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You said he is the track guru HERE, so if he isn't talking track here, ???? So all those people like you who don't give a shit about track ........huh??????

Why the lies guy?
He is the track guru here, that doesn’t mean he has to be full of himself annoyance who has to feel superior by posting a whole bunch of random stats no one asked for.
 

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He is the track guru here, that doesn’t mean he has to be full of himself annoyance who has to feel superior by posting a whole bunch of random stats no one asked for.

So nobody here gives a shit about track but ya have a track guru, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, why the lies. well?

Nobody knows more about track than myself and I'm totally prepared to back that up, ok? Been at this since since 1958, know it all, 100% covered.
 

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So nobody here gives a shit about track but ya have a track guru, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, why the lies. well?

Nobody knows more about track than myself and I'm totally prepared to back that up, ok? Been at this since since 1958, know it all, 100% covered.
Trust me you don’t have to back anything up. Nobody here is into themselves as much as you are.
 

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Combining passing and rushing to get yardage/TD season totals:

First Team All-Pro
66.7%
or better comp%
5000 or better combined passing/rushing yards
40 or more combined passing/rushing TDs
15 or fewer combined INT/fumbles
110 or more passer rating

Again through first nine seasons (have to start at least 14 games for a season to count):

Wilson
First-Team All-Pro....0​
66.7% or better comp%....2​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....2​
110 or more passer rating....2​
Total...7

Rodgers
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....2​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....2​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....3​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...8

Brady
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....1​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....1​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...5

Peyton
First-Team All-Pro....3​
66.7% or better comp%....3​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....3​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...11

Favre
First-Team All-Pro....3​
66.7% or better comp%....0​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....2​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....0​
110 or more passer rating....0​
Total...5

Marino
First-Team All-Pro....3​
66.7% or better comp%....0​
5000 or better combined yards...1​
40 or more combined TDs....2​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....1​
110 or more passer rating....0​
Total...7

Cam
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....1​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....1​
110 or more passer rating....0​
Total...4

Mahomes (4 seasons)
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....0​
5000 or better combined yards...2​
40 or more combined TDs....2​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....2​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...8

Lamar (3 seasons)
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....0​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....1​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...4

Just by combining passing and rushing, Cam goes from the top to the bottom. Peyton moves easily to the top, Wilson drops to simply respectable, and Mahomes is a beast who's going to eat everybody. This probably aligns with most people's assessment of these guys in their first decade of play.

In the end, Wilson has strung together a consistent stretch of above-average seasons with a couple of great ones thrown in. Score him by above-average seasons and he beats everybody. Score him by great seasons and others surpass him.
 

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Combining passing and rushing to get yardage/TD season totals:

First Team All-Pro
66.7%
or better comp%
5000 or better combined passing/rushing yards
40 or more combined passing/rushing TDs
15 or fewer combined INT/fumbles
110 or more passer rating

Again through first nine seasons (have to start at least 14 games for a season to count):

Wilson
First-Team All-Pro....0​
66.7% or better comp%....2​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....2​
110 or more passer rating....2​
Total...7

Rodgers
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....2​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....2​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....3​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...8

Brady
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....1​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....1​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...5

Peyton
First-Team All-Pro....3​
66.7% or better comp%....3​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....3​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...11

Favre
First-Team All-Pro....3​
66.7% or better comp%....0​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....2​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....0​
110 or more passer rating....0​
Total...5

Marino
First-Team All-Pro....3​
66.7% or better comp%....0​
5000 or better combined yards...1​
40 or more combined TDs....2​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....1​
110 or more passer rating....0​
Total...7

Cam
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....1​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....1​
110 or more passer rating....0​
Total...4

Mahomes (4 seasons)
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....0​
5000 or better combined yards...2​
40 or more combined TDs....2​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....2​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...8

Lamar (3 seasons)
First-Team All-Pro....1​
66.7% or better comp%....0​
5000 or better combined yards...0​
40 or more combined TDs....1​
15 or fewer combined INTs/fumbles....1​
110 or more passer rating....1​
Total...4

Just by combining passing and rushing, Cam goes from the top to the bottom. Peyton moves easily to the top, Wilson drops to simply respectable, and Mahomes is a beast who's going to eat everybody. This probably aligns with most people's assessment of these guys in their first decade of play.

In the end, Wilson has strung together a consistent stretch of above-average seasons with a couple of great ones thrown in. Score him by above-average seasons and he beats everybody. Score him by great seasons and others surpass him.

Wow!

Love it when people put in the time, that was great!!!!
 

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That was great BRAVO~~~

Bottom line.....Wilson's first nine seasons the best so far.
Wrong. You need to add SBs and MVPs and making the first team Pro Bowl and remove some other categories. Do you really think throwing for 60% completions is more telling of a QBs play than winning a SB or an MVP? The categories are not reflective of your final conclusion. Also add rushing yards to passing yards and call it total yards. You shouldn't get double the points for 4,000 passing yards and 400 rushing yards than you get for 5,000 passing yards.

Most importantly, these ranking systems in general are dumb and misleading. You don't get any more points for throwing 100 TDs than you do for throwing 30TDs and you get the same number of points for having a 60% comp rate as you do 30 TDs or 4,000 yards. You need to add up all of the stats for 9 years not compartmentalize them in this way. The flaws in using this and then saying for a 9 year period he was the best in such a cocksure way is off base. Maybe he was and maybe he wasn't, but this points system isn't proving anything :2cents:
 

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Dude, you have how many threads out there to leech off of, well? I'll talk about what I want if you don't like it I don't care stay out, now ya got that?

Dude, saw my first Olympics in 1960, THE track guru in cyperspace, I have no equal and it;s all done by memory. Why fight the obvious?
One question. Why capitalize the word "THE"? Does that give it and your dumb arguement credibility?
 

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To be fair, though, you left out rushing TDs. 6+ rushing TDs is pretty elite (about 2 or 3 per season), so let's add that:

Wilson 1 (brings him to 12 points)
Rodgers 0
Brady 0
Peyton 0
Favre 0
Marino 0
Cam 5 (brings him to 13 points!)
Mahomes 0
Lamar 2 (brings him to 9 points)

So Cam ends up with the edge.

Cam Newton? Really?

Maybe we need to combine passing and rushing yardage / TDs. I'll try that later.
I'm not going to look this up but, are you saying Brady never had at least 6 QB sneaks in a single season that resulted in a TD?
 

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I’m glad we can agree that you are way to into yourself

Well when you keep lying about me being Googler I need to get the facts straight, long time fan not a Googler.
 

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Wrong. You need to add SBs and MVPs and making the first team Pro Bowl and remove some other categories. Do you really think throwing for 60% completions is more telling of a QBs play than winning a SB or an MVP? The categories are not reflective of your final conclusion. Also add rushing yards to passing yards and call it total yards. You shouldn't get double the points for 4,000 passing yards and 400 rushing yards than you get for 5,000 passing yards.

Most importantly, these ranking systems in general are dumb and misleading. You don't get any more points for throwing 100 TDs than you do for throwing 30TDs and you get the same number of points for having a 60% comp rate as you do 30 TDs or 4,000 yards. You need to add up all of the stats for 9 years not compartmentalize them in this way. The flaws in using this and then saying for a 9 year period he was the best in such a cocksure way is off base. Maybe he was and maybe he wasn't, but this points system isn't proving anything :2cents:

I get the impression you are lazy, will prove it right now.

Go ahead have your ratings system do this your way let's see what happens. Now it is some tap dance BS but no system from you. No way ya take the time to put in the energy o do anything but criticize. A talker not a doer.

Ah....huge track meet in Monaco today, who wins the 100m?
 

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Wow!

Love it when people put in the time, that was great!!!!
It took some effort to find one of the greatest Super Bowl Chokes of all time.

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