The Goddam Bears

[LoftonPack80]

That I can agree on. I do find it funny that was the ONLY angle. Usually the have 2 or 3 different cameras

 

[JoeyTourettes]

Smart: Besides that, it was really just the three picks (I think the one on 4th down was also a pick, but we didn't challenge because it was over by that point, and we didn't want to add a QB INT. to the stat-line to gain five yards). Jay's gonna do that sometimes. I'm not gonna fret about it because he'll only do it 4 times per year. This team is capable of winning just about every game if he doesn't do that, including today.

What? The defense gives up 38 points- Zero sacks, zero pressures, forces ZERO punts, 79% completions, 4 TD passes, 300+ yards... and you blame it on Jay? No comment on the D? Just go straight to Jay, huh?

Placing blame...It's the Chicago Bears fan Way!

 

[Jim Rome is Flaming]

Then why aren't you a Cowboys fan like I am?

The Cowboys and Bears are pretty much the same team. Bears consistently fuck up their season against Green Bay, Cowboys fuck up their season against whomever they play in week 17.

 

[bgduece]

You sound confused, you saw the highlights on ESPN...the refs were terrible!!!!!!!!!!!

I watched this game and I thought most of the calls went against Green Bay. You sound like a sore loser.

 

[GNG]

The Cowboys and Bears are pretty much the same team. Bears consistently fuck up their season against Green Bay, Cowboys fuck up their season against whomever they play in week 17.

This sounds about right.

 

[wood20ks]

What? The defense gives up 38 points- Zero sacks, zero pressures, forces ZERO punts, 79% completions, 4 TD passes, 300+ yards... and you blame it on Jay? No comment on the D? Just go straight to Jay, huh?

Placing blame...It's the Chicago Bears fan Way!

The def threw 2 picks with a very possible 2 more............it was all def fault............i forgot.

 

[Dirk]

The def threw 2 picks with a very possible 2 more............it was all def fault............i forgot.

Yup, Cutler cost this team 14 points with 2 bad interceptions. thats 14, Can we figure out a way for you guys to blame him for the other 24 that were given up?

Hmm, maybe he told Bostic to hold on a FG try, there's a extra 4 for jay. Still 18 Jay, 20 D. Can't use the excuse they were tired from being right back out there, we never punted in the game. Much less the first half when they let the pack score all the points they needed.

Everyone sucked. Even if Cutler doesn't throw those picks and they stall out we still lose the damn game because the D refused to look like they belonged on the same field.

They all sucked ass. Maybe the RB's and Bennett get a pass, but other than that it was a load of shit all around.

 

[Tainthappening]

We outgained them by 150 yards. It's the little things that cost us today. The Cutler overthrow that cost four points was huge. Prior to that, we were all just trading touchdowns and we were the first to give in.

Pretty much how I viewed the game... neither team has a good defense. This may be the worst Packers rush defense I can ever recall.

If either team makes playoffs, do not expect either to go far.

Your OL mauled Packers DL all day... for all the Bears moves on the DL this year, it sure did not show today. I only recall Rodgers being hit once all day.

 

[PackManDan]

TERRIBLE officiating, pretty much cheese biased.
At the least it should have been 24 - 21 at the half, then I can toss out my complaints.
Too many phantom personal fouls which saved the 3rd drive for the Pwackers.
Then Jay and Bostic just gift wrapped the game for them.
That being said, Packers are still the better team, but it was fun seeing the Bears Offense make noodles out of their defense for 2.5 quarters.

It works both ways. The Packers had two TERRIBLE calls against them early on. One was when Peppers was rushing Cutler, the lineman clearly held Peppers as you can see on the replay yet the officials called the penalty on Peppers.

The second terrible call was when Cutler was running and went to slide and Shields was running after him and touched him down with both hands. One of his hands was on Cutler's helmet so the refs called roughing the passer or personal foul or something like that.

I can acknowledge that the Bears had some bad calls against them but then you should acknowledge that the Packers had bad calls against them as well. All in all, the bad calls evened both sides out. What I can't tolerate is seeing you be a homer and say that the refs were biased towards the Packers. Are you kidding me?

 

[PackManDan]

eat shit lofton, out of Mrguitars asshole

What a cry baby you are. Do any other Bears fans even like this guy??

 

[PackManDan]

whatever, children, I post Bear stuff with Bear fans, while y'all like to stick your shit encrusted asses in other forums because you have no life, no substance to with which to enjoy your teams success, it can only be enjoyed by piling on the losers chatroom. I have no desire to enter your shit filled team specific chatrooms, I enjoy my Bear comrades win or lose just fine.

Too bad they don't say the same about you. You aren't even liked by other Bears fans as referenced in another thread going on here in the Bears forum where a Bears fan told you to shut the fuck up and grow up.

First of all, this is a sports message board, where sports are talked about. The way you talk you make it seem like no one should go into any other team's section. Which is dumb. I came onto the Bears section early this week because naturally the Packers are playing the Bears and I wanted to discuss the game with Bears fans. It's only after I started having personal insults hurled my way for no other reason than I like the Packers that I started giving it back.

 

[Smart]

What? The defense gives up 38 points- Zero sacks, zero pressures, forces ZERO punts, 79% completions, 4 TD passes, 300+ yards... and you blame it on Jay? No comment on the D? Just go straight to Jay, huh?

Placing blame...It's the Chicago Bears fan Way!

What are you taking about? All I said was "the team is capable of winning just about every game if (Jay doesn't throw picks)." Nowhere did I say that Jay was at fault or somehow played worse than the defense. And that's because our offense is really damn good. Their only major flaw is turnovers. And yes, even with the defensive shitshow today, we moved the ball as well as Green Bay. If the offense plays mistake-free, which they will 10-12 times per year, they almost certainly will win.

I meant that as a way to be optimistic about this team, and if anything it was meant to be complimentary of Jay. You take the mistakes because the ceiling is so damn high.

 

[LoftonPack80]

What are you taking about? All I said was "the team is capable of winning just about every game if (Jay doesn't throw picks)." Nowhere did I say that Jay was at fault or somehow played worse than the defense. And that's because our offense is really damn good. Their only major flaw is turnovers. And yes, even with the defensive shitshow today, we moved the ball as well as Green Bay. If the offense plays mistake-free, which they will 10-12 times per year, they almost certainly will win.

I meant that as a way to be optimistic about this team, and if anything it was meant to be complimentary of Jay. You take the mistakes because the ceiling is so damn high.

Way to leave out the fact your defense sucks still

 

[bgduece]

You mean sucks like Michigan and the Brewers?

You are now 1-1 in the division, and have two losses in the conference...we beat you in the next game, it means nothing. That was out first loss in the conference...How long have you had Mel Tucker on the payroll?

Way to leave out the fact your defense sucks still

 

[anotheridiot]

It works both ways. The Packers had two TERRIBLE calls against them early on. One was when Peppers was rushing Cutler, the lineman clearly held Peppers as you can see on the replay yet the officials called the penalty on Peppers.

The second terrible call was when Cutler was running and went to slide and Shields was running after him and touched him down with both hands. One of his hands was on Cutler's helmet so the refs called roughing the passer or personal foul or something like that.

I can acknowledge that the Bears had some bad calls against them but then you should acknowledge that the Packers had bad calls against them as well. All in all, the bad calls evened both sides out. What I can't tolerate is seeing you be a homer and say that the refs were biased towards the Packers. Are you kidding me?

the second call was more of Shields knee hitting his helmet than the hands to the helmet. Not intentional at all. a driver that comes here is a huge green bay fan, I said it looked almost like Shields actually grabbed his helmet to make sure he didnt bump his head when he hit the ground. still got the call.

The mundy shoulder to shoulder hit in the end zone sucked. We finally get a safety to hit somebody, does it leagally and gets flagged. His job is to knock the ball loose so the reveiver cannot control to the ground.

I really think these refs were from the lingere league.

Both sides got screwed big time.

 

[Mondio]

I don't think either defense is as bad as they looked yesterday. you're not going to face Aaron Rodgers on fire every week and we don't have to face the 3 huge passing threats and Forte every game. I don't think either defense is anything to be particularly proud of, but they aren't as bad as yesterday looked either.

The refs did suck, both ways. I thought it was pretty even in the number actually for both sides. The bears saw benefit early, the packers later overall. I hate to notice officiating in a game. It's better when you don't even know they are there.

I think the Bear's strength is also it's weakness on offense. You have huge receiving targets that can pretty much catch anything and a qb that is willing to sling it anywhere at anytime. I think it lends itself to a qb who's known to be careless at times to be even more careless. The good news is your receivers come down with most of them, the bad is GB could have had 2 or 3 more INT's yesterday and not just 2 total. I think turnovers are always going to be an issue for you guys with him at QB.

That was the difference yesterday because if it wasn't for TO's the Packer Defense didn't stop anything all day.

I think both teams are going to win a lot of games this year, but unless some problems are fixed I don't see either going far. I think GB would have the best chance if Rodgers stays upright and on fire as I think he can overcome a bad defense. But a lot has to go right and it's a long season. I guess it's why I watch the games.

 

[toooverbearing]

I don't think either defense is as bad as they looked yesterday. you're not going to face Aaron Rodgers on fire every week and we don't have to face the 3 huge passing threats and Forte every game. I don't think either defense is anything to be particularly proud of, but they aren't as bad as yesterday looked either.

The refs did suck, both ways. I thought it was pretty even in the number actually for both sides. The bears saw benefit early, the packers later overall. I hate to notice officiating in a game. It's better when you don't even know they are there.

I think the Bear's strength is also it's weakness on offense. You have huge receiving targets that can pretty much catch anything and a qb that is willing to sling it anywhere at anytime. I think it lends itself to a qb who's known to be careless at times to be even more careless. The good news is your receivers come down with most of them, the bad is GB could have had 2 or 3 more INT's yesterday and not just 2 total. I think turnovers are always going to be an issue for you guys with him at QB.

That was the difference yesterday because if it wasn't for TO's the Packer Defense didn't stop anything all day.

I think both teams are going to win a lot of games this year, but unless some problems are fixed I don't see either going far. I think GB would have the best chance if Rodgers stays upright and on fire as I think he can overcome a bad defense. But a lot has to go right and it's a long season. I guess it's why I watch the games.

And we still don't know who has the better punter. Maybe after game 2 that will be settled.

 

[anotheridiot]

I don't think either defense is as bad as they looked yesterday. you're not going to face Aaron Rodgers on fire every week and we don't have to face the 3 huge passing threats and Forte every game. I don't think either defense is anything to be particularly proud of, but they aren't as bad as yesterday looked either.

The refs did suck, both ways. I thought it was pretty even in the number actually for both sides. The bears saw benefit early, the packers later overall. I hate to notice officiating in a game. It's better when you don't even know they are there.

I think the Bear's strength is also it's weakness on offense. You have huge receiving targets that can pretty much catch anything and a qb that is willing to sling it anywhere at anytime. I think it lends itself to a qb who's known to be careless at times to be even more careless. The good news is your receivers come down with most of them, the bad is GB could have had 2 or 3 more INT's yesterday and not just 2 total. I think turnovers are always going to be an issue for you guys with him at QB.

That was the difference yesterday because if it wasn't for TO's the Packer Defense didn't stop anything all day.

I think both teams are going to win a lot of games this year, but unless some problems are fixed I don't see either going far. I think GB would have the best chance if Rodgers stays upright and on fire as I think he can overcome a bad defense. But a lot has to go right and it's a long season. I guess it's why I watch the games.

Green Bay wanted to run the ball and the bears stopped Lacy. only giving up 56 yards. Yeah, 300 yards passing was not good, but 4 TD's and total domination you would have thought he threw for 500.

They gave up 358 to the packers
414 to the jets
359 to the 49 ers
360 to buffalo.

lol, this was their best statistical week this season.

 

[toooverbearing]

Green Bay wanted to run the ball and the bears stopped Lacy. only giving up 56 yards. Yeah, 300 yards passing was not good, but 4 TD's and total domination you would have thought he threw for 500.

They gave up 358 to the packers
414 to the jets
359 to the 49 ers
360 to buffalo.

lol, this was their best statistical week this season.

In fairness... when a team has seven possessions in a game, 5 end in TDs and 2 end in FG attempts, the yards really don't matter. The offense in that case got all but 55 possible yards available to them. They marched to the 35 before settling for the 53 yard field goal and they marched to the 20 before their blocked field goal attempt. So the better way to look at the yards given up to the Packers isn't "358", it is "358 out of a possible 413." That would be 87% of the possible yardage. I've never seen this stat before, but I'm sure if we ran this on our other games this season or even look at this stat historically, we wouldn't find too many games with a percentage that high.

If you want to look at it as our defense only giving up 358 yards... you would have to acknowledge our strongest defensive tactic was to play offense the way we did. Our own long drives is really the only thing that suppressed their offense.

 

[Tainthappening]

In fairness... when a team has seven possessions in a game, 5 end in TDs and 2 end in FG attempts, the yards really don't matter. The offense in that case got all but 55 possible yards available to them. They marched to the 35 before settling for the 53 yard field goal and they marched to the 20 before their blocked field goal attempt. So the better way to look at the yards given up to the Packers isn't "358", it is "358 out of a possible 413." That would be 87% of the possible yardage. I've never seen this stat before, but I'm sure if we ran this on our other games this season or even look at this stat historically, we wouldn't find too many games with a percentage that high.

If you want to look at it as our defense only giving up 358 yards... you would have to acknowledge our strongest defensive tactic was to play offense the way we did. Our own long drives is really the only thing that suppressed their offense.

Great post... that is an interesting way to interpret the stats. Packers have to be giving up large % in most of their games as well.