The Last Movie You Watched (no spoilers)

[Shanemansj13]

Bird Box. 10 stars, awesome.

Meh, it was okay but only bc of the great acting

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Holy Grails re-watchability is its strong suit. You can watch it 100 times and pick up something new every time.

I feel that way with a lot of slapstick style/ goofy comedies like the Naked Guns, Top Secret, etc... I specifically remember rewatching Top Secret a few years ago and found a bunch of small stuff that I never noticed before.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Meh, it was okay but only bc of the great acting

 

[Shanemansj13]

Gossip Girls

Spoiler: SPOILER

It's a tv show, not a movie and it's GHEYYYY

 

[PatsFan2003]

Holy Grails re-watchability is its strong suit. You can watch it 100 times and pick up something new every time.

Yep. Some of the skits just get better as you see them again.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Yep. Some of the skits just get better as you see them again.

Yeah, I really didn't like the ending though.

 

[chf]

no real emotional or character development throughout the film in my opinion

That's all there was in the entire movie. Them changing.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

That's all there was in the entire movie. Them changing.

I disagree completely. All the characters were the same at the end of the movie as they were at the beginning of the movie with two exceptions.

Spoiler

1. Their money situation.
2. Pines character practically inviting death/confrontation (at the end). Not a big jump or even a truly meaningful one in my opinion.

 

[chf]

c'mon man.

They were just regular guys going through their regular life, and then the bank fucked them. They end the movie as on the run bank robbers, one of whom makes the ultimate sacrifice.

Did we watch the same movie?

There was no change EXCEPT the way they live their lives or don't live their lives!!!

What were you expecting? one of them to grow another head and start speaking Swahili?

 

[huskers1217]

found an oldie but a goodie on AMC

 

[huskers1217]

found an oldie but a goodie on AMC

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[Blackshirts BLVD]

c'mon man.

They were just regular guys going through their regular life, and then the bank fucked them. They end the movie as on the run bank robbers, one of whom makes the ultimate sacrifice.

Did we watch the same movie?

There was no change EXCEPT the way they live their lives or don't live their lives!!!

What were you expecting? one of them to grow another head and start speaking Swahili?

Here we go lol... forgive my long post, but you practically asked for it.

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The movie tells us that Pines character was the good ole boy and his brother was the criminal. Throughout the movie, his brother(Foster) always acts like the cliche of a criminal (i.e. being rude, arrogant, overly-spontaneous or impulsive, etc). We see this manifest throughout the movie. Pine is apologizing to everyone, Foster is hitting them, being rude, and even decides to rob a bank by himself (impulsive). Sure he may be doing it all for his brother, but he is by and far handling most circumstances irresponsibly (cliche for the criminal type). Same for Pine always apologizing, being friendly with people, reigning in his brother at times... (cliche for the good ole boy).

It ends with them splitting up looking at each other before hand and understanding that it would likely be the last time they ever saw each other, this is on clear display by their acting/facial expressions, not even in question. Not to mention the foreshadowing of this being done by Pine catching/watching Foster load the magazines for the rifles he takes along on the 'last few heists' even though they were never needed in any of the prior heists.

Pine goes and secures his trust for his kids, brother dies in a shoot out with police/rangers where the biggest surprise of the movie occurred in the rather instant death of Bridges partner, but that was foreshadowed as well through his partners statement about 'hope I make it to retirement'. Then Bridges and Pine have a little moment at the very end where they basically tell each other that they "know" and that they may need to have it out for each other... which we never see happen.

I am sorry, there was no real growth of the characters. The story, while valiant in its own way, was nothing special nor complex. If anything, I am a little insulted that the police/rangers KNOW that one of the robbers got away and apparently for an unknown reason the blood from Pines character is never tested. Seems pretty open and shut to me... the dude was SHOT in the bank/bank parking lot... either way it wasn't while in the car because the locals stopped shooting by the time they got in the car. Plus their would be blood in the truck. The truck did explode, (which also didn't make sense, explosion was way too large for why it exploded, but I'll forgive that for it being a movie) which could make it seem as though the blood evidence would not be usable, but the point is that there appears to be no forensic effort whatsoever. It is a movie... lie to me, don't treat me like I'm stupid.

The movie says take it or leave it, which I am fine with... but there was little to no character development.

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

wtf

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#MillennialMakeover

 

[DragonfromTO]

wtf

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He's still had a better 25 years than Brancato has had

 

[chf]

Here we go lol... forgive my long post, but you practically asked for it.

So the cliche of a good ol' boy is that he apologizes to people a lot? So what you described in your reply WAS character development btw, but I suspect we'll have to agree to disagree on that. But here's a little thought experiment if you want to try it. Let's leave the basic strokes of the two brothers intact (one the risk taker, one the 'good son.' )

How would you have had it end?

How would you have shown 'character development?'

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

So the cliche of a good ol' boy is that he apologizes to people a lot? So what you described in your reply WAS character development btw, but I suspect we'll have to agree to disagree on that. But here's a little thought experiment if you want to try it. Let's leave the basic strokes of the two brothers intact (one the risk taker, one the 'good son.' )

How would you have had it end?

How would you have shown 'character development?'

Apparently we will have to agree to disagree, because that is literally a lack of development. I mean seriously, what developed? What changed (besides their circumstances/conditions... which isn't development, that is basic story progression)?

As for the end, the ending is not the time to show character development. It is too late by this point unless the movie is a mystery/thriller genre, where revealing something at the end serves a larger purpose to the moive as a whole.

Well, for starters... the way the movie read to me, was that it was what it was. It was not meant to demonstrate character development. It was meant to demonstrate a handful of other things in my opinion though...

* Brotherhood/family commitment or strength
* Prototypical heist
* Revenge/ Avenge
* Cat & Mouse through the 'smart' veteran detective.
* The unfortunate nature of being too late / Regret

Now you CAN display character development through these facets, but it isn't a given because it is dependent upon the character not the story. Take Jeff Bridges character for example. He acts a particular way from the very first moment he is on screen.

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then his partner dies

Then at the end he is the EXACT same. Sure his characters purpose might now serve an avenging cause as demonstrated through his final interactions with Pines character, but his character is the EXACT same even through that process.

As for the 'good ole boy' cliche, I was just using the apologizing as an example. Run down the check list. Pine and Foster serve as the prototypical yang/ying bro duo of a heist flick. Again, I don't think there is anything wrong with that and they both do a fair job of it. However, there is no development or change in them nor between them throughout the film. And that's rather sad.

As for how I would have shown development or at least, what I think would have helped because again, I don't feel that this movie was done with that as an intention.

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Nonetheless, I think showing or having a real backstory to go along with Pines "she died" statements would have been better. Had we known how the bank did it, particularly if it was deeply dependent on their situation and eventual outcome. Fosters character talks VERY briefly about how he shot dad and that mom never liked him... these are great avenues to use to show how a character grow or change. The movie allows us to assume that the environment that existed between Foster and the dad/mom could be what drove him to crime (hell, HE SHOT AND KILLED THE DAD), but this is never shown and in my opinion therefore falls flat. Pine is the good one, but we never see him care for his mom, see his devotion, see how the banks greed essentially altered his and her condition which led to this, etc...

As for Bridges character... his character is a monotone, old school veteran ranger stereotype and he actually has the perfect moment for character development as we witness the interactions between him and his partner and the blatant foreshadowing that eventually leads to his very sudden and rather unexpected death. But after that scene, Bridges is the same as we was before, only retired.

I understand time passed, but outside of wanting to avenge his partner, his partner dying appeared to have no real impact on his character.

I hope this better explains my position. Again, I thought it was a good movie for what it was. I thought the acting was good. The visuals were nothing special. The story was nothing special, I would argue that it underwhelmed as a whole. And there was no respectable character development. I use the word respectable there, because simply adding a motive/emotion such as revenge or avenge does not equate for an entire movie lacking in this department.

Again, 6/10. But I am more than willing to read your takes on the movie and see how you viewed it. I am perfectly willing to accept a difference of opinion on this one as opposed to the shit shown a.k.a. Bird Box.

 

[Dusty]

Saving Private Ryan..........again

 

[Blackshirts BLVD]

Saving Private Ryan..........again

GREAT movie.

 

[calsnowskier]

Saving Private Ryan..........again

Greatest war flick ever. In the discussion for greatest movie of all time (Holy Grail, Godfather, ...)

 

[calsnowskier]

The Big Sick

I didn’t realize it was autobiographical. Nice little flick.

7.5/10