach is."

From Kelce to Shurmur, from Zach Ertz to Jordan Matthews, that was the consensus in the locker room late Sunday afternoon: Whatever else happens, keep Sam. Keep him here. He had earned that praise, that respect. Sam Bradford had walked off the damn field again, finally, and it's on Lurie and Roseman now to make sure that the best part of a bad season doesn't go to waste.


Well Smed this isn't from PFF but from the Eagles themselves wanting Sam back!! notice what the actual players say?

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[Smed55]

Coug, good for him, Ive agreed with SJ and others that Sammie should stay with Philly, he is probably their best option right now!
He had a decent year, one of his best if not his best, still was nothing special?
As far as the rest of the league, most are set with who they have, most should resign the FA QB that they currently have, most of those QB's had as good if not better years as Sammie!
Sammies best fit is Philly and if he chooses to go elsewhere he's an idiot, but he has already proven he is all about the money!

 

[27mtrcougar]

Coug, good for him, Ive agreed with SJ and others that Sammie should stay with Philly, he is probably their best option right now!
He had a decent year, one of his best if not his best, still was nothing special?
As far as the rest of the league, most are set with who they have, most should resign the FA QB that they currently have, most of those QB's had as good if not better years as Sammie!
Sammies best fit is Philly and if he chooses to go elsewhere he's an idiot, but he has already proven he is all about the money!

Chip is gone so who knows what offense they will run now. It depends on what coach they hire but they will probably consult Sam if they want to keep him. There is a good chance they Franchise him for next year vs letting him leave.

 

[RamsFan88]

In regards to all the Bradford talk...