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[SlinkyRedfoot]

Best position player in baseball, I would't argue with.

You'd argue that a pitcher is above him?

 

[soxfan1468927]

Best position player in baseball, I would't argue with.

I'd still say he's the best overall player, even including pitchers, but I do think it is close between him and Kershaw.

 

[DHoey]

You'd argue that a pitcher is above him?

Yes. Clayton Kershaw, hands down is the best pitcher in baseball and has been for probably 6 years. I would put him above Trout.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Yes. Clayton Kershaw, hands down is the best pitcher in baseball and has been for probably 6 years. I would put him above Trout.

I consider myself a big Kershaw fan. I've had him in my keeper fantasy league since his first year in the minors, but if MLB rosters got wiped out and I could make the first pick for the Indians, I'd take Trout.

It'd be interesting to pose that question to all the MLB GMs and see what answers you'd get.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Yes. Clayton Kershaw, hands down is the best pitcher in baseball and has been for probably 6 years. I would put him above Trout.

That's weird. @Omar 382 told me that was Noah Syndergaard.

 

[DHoey]

I consider myself a big Kershaw fan. I've had him in my keeper fantasy league since his first year in the minors, but if MLB rosters got wiped out and I could make the first pick for the Indians, I'd take Trout.

It'd be interesting to pose that question to all the MLB GMs and see what answers you'd get.

That would be interesting. There is getting to me a few innings on Kershaw's arm, I guess that's the one downside to pitching in the Bigs at 20.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I consider myself a big Kershaw fan. I've had him in my keeper fantasy league since his first year in the minors, but if MLB rosters got wiped out and I could make the first pick for the Indians, I'd take Trout.

It'd be interesting to pose that question to all the MLB GMs and see what answers you'd get.

Yup, gimme the everyday contributing star, over the once every 5 games star, no matter how great

 

[soxfan1468927]

Yes. Clayton Kershaw, hands down is the best pitcher in baseball and has been for probably 6 years. I would put him above Trout.

You could say the exact same thing about Trout, but I think the difference between Trout and the next best position player is larger than the difference between Kershaw and the next best pitcher.

I'd say that Trout has been the best position player every single season, up until this year because he got hurt. For Kershaw, I don't believe that's the case.
2017: Scherzer has been better
2016: Would have been, but he got hurt
2015: I'd say he was the best
2014: Clearly the best
2013: Clearly the best
2012: I'd take Verlander
2011: Close between him, Halladay, and Verlander. I like Halladay there

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

I'd say that Trout has been the best position player every single season, up until this year because he got hurt.

2015?

 

[soxfan1468927]

2015?

Oh you're right, and when I first looked at it I meant to put 2015 as the only season he wasn't. Then I had to do some work and got distracted. Harper was better.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Jose Quintana traded to Cubs

 

[DHoey]

You could say the exact same thing about Trout, but I think the difference between Trout and the next best position player is larger than the difference between Kershaw and the next best pitcher.

I'd say that Trout has been the best position player every single season, up until this year because he got hurt. For Kershaw, I don't believe that's the case.
2017: Scherzer has been better
2016: Would have been, but he got hurt
2015: I'd say he was the best
2014: Clearly the best
2013: Clearly the best
2012: I'd take Verlander
2011: Close between him, Halladay, and Verlander. I like Halladay there

Who would you call the second best pitcher?

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Halladay

Boy, did that guy fall off the table or what? 2002-2011, ten straight years averaging 220 IP a season with a 2.97 ERA, puts up his two best seasons in '10 and '11 and then basically disappears. Barely reached 200 IP in the following two season with a 5.15 ERA.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Who would you call the second best pitcher?

Scherzer or Sale. Who would you say is the 2nd best position player?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Scherzer or Sale. Who would you say is the 2nd best position player?

Think Kluber is actually further than that^^^^ discussion than he should be

 

[soxfan1468927]

Boy, did that guy fall off the table or what? 2002-2011, ten straight years averaging 220 IP a season with a 2.97 ERA, puts up his two best seasons in '10 and '11 and then basically disappears. Barely reached 200 IP in the following two season with a 5.15 ERA.

Yeah he was a beast. First ballot HOFer I hope.

 

[DHoey]

Scherzer or Sale. Who would you say is the 2nd best position player?

If you line up Scherzer or Sale against Kershaw, there is a significant difference in ERA and WHIP.

For a position player, up until this year it was Miggy. I'll have to see how he finishes out the year. I like Goldschmidt a lot. Altuve is right there too.

 

[DHoey]

Yeah he was a beast. First ballot HOFer I hope.

Me too. A true workhorse for sure/

 

[soxfan1468927]

Think Kluber is actually further than that^^^^ discussion than he should be

I certainly think that right now Kluber is in the discussion. Since he didn't break out until 2014 I left him off.

 

[Omar 382]

That's weird. @Omar 382 told me that was Noah Syndergaard.

I said it was either of the two. Last May.

I'm not going to call you "triggered," because I wouldn't dare stoop to your level, but I will say you have quite the infatuation with one or two comments I made about Kershaw.

Do you secretly want to blow the guy? It's ok, I'm sure Kershaw swings that way. You shouldn't let Syndergaard being a great pitcher too stop you.